pratyush_utd
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Is he the DM we are looking for?
I believe it is full deal. They get injured playing so I don't think they can reduce the salary duing recovery period. No player will accept that.How do salaries work when players are injured? Do they get a predetermined percentage or is it the full deal no matter what?
Quick Google tells you he's on somewhere around £70-75k a week.Look at the wages, no wonder we can't shift any of our deadwood and fringe players for good fees.
This. He is never on Bruno money.Quick Google tells you he's on somewhere around £70-75k a week.
This is wholly illogical. Get a new number, stay fit and produce on the pitch. If he believes that giving away his number is giving up his dream he is dumber than he looks and has the wrong mentality to be an elite player.Sure he´s dreaming of getting back on the pitch for United, and I see no reason to bash him for it, it being realistic or not. Giving away his shirt would be giving up that dream. I can understand him, in a way.
He was immense that night. People forget how highly rated he was.Is he the DM we are looking for?
To be fair why would Google know anymore than a journalist about how much a particular man utd player earns every week. Both are likely guesses.Quick Google tells you he's on somewhere around £70-75k a week.
I suspect if we have an injury crisis at centre back Shaw, McTominay & Matic would be called upon before Jones at this point.He's here now, and our 5th choice Centre Back with Bailly as 4th (injury prone). Let's all hope he stays fit and can be useful if called upon.
There is no one there in the academy, the next best thing might be Willy Kambwala who is 17 in a week but hasnt played in over a year.
Hopefully Jones can be sold next season, we all now it was a horrible decision by the club to extend his contract and "preserve his value" apart from those that wouldnt dare to question any decision the club/Ole makes.
Ole said he was dekighted to see Jones extend back in 2019, but when you are realistic, that doesnt necessarily mean he was involved and actually was.
Assuming the #4 thing are just rumours, and he does really think he can still have a career here, he deserves the full support of the fans for this season.
Honestly, I don't get statements like this. Phil Jones should have been sold 4/5 seasons ago and the fact he's still here on the wages he's on is honestly bewildering. I know some people use Fellaini as an example of how this club fell apart, but Phil Jones is a significantly better example of how inept the club has been run by Woodward. I don't have anything against Jones, but why is it close to 2022 and he's still a United player? I mean seriously, it's baffling.he deserves the full support of the fans for this season.
There was a a game against Bayern at their place as well. Gave Ribery nightmares.Is he the DM we are looking for?
You don't get statements like, 'he deserves the full support of the fans'? You think he deserves criticism? That's strange.Honestly, I don't get statements like this. Phil Jones should have been sold 4/5 seasons ago and the fact he's still here on the wages he's on is honestly bewildering. I know some people use Fellaini as an example of how this club fell apart, but Phil Jones is a significantly better example of how inept the club has been run by Woodward. I don't have anything against Jones, but why is it close to 2022 and he's still a United player? I mean seriously, it's baffling.
I don't think he deserves full support. He's done nothing in years, earns a horrendous wage for doing absolutely nothing. United is not a fecking charity.You don't get statements like, 'he deserves the full support of the fans'? You think he deserves criticism? That's strange.
Like I said. That's strange.I don't think he deserves full support. He's done nothing in years, earns a horrendous wage for doing absolutely nothing. United is not a fecking charity.
Hope he’s fit and ready to go because I don’t think Bailly will hang around once he realises he’s 4th choice
Guess who's back
Strange attitude to a player with an injuryI don't think he deserves full support. He's done nothing in years, earns a horrendous wage for doing absolutely nothing. United is not a fecking charity.
This is such a ludicrous statement that I honestly think you must be on a wind up. Take your frustrations out on the club, not the player. All players at the club deserve our full support.I don't think he deserves full support. He's done nothing in years, earns a horrendous wage for doing absolutely nothing. United is not a fecking charity.
Let's live in a mental world where he stays fit for the year and trains well.Hope he’s fit and ready to go because I don’t think Bailly will hang around once he realises he’s 4th choice
Let's be clear, it's an awful attitude.Strange attitude to a player with an injury
He's not been injured for 4/5 years on the trot GB. He's had plenty of chances to ask to leave United to attempt to get first team football elsewhere. There's been numerous examples of our players leaving United and finding issues with their bodies with a different medical team. He's done nothing at United in years, giving him a new contract was just phenomenally stupid.Strange attitude to a player with an injury
Maybe, we will see I think. Preferably not Shaw/Matic, maybe Scott and then play Matic in midfield.I suspect if we have an injury crisis at centre back Shaw, McTominay & Matic would be called upon before Jones at this point.
I mainly agree with you, but support Jones and direct that to the club (board, potentially Ole).Honestly, I don't get statements like this. Phil Jones should have been sold 4/5 seasons ago and the fact he's still here on the wages he's on is honestly bewildering. I know some people use Fellaini as an example of how this club fell apart, but Phil Jones is a significantly better example of how inept the club has been run by Woodward. I don't have anything against Jones, but why is it close to 2022 and he's still a United player? I mean seriously, it's baffling.
What was his injury this time? Do we ever even know anymore with Phil?Strange attitude to a player with an injury
This is about as silly as expecting players to just give up the remainder of their contracts for the greater good, eg Micah Richards at Villa.He's not been injured for 4/5 years on the trot GB. He's had plenty of chances to ask to leave United to attempt to get first team football elsewhere. There's been numerous examples of our players leaving United and finding issues with their bodies with a different medical team. He's done nothing at United in years, giving him a new contract was just phenomenally stupid.
Call me harsh, call me a cnut, but personally, players should earn respect and support. As for his current injury, I don't think we had any update on that in months? It was a mystery.
You'll never get full support though. In an ideal world everyone in the stands would hold hands and throw roses at our players every minute. But we all get pissed off at our players being dumb or doing dumb shit. Some have irrational hatred towards Pogba, some can't stand Lingard etc etc.I mainly agree with you, but support Jones and direct that to the club (board, potentially Ole).
Jones hasnt really done anything wrong. I would find it very annoying and ridiculous if he did decline to give the number to Varane but even that, he's entitled to say no.
Well it wouldn't be in a journalists interest to sensationally overstate what he's earning at all would it?To be fair why would Google know anymore than a journalist about how much a particular man utd player earns every week. Both are likely guesses.
Do you think Bailly still doesn’t realise that?Hope he’s fit and ready to go because I don’t think Bailly will hang around once he realises he’s 4th choice
He was always talented, better CB than Smalling. Injuries ruined him. If he had 2-3 seasons as a starter fit, he would have kicked on to the next level and be one of the best CBs in the league. But his body/playstyle never allowed him that. You cannot improve if you cant stay fit for 2 months.He was immense that night. People forget how highly rated he was.
Why do we need to support Jones? He doesn’t belong here on merit, he is a very average player even if fully fit (which in itself is unimaginable) and continues to receive his high wages for nothing for many a year already.I mainly agree with you, but support Jones and direct that to the club (board, potentially Ole).
One day you´ll injure yourself at work in a way that makes your unable to work for a while. Then I hope you´re man enough not to expect any support. I mean, your work place is not a fecking charity, is it.I don't think he deserves full support. He's done nothing in years, earns a horrendous wage for doing absolutely nothing. United is not a fecking charity.