KennyBurner
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City are backed by a whole country, there is no hoping anywhere.So I wonder where Pep learned the buy it all style of coaching hmmm. I hope city end up messed too just like Barca
City are backed by a whole country, there is no hoping anywhere.So I wonder where Pep learned the buy it all style of coaching hmmm. I hope city end up messed too just like Barca
It doesn’t really matter what he says it will always bring backlash as long as he works at City, PSG or Chelsea.I think what pisses me off the most isn't the hypocrisy, football's changed and all that and Pep was never going to stick to his political morals when bankrolled by a murderous oil-state. But why can't he accept that he's spending a shitton, stuff like this is just pathetic
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In summary....Fraudiola?It's misguided. The hatred is at the system and at the City fans who now at least need to accept their club is severely tainted.
Can't blame a manager who only has one way of working to say he's a Pep Guardiola is my idol. To him neither is true. He doesn't believe he's a fraud and he doesn't believe he's bald. And CAS agree with him.
He knows he's a chequebook fraud.Ped is so touchy about how much he spends. Are there any other managers that come out with net spend wanker stuff?
Then why is he always tinkering in the UCL Ko stages?If pep is fraud then all the managers other than him is worse than fraud. He spent yes but he delivered too.
He made his team dominant with the style of play. Mourinho spent a lot too but he afraid to lose so played negative football.
Even pep s team lost he never changed the style of play. Other than saf nobody dominated the league like he does.
3 league titles in five seasons is always impressive no matter he spent a lot or not.
He tried to dominate chelsea from the start. New ideas some time backfired.It's a game mate any thing could happen. That day Chelsea played better. But I don't think we had superior squad at that moment than city.Then why is he always tinkering in the UCL Ko stages?
None of the other managers are rated as the GOAT of all GOATs thoughIf pep is fraud then all the managers other than him is worse than fraud. He spent yes but he delivered too.
I think it's a challenge threw by city to other teams with current best manager in the world with huge money backing. It's upto other top teams to overcome this.None of the other managers are rated as the GOAT of all GOATs though
Good name. I never picked up on this, but it all starts to become apparent.Ped is so touchy about how much he spends. Are there any other managers that come out with net spend wanker stuff?
Funny how much of a free ride Chelsea get, these days.You'd be surprised
That's why they'll win the league fairly easily. It took Liverpool an unrepeatable run of largely using the same XI to bea them. To now add Grealish and probably Kane is just unfair.Have been trying to do a little test. I think if I had to pick City's first XI, it would be:
Ederson (35), Walker (45), Zinchenko (2), Laporte (57), Dias (62), Fernandinho (30), KDB (55), Foden (0), Grealish (100), Sterling (44), Jesus (27). So call it 457 or so on the first XI.
But then here's the kicker, check this second XI:
Steffen (7), Cancelo (60), Mendy (52), Stones (48), Aki (50), Rodri (68), Gundogan (20), Mahrez (60), Silva (43), Torres (18), a striker (0). That's 426 on their second XI.
I mean good lord. There's having depth and there's that.
Doesn't have be an underdog team. If he could take Utd to being back at the captain's table while having to deal with Chelsea's roubles and City's Dehrams (under another manager obviously) that would be laudable.I'd like to see Pep manage an underdog team for once. Be interesting to see if he can achieve something similar to what SAF/Mourinho achieved with Aberdeen/Porto.
United right now under Ole, while not as good as City, has improved. Do you actually think if Pep was managing this United team, he won't be doing much better than what Ole is doing right now?Doesn't have be an underdog team. If he could take Utd to being back at the captain's table while having to deal with Chelsea's roubles and City's Dehrams (under another manager obviously) that would be laudable.
Not here perhaps, but you’d still have non-United fans saying but he spent 800m to get them there!United right now under Ole, while not as good as City, has improved. Do you actually think if Pep was managing this United team, he won't be doing much better than what Ole is doing right now?
The money spent would be legitimate and he would be facing corrupt money clubs (Chelsea/City) in the same country instead of managing one of them. Then his true mettle would be judged.Not here perhaps, but you’d still have non-United fans saying but he spent 800m to get them there!
Klopp is better. Zidane isn't far off for what he has achieved so far.If pep is fraud then all the managers other than him is worse than fraud. He spent yes but he delivered too.
He made his team dominant with the style of play. Mourinho spent a lot too but he afraid to lose so played negative football.
Even pep s team lost he never changed the style of play. Other than saf nobody dominated the league like he does.
3 league titles in five seasons is always impressive no matter he spent a lot or not.
Klopp likes projects where there's no pressure to win (or get the team to play expansive football) immediately, projects where he's given atleast 2 or 3 years to win and when his team isn't considered favorite. Some can come to the conclusion that he maybe isn't great under pressure to deliver immediately.Klopp is better. Zidane isn't far off for what he has achieved so far.
I'm very curious as to what people think Pep would do worse than a Sean Dyche at Burnley for example. Is it player management? Is it tactics? Is hoof it la football beyond his comprehension? Is there a WhatsApp group of managers who think he can't get the best out of a Westwood and Barnes?It's a shame we haven't seen him manage a club with lesser resources yet. Maybe it will happen eventually - it would be interesting to see.
Well he certainly wouldn’t be winning the league with his fancy patterns of play now would he.I'm very curious as to what people think Pep would do worse than a Sean Dyche at Burnley for example. Is it player management? Is it tactics? Is hoof it la football beyond his comprehension? Is there a WhatsApp group of managers who think he can't get the best out of a Westwood and Barnes?
Anyway.
941 million pounds at one club in such a short time is just insane. Considering alot of players who made up the spine of his team were already there and de Bruyne, sterling and Foden, 3 of his most prominent attackers coming into this season were already there or cost nothing.
Add it to what he spent at bayern who have done better in CL since he left, and one CL final in over a decade is poor.
Its not small change though at a club who wins their league with eyes closed. One which won a CL not long before and not long after him.
It wasn't that outrageous at Bayern. It's probably the reason why he left, though.
I didn't say it was small change, but I'd say it was reasonable given the goals Bayern has every season (CL).Its not small change though at a club who wins their league with eyes closed. One which won a CL not long before and not long after him.
He's a great manager, when he has an unlimited budget
It'd be interesting to see what a guy rated as one of the best ever could do in that situation. How far could he take them etc. Not so much an assumption he'd be worse than Dyche or whoever.I'm very curious as to what people think Pep would do worse than a Sean Dyche at Burnley for example. Is it player management? Is it tactics? Is hoof it la football beyond his comprehension? Is there a WhatsApp group of managers who think he can't get the best out of a Westwood and Barnes?
Anyway.
Of course not. Would anyone win the league with Burnley? I think it's safe to say he would do a good jobWell he certainly wouldn’t be winning the league with his fancy patterns of play now would he.
Ah then yes that would be interesting to see for sure.It'd be interesting to see what a guy rated as one of the best ever could do in that situation. How far could he take them etc. Not so much an assumption he'd be worse than Dyche or whoever.
Is it? Has he ever worked wonders with below average players? That is the big question make over him.Of course not. Would anyone win the league with Burnley? I think it's safe to say he would do a good job.
YesIs it?
If it's that easy, why didn't other coaches get them to play his type of expansive football?It's easier to create an expansive and beautiful system when you've got 3-4 of the best players in a generation in your team (Barca), manage a historically dominant club who hoovers up the best players in the league, regardless of rivalry (Bayern) and been given a blank chequebook (Citeh).
That's not a knock on his managerial skill but he's been given advantages his whole managerial career that most other managers would have beeb lucky to have for even a couple of seasons.
I'm curious though, if he isn't a great coach, what do you think all the big clubs and football experts see in him that makes them rate him so highly?I didn't say it was small change, but I'd say it was reasonable given the goals Bayern has every season (CL).
I don't think he's a great manager with unlimited budget, either. He's accomplishing pretty little in comparison to the money he spends. His Euro per Title ratio must be atrocious.
It depends on the metric you're looking at, doesn't it? If you're a club owner and you're strictly looking at millions of Euros per CL win, there are others who are probably more successful. If you're looking at marketability, yeah sure he's good. He's decent on the camera, he can talk without sounding like a bricklayer and he's respectful to anyone. He's the perfect TV coach. But that's not why I would hire him. There's also his ability to develop players, I think that's the actual reason why people rate him so highly. He's very good at lifting players beyond the level they normally live at. In that his teams are a little bit overachieving. Maybe that makes him a good coach.I'm curious though, if he isn't a great coach, what do you think all the big clubs and football experts see in him that makes them rate him so highly?
I mean if he leaves City tomorrow, clubs will be lining up to get him, why do you think that is?
And why is that? I’m unsure what Pep has done to suggest he can work with anything but the best squad and the best players.Of course not. Would anyone win the league with Burnley? I think it's safe to say he would do a good job
I know he's not popular here and he's failed to move with the times, but i rate Mourinho's first 10 years as at least equal to Guardiola's. League and Champions League with Porto, took Chelsea from nowhere to multiple Premier League winners, League and Champions League with Inter, and then started well at Madrid before it all started to go South. He was also a bit of a chequebook manager but he did prove he could build teams from nothing and work with average players, something Guardiola is yet to do.If pep is fraud then all the managers other than him is worse than fraud. He spent yes but he delivered too.
He made his team dominant with the style of play. Mourinho spent a lot too but he afraid to lose so played negative football.
Even pep s team lost he never changed the style of play. Other than saf nobody dominated the league like he does.
3 league titles in five seasons is always impressive no matter he spent a lot or not.