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I would say the likes of Lingard, Mata and James are more in the way of Amad getting minutes than Sancho will be. This is why myself and many other fans would have liked to have seen all three of them leave this summer, so minutes off the bench could be given to our future, not past it and limited players.

We should be loaning him out as Ole won't use him.
 

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If Messi signs for PSG this will screw up the Pogba move. We'll either bend over for Raiola and give Pogba a crazy contract or the whole season will be shadowed by it.
Forget Pogba. If Mbappe refuses to leave because they have Messi, Real will be in the race for Haaland next year.
 

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He'd still not be able to be registered as a player.
Surely they can make some dodgy but legal tactical play to keep him at the club?

Seems to me Barcelona value Messi more than the long term financial well being of the club. I can understand La Liga making a stand. They would rather have Barcelona and Madrid survive any financial meltdown than Messi playing for a few more years.
 

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I really like that outlook on squad building. If there are potential gems coming through in certain positions, I'd also be a little more hesitant in buying young talent for those positions.
 

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As per the article, I think Amad will stay until January, and as he won’t have much game time by then with so many names ahead of him, he’ll go on loan then.
 

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Top signing, he will prove to be one of the best CBs in the league when he settles.
I think even a couple of seasons ago there weren't many good to great centre backs in the league, so to have Maguire, Varane, Van Dijk, Dias, Laporte, John Stones, Fofana, Romero and Konate to name but a few, seems like real good business by a lot of clubs to be fair.
 

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even though it would make more sense if he went now and came back in January when the schedule gets busier
Yep. We have two choices in my opinion:

1. Trim the fat and move on the likes of Lingard, James, and make Mata just a senior figure around the club which will allow Amad/Elanga some rotational game time; or
2. Loan them out now. Just get them playing football.

Owing to the practicalities of number 1, I’d go for option 2. A lot of people say things like being “too good for a loan”, which I get, a bit, but when there’s so many names ahead of you, all you need is football on a field. Especially when the talent isn’t in question like Amad.
 

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Doesn't make sense, a Phil Jones style new contract, his renewal was a paycut (about 40% iirc) so Jesse's gonna stay and sign a pay cut?
No I don't think that's true at all, I'm pretty sure that Jones didn't take a 40% paycut over a longterm contract, but I stand to be corrected.
 

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The quotes from Luckhurst's article:
Anything from now is a bonus. I have to say that, with the two signings we’ve got, we’ve strengthened where we wanted to strengthen. Let’s see what happens. You never know in football. Anything can happen, ins and outs. Transfer-wise, we’ve done our business early. Raphael hasn’t done his medical yet but that should be okay. I’m very pleased with what we’ve done.

We need a big squad. The start is important, the whole season is important, but you need to arrive in April and May fresh and with enough options. Some might go on loan until Christmas, some might go for a season but I don’t want to be too light in any position.
EDIT: All of the quotes come from Rob Dawson's interview with Ole (added into a later post).
I'm not sure Amad is ready to be considered 'option'. In my opinion he falls in the 'needs nurturing' bracket, together with Elanga, Pellistri. Shoretire, Mejbri, Garner and Mengi pushing to get that 'status' too.
What I envision as the 'needs nurturing'? I think Greenwood was a perfect example of how a youngster should be integrated in the first team.
So what as front 'options'?
Wings: Rashford (out until Oct/Nov), James, Sancho, Lingard, Greenwood/Martial (I'd say one of the two, as the other one will be a ST back-up)
Strikers: Cavani, Greenwood/Martial
#10: Bruno, Donny, Lingard


Focusing on wingers: 5 players for 2 positions (4 until Rashford comes back), which is probably about right for a good squad depth. And there's just enough space for one youngster to get enough minutes (if everyone stays healthy).
With an eye on the end of the season, wishing that he has good depth, Ole could send one of the two (Amad, Elanga) out on loan until Christmas and it could work out well for them.

So I'm not sure the situation is as blue as the article suggests. Even though it's stated that Ole doesn't believe the arrival of Sancho blocks Amad's development, they still present it with a drama filter.

Again the suggestion is that Solskjaer does not feel Sancho's arrival will 'block the path' of Amad to progress into a regular starter, but it's hard to see how the 19-year-old will show significant growth if he's playing back-up for his first full season in English football.
 

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Abramovich’s Corporate MILF will get that one done. What a weird career path Lukaku has had this far. It’s up there with Anelkas.
 

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Abramovich’s Corporate MILF will get that one done. What a weird career path Lukaku has had this far. It’s up there with Anelkas.
She might be responsible for getting us the most transfer income this window as we don’t seem to be able to sell anyone
 

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City planning to drop £250m+ in a single summer on two players. PSG looking to add Messi (and a million quid a week in wages) to Neymar, Mbappe, Ramos, Hakimi, Donnarumma etc.

FFP is dead and buried.
 
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