KennyBurner
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Westham the feck are you waiting for?
I bet you they will bid at the very end with about 15m to get a cheap deal.Westham the feck are you waiting for?
They can do as we’re doing and structure the payments over his contract.Around 20 million would be perfect for him. Come on west ham, you know you need him
Well if this isn’t motivation for United then I don’t know what is.Can already see where this is going.
He'll end up staying with us beyond the close of the summer transfer window and we'll give him a new bumper 5-year deal.
If he actually gets sold, it will actually restore some of my respect for Ole and the club.
I know, right?Well if this isn’t motivation for United then I don’t know what is.
We aren’t exactly in the drivers seat. He has less than a year left on his contract and we don’t have a place for him in the team. It would help if we get his wage off the books plus bring in a transfer fee of around £15m.Tweet
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The nerve of this lot wanting him for peanuts after earning them European football as they ask for 100m for Rice...
Dithering Dave innit.Westham the feck are you waiting for?
You're implying Lingard would be worth more if he wasn't on the last year of his contract? Christ!25 million quid for JLingz on last year of his contract is value for money.
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The nerve of this lot wanting him for peanuts after earning them European football as they ask for 100m for Rice...
Neither are West Ham. Who's to say he'd sign for them when he becomes a free agent? West Ham aren't Real Madrid, I'm sure there'll be plenty of suitors both home and abroad who'd be interested in him, some likely more prestigious than West Ham.We aren’t exactly in the drivers seat. He has less than a year left on his contract and we don’t have a place for him in the team. It would help if we get his wage off the books plus bring in a transfer fee of around £15m.
Typical utd over pricing players we want to get rid if. £15mil sounds fair for lingaard.We aren’t exactly in the drivers seat. He has less than a year left on his contract and we don’t have a place for him in the team. It would help if we get his wage off the books plus bring in a transfer fee of around £15m.
if anything we've been letting them go for peanuts over the years.Typical utd over pricing players we want to get rid if. £15mil sounds fair for lingaard.
agreed, we always let players go cheap whether it comes to selling or sending htem on loansif anything we've been letting them go for peanuts over the years.
£15million is no where near enough for an English, premier league proven, England capped player who was integral to West Ham's form in the latter half of last season. West Ham just need to stop being desperately cheap and cough up or shut up. If they value Declan feckin Rice at £100million, then the club are well within their rights to ask for £25million for Lingard.
At this stage anything around £10-15m would be good business.Typical utd over pricing players we want to get rid if. £15mil sounds fair for lingaard.
People keep saying that but we signed same-aged Varane, who was also on the last year of his contract, for around £34m. In that light £25m does sound like a lot.25 million quid for JLingz on last year of his contract is value for money.
And he will bid higher than the asking price in the end (remember Fellaini)!!Let’s not forget Moyes is their manager. It’ll probably be a deadline day deal if nobody else comes in before then.
Fingers crossed.And he will bid higher than the asking price in the end (remember Fellaini)!!
No it wouldn't.At this stage anything around £10-15m would be good business.
Attackers are more expensive, English tax, he already had a stint there so minimum bedding in.People keep saying that but we signed same-aged Varane, who was also on the last year of his contract, for around £34m. In that light £25m does sound like a lot.
One of them is considered one of the top 5-6 CBs on the planet. A WC winner, 3x CL winner and 3xLa Liga winner. The other one is a #10 who's had 6 good months last season and 1 good year under Mourinho in 17/18, while the rest of his career he's been a mediocre bench player at best.
Personally I would lower demands and accept something in the region of £15-20m for him. You also save another £5m on top, on his salaries (he is on £100k). We couldn't even make minutes for VDB last season and we've also signed Sancho, so how much time will Lingard get anyway? Because if he's kept to play only 1000-1500 mins through the season, we're talking a million for every hour of football. Surely we're better saving that and putting it towards another transfer.
What you mentioned are all true, except the fact that as of now West Ham is unwilling to pay for it. It will drag on till the last day of the transfer window.Attackers are more expensive, English tax, he already had a stint there so minimum bedding in.
All in all, in a market where Aaron Ramsdale can go for 24m, Ben White 50m and Tammy Abraham went for 40m, asking for 25m for Lingard isn’t unreasonable. I think we should be flexible though and ask for sth like 20m upfront and 5-6m addons tied to easily achievable goals like appearances.
* Fixed Abraham's priceAttackers are more expensive, English tax, he already had a stint there so minimum bedding in.
All in all, in a market where Aaron Ramsdale can go for 24m, Ben White 50m and Tammy Abraham went for40m34m, asking for 25m for Lingard isn’t unreasonable. I think we should be flexible though and ask for sth like 20m upfront and 5-6m addons tied to easily achievable goals like appearances.
Joe Willock also went for 25m after a similar loan stint/performance like Lingard, and he has achieved far less in the game.* Fixed Abraham's price
Those are three 23 year olds, with upside potential, who aren't on the last year of their contracts. The first two are also moved "up" (implied higher fees than when heading in the opposite direction). Those don't apply to Lingard who's 28, on his final year and about to move "down". The Varane comparison was far more apt imo.
Well there is ultimately only one "objective" measure of player's value - the actual price that someone pays for him. I am sure that we would use arguments similar to yours in the negotiations - but at the moment it does not seem like there is a bidding war for him.No it wouldn't.
I know Lingard has become a meme here that everyone wants to get rid of, but he's objectively worth a lot more than £15million in this day and age, even with a year left on his contract. We shouldn't just accept any bid they throw at us.
I'm assuming a lot here want to see him gone for the quoted small amounts because it helps us buy a midfielder - what makes you think £10-15million gets us Camavinga or Neves? As for getting him off the wage bill - he'll be gone next summer anyway, the club isn't going to be dramatically better off financially, nor will it help us prepare a package for someone like Cristiano Ronaldo this summer just because we managed to get Lingard off the books.
Another 21yo with upside potential though. You could sell Joe Willock in 5 years and get that money back, or a lot more if he turns good.Joe Willock also went for 25m after a similar loan stint/performance like Lingard, and he has achieved far less in the game.
I think it will work out by the end. The two clubs are negotiating, the player wants to move, if we have to structure the payment plans into more installments or add ons, we will do it. There’s no sense however in ceding our ground too early, when it’s the buying club who will be under more and more pressure as the window ends.
Apples and orangesJoe Willock also went for 25m after a similar loan stint/performance like Lingard, and he has achieved far less in the game.
I think it will work out by the end. The two clubs are negotiating, the player wants to move, if we have to structure the payment plans into more installments or add ons, we will do it. There’s no sense however in ceding our ground too early, when it’s the buying club who will be under more and more pressure as the window ends.
It’s really not though .If West Ham insist on 18 million or less than 20 million pounds, then we'll bundle PJ4 along.
25 million quid for JLingz on last year of his contract is value for money.