Says the one calling people names...
Why the heck #OLEOUT is trending again?
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Umm, Fred as the deepest CM is a disaster waiting to happen. One of the CMs has to stay in front of the defence and shield them. Fred's biggest strength is his energy and the ground he manages to cover. Positional discipline/ reading the game/ decision making which are essential for someone playing the lone DM role (which he would have to should VDB or Pog play to get their best) aren't something you'd associate Fred with.
Gonna repeat this 15 more times this season arent you?
It's certainly not a name, just factual. And rich coming from you. If one side are bad, the other are just as fecking insufferable.
This.
Is not overreacting over one game, is the reaction of being feed up with almost three seasons now of inconsistency and the same coaching weaknesses that haven't/can't be corrected under the current coaching team.
Apart from the time we beat Red Bull 5-0? In fairness it was nearly 10 months ago.
Oh and beating Pep 3 out of the last 4 games in the league, other than that you're correct it never happens.
Quality control
PE Teacher at best in terms of coaching and tactical awareness.
Nothing can be worse then Matic. The guy is finished
He's had the time to build now he has to show results. That's reality.
If we spend another season going a goal or two down to the likes of Southampton then it's going to be a shit season, and he shouldn't be getting another chance after it.
If we spend another season going a goal or two down to the likes of Southampton then it's going to be a shit season, and he shouldn't be getting another chance after it.
Yes, but one of which - a game we should be winning easily - we have already dropped 2 points. And these days you can’t afford to drop many of them if you want to win the title.
feck, that’s rough
Probably because many have seen this script with us dropping points many times since he took charge
Things will settle down. Spurred on by the excitement of a big transfer window for the club, there's just a mismatch between expectations and actual quality at the moment.
This afternoon was not the performance or the result of a title challenger, but it is commonplace for a top 4 side to drop points in this manner.
By October/November, we'll be nestled comfortably into that zone between 3rd and 5th and people will have adopted a more moderate outlook underpinned by rather more realistic expectations.
If we've "nestled" into not looking like title contenders by November then the pressure on Solskjaer will be insane. Whether posters on Redcafe want to accept it or not, those are the expectations he is going to be held to this season by the broader football-watching public and media.
Personally, if we are nestled comfortably in that zone at the end of the season, he needs to go.
People really need to get a grip, yes everyone is upset as we didn't win and the performance wasn't good but its our second game, we are already better off than last season so its not the end of the world.
Ouch
Shit selections, shit response to the game and poor game management again. Ole needs to shoulder part of the blame for this poor result.
We deserved feck all. How many shots we had today?
Sorry, but that was no smash and grab. Last 15 minutes they looked more like scoring than we did.
Every team plays defensive midfielders/passing midfielders. Jorginho and Kante, Xavi and Busquets, Casemeiro and Kroos, Fernandinho. I can't think of a single top team in the last 10 years that hasn't had at least one non-attacking midfielder.
Simply because once again we lack an identity, shape and showed a lack of ability to change in game time.
Also why do we play a new signing out of position when we've be crying out for an out and out right winger for years.
Varane does not change the sucess of the club when fully integrated with us playing a two man holding midfielders.
So much for Oles vision to play one out and out defensive midfielder.
Also why do we play a new signing out of position when we've be crying out for an out and out right winger for years.
Varane does not change the sucess of the club when fully integrated with us playing a two man holding midfielders.
So much for Oles vision to play one out and out defensive midfielder.
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Do we need to play both Fred and Matic though?
By the media, maybe. But if you believe:
a) United are going to challenge for the title this season
and
b) Ole will be sacked if we fail to challenge for the title this season
... then you are just setting yourself up for disappointment on two fronts.
It will be game 2 of the 2025 season, still no major trophy , screaming we are only 2 games in
This is more or less accurate.
I find it stunning that some of our supporters look at that team today and genuinely seem to expect it to win the title.
Ole out is trending because people want a world class manager like Poch.....
"We have improved from 2018".
Thats why we will never win anything with Ole in charge. He thinks he is the 2nd Fergie, when really they are polar opposites.
If Ole does not take this team where it aims to be, then United should do him the same thing that Chelsea did to an oud-of-his-depth Frank Lampard. Seriously, just feck sentimentality.
No they didnt. They could have beaten us today.
So the head to head is 1 win each…What?We thrashed them 5-0 in Germany! It could easily have been more. It was a total dismantling of Nagelsmann's approach which made him look like a kid playing at being a manager. And sure, they came back and beat us 3-2 here, which was a major feck-up. But even on balance that's a 7-3 aggregate scoreline.
Its hypocritical to moan at others for wanting Ole out after 3 years worth of games, and you’re basing your assessment of Nagelsmann on just 2 games.
We have to be challenging with this squad.
How can it not?
Sancho wasn't starting, nor varane, rashford and cavani not even on the bench.
We the fans think we need a midfielder but ole doesn't seem to think so.
Do we think the 433 thing was all hot air?
Yep.
Because the midfield is full of bang average players.
I think Ole wants a midfielder desperately. He’s already made comments in the media which indicate he’d like more signings.
I'll not be convinced until he buys at least one.