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abailey123

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He’s the first name on the team sheet at the minute.
This kid is generational and what a player to learn off than Ronaldo.
He’s just as good on his left as he is with his right. Scary he’s not even 20 yet!
He’s going to go to extraordinary heights.
 

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The run for that first chance was really good, he is definitely a starter until both Rashford and Sancho find their top form at the very least.
He's already a more effective player than Rashford top form or not. He should be in our starting eleven regardless.
 

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Has looked the best of the front three all season and is fast making himself undroppable. I've seen very, very few players as accurate as him in his finishing. Has come on leaps and bounds since he broke through - his potential is sky high.
 

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I'm a little confused as to what we should do with him at this stage of his development.

As a central striker he doesn't hold the ball well enough.
As a wide player he doesn't stretch the play or provide much of a threat down the flank.

He's not yet at the stage to make either position his own, but he's so good at coming in from the side and shooting that he needs to be somewhere on the pitch. He would probably be best as some type of supporting striker/false 9 at the moment.
 

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I'm a little confused as to what we should do with him at this stage of his development.

As a central striker he doesn't hold the ball well enough.
As a wide player he doesn't stretch the play or provide much of a threat down the flank.

He's not yet at the stage to make either position his own, but he's so good at coming in from the side and shooting that he needs to be somewhere on the pitch. He would probably be best as some type of supporting striker/false 9 at the moment.
Probably, and at times we play Bruno essentially in that role higher up the pitch.
 

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He's already a more effective player than Rashford top form or not. He should be in our starting eleven regardless.
I disagree. But he's in great form, shoukd really kick on this season. Imagine if he got a good amount of chances every match.
 

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He needs to play every game, I fancy him to score every time he has the ball at his feet inside the box. He’s fast and quickly can create a yard of space to get a shot away, on either foot. Must be an absolute nightmare to defend against.
 

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That touch on the left wing to get away from their fullback that almost lead to a very good chance if Cavani had reached the low cross was pure sex.
 

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I'm a little confused as to what we should do with him at this stage of his development.

As a central striker he doesn't hold the ball well enough.
As a wide player he doesn't stretch the play or provide much of a threat down the flank.

He's not yet at the stage to make either position his own, but he's so good at coming in from the side and shooting that he needs to be somewhere on the pitch. He would probably be best as some type of supporting striker/false 9 at the moment.
I think we have options now which is great. We need him receiving the ball close to the edge of the box like he did for today's goal. That way he can shift to either foot and either drill it as a shot or if double teamed you know a man will be free and that's where Cavani and Ronaldo will help with their movement (and if awb can exploit the space and provide overlapping runs)
 

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I wonder what he’s done to offend Southgate? No sane person could think Bamford is more worthy of a place in the England squad
I hope he had genuinely told him to feck off. He stayed home for the Euros and he's better for it. Clever move.

More of it please.
 

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I think he’s been brilliant for a while now. Had a strong finish to last season and has started this season really well.

He’s a great finisher and such a lovely, clean striker of the ball. That would have been a sensational goal in the first half but for a fingertip save from the keeper.

Really excited about him
 

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I think having a proper pre-season helped him massively when you compare it to last season when he was snaked by Gareth Southgate as well as the loss of one of his friends.
 

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I'm a little confused as to what we should do with him at this stage of his development.

As a central striker he doesn't hold the ball well enough.
As a wide player he doesn't stretch the play or provide much of a threat down the flank.

He's not yet at the stage to make either position his own, but he's so good at coming in from the side and shooting that he needs to be somewhere on the pitch. He would probably be best as some type of supporting striker/false 9 at the moment.
He’s also pretty poor at tracking back when he plays wide. Opposition teams seem to consistently get the most joy down whatever flank he plays on. So it is a bit of a conundrum.
 

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I'm more excited about him than anyone else at the club. He seems to be falling under the radar quite a bit too from what I've seen. Which definitely isn't a bad thing.
 

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Sancho is going to be riding a lot of bench, specially if yesterday's performance is anything to go by. Rashford will eventually be back and I cannot see him sitting out. Ronaldo is dead certain to always start when fit. Greenwood is special, anyone can see it. That would leave out Cavani, Martial and Sancho.
 

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He’s also pretty poor at tracking back when he plays wide. Opposition teams seem to consistently get the most joy down whatever flank he plays on. So it is a bit of a conundrum.
All our wide players should improve their work rate, at least the ones who will be staying at club.

This table shows how poor our young players are when it comes to work rate.

PositionPressuresPercentile
JamesWinger
21.59​
94​
BrunoAttacking mid
21.46​
93​
LingardWinger
21.14​
90​
CavaniForward
15.44​
64​
GreenwoodWinger
12.78​
22​
MartialForward
10.39​
12​
RashfordWinger
11.06​
10​
SanchoWinger
10.76​
8​
RonaldoForward
6.69​
1​
 

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How many goals does he have in total for United? I tried to use transfermarkt but not sure if they’re right. By my calculations, he has 33.

Rooney ended with 253, right? It’s not out of the realm of possibility he could reach that
 

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How many goals does he have in total for United? I tried to use transfermarkt but not sure if they’re right. By my calculations, he has 33.

Rooney ended with 253, right? It’s not out of the realm of possibility he could reach that
Greenwood would need 30 goals in all comps this season to match what Rooney scored in his first 3 seasons at United.
Rooney: 17,19,23 goals
Mason: 17,12 and 3 so far

If he stays fit and doesn't leave then he should definitely be close to Rooneys record, bearing in mind theres a high chance Mason becomes a pure number 9 then he will probably smash that record.
 

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All our wide players should improve their work rate, at least the ones who will be staying at club.

This table shows how poor our young players are when it comes to work rate.

PositionPressuresPercentile
JamesWinger
21.59​
94​
BrunoAttacking mid
21.46​
93​
LingardWinger
21.14​
90​
CavaniForward
15.44​
64​
GreenwoodWinger
12.78​
22​
MartialForward
10.39​
12​
RashfordWinger
11.06​
10​
SanchoWinger
10.76​
8​
RonaldoForward
6.69​
1​
Feck me. No wonder Fred has to cover so much ground every game. Don’t think there’s a DM in the game who could compensate for playing two wide players who are that much worse than all their peers at helping the defence.

Those stats also show why James gets so many games. One winger who doesn’t defend can be carried but not two at once.
 

acnumber9

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All our wide players should improve their work rate, at least the ones who will be staying at club.

This table shows how poor our young players are when it comes to work rate.

PositionPressuresPercentile
JamesWinger
21.59​
94​
BrunoAttacking mid
21.46​
93​
LingardWinger
21.14​
90​
CavaniForward
15.44​
64​
GreenwoodWinger
12.78​
22​
MartialForward
10.39​
12​
RashfordWinger
11.06​
10​
SanchoWinger
10.76​
8​
RonaldoForward
6.69​
1​
How does Martial end up in a higher percentile with a lower number than Rashford or Sancho?
 

RuudTom83

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Maybe it’s no surprise he is looking sharper than the rest after having a summer off.

It’s one reason I’m somewhat happy for Rashford to be out for a while, it’s important to rest and recover your mind and not just your muscles.
 

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Feck me. No wonder Fred has to cover so much ground every game. Don’t think there’s a DM in the game who could compensate for playing two wide players who are that much worse than all their peers at helping the defence.

Those stats also show why James gets so many games. One winger who doesn’t defend can be carried but not two at once.
Yeah, we are poor defensively as a team. We have done well in the last 2 seasons when it comes to league finish but when you compare our team to other good teams, you see how much we are lacking. Team play should be up there as our biggest concern
 

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what I like about him is that he doesn't have vanity about his goals.

He's not trying to lob it when its not on, no 'failed' curlers when its more effective for him to just pump it straight through low and hard on goal.
Yes, and very accurate with his shooting.
 

NotQuiteManc

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Greenwood has very little skillset that makes him compatible with a #9 role at the moment. Being a good finisher =/= good #9.

Back to goal, holding ball up, winning headers, being alive when the ball is in the box... he does none of these things well. His good attributes are linking up, dribbling and shooting. He is clearly more lethal from the wing running at players than being at #9 and spending most of his time with his back to the goal.

I don't understand this obsession people have with him getting minutes in the #9 role. It's not like playing as an inverted forward is stifling his development. Many world class forwards played on the wing for much longer than Greenwood with no problems. RVP was playing as a winger at Arsenal till age 23-24. Same for Thierry Henry.
Don't forget Benzema started at LW position too at Lyon. I think some players just need to play other positions to improve certain aspects of their game before moving to the "main" position. Same goes for Greenwood and as you have mentioned, he lacks some of the key skills to be a proper 9, but I don't doubt he will make it especially now United have two of the best strikers out there.
 

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All our wide players should improve their work rate, at least the ones who will be staying at club.

This table shows how poor our young players are when it comes to work rate.

PositionPressuresPercentile
JamesWinger
21.59​
94​
BrunoAttacking mid
21.46​
93​
LingardWinger
21.14​
90​
CavaniForward
15.44​
64​
GreenwoodWinger
12.78​
22​
MartialForward
10.39​
12​
RashfordWinger
11.06​
10​
SanchoWinger
10.76​
8​
RonaldoForward
6.69​
1​
If we're going to line up Ronaldo, Bruno, Rashford/Sancho and Greenwood, there's no chance we're doing it with Pogba in midfield that's for sure. Midfielders in that team will have a lot to do.
 

Trequarista10

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All our wide players should improve their work rate, at least the ones who will be staying at club.

This table shows how poor our young players are when it comes to work rate.

PositionPressuresPercentile
JamesWinger
21.59​
94​
BrunoAttacking mid
21.46​
93​
LingardWinger
21.14​
90​
CavaniForward
15.44​
64​
GreenwoodWinger
12.78​
22​
MartialForward
10.39​
12​
RashfordWinger
11.06​
10​
SanchoWinger
10.76​
8​
RonaldoForward
6.69​
1​
I'm interested by the percentile stat. Which positions are included in this? Is it only forward players or does it include midfielders and defenders?
 

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The best bit about Greenwood is not even his generational talent.

It's he will retire at Old Trafford. That is just pure sex.

Enjoy lads. Enjoy.

Incredible he always, more often than not, he hits the target.
 

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Someone was saying he doesnt finish with his right foot anymore and that his finishing has regressed. Okay.
 

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Not a bad pedigree to have and be introduced to at this stage of his young career
 

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I'm a little confused as to what we should do with him at this stage of his development.

As a central striker he doesn't hold the ball well enough.
As a wide player he doesn't stretch the play or provide much of a threat down the flank.

He's not yet at the stage to make either position his own, but he's so good at coming in from the side and shooting that he needs to be somewhere on the pitch. He would probably be best as some type of supporting striker/false 9 at the moment.
Only if our aim to play that way where that's our CF's job, I really hope it's not.

I think Greenwood's future should be more as a central striker who pulls wide, a bit like Henry would do, and attacks the CB/FB channels or drops in to receive the ball on the turn. This, in my mind, makes sense given how advanced Bruno usually plays anyway & plays to Greenwood's strengths which are standing up a defender before getting a shot off/shooting after coming in from either side.

Problem now is Ronaldo has to start as a 9 given his age so will Greenwood be his sub or will he go RW and move Sancho to the LW....feel like Greenwood should start as 9 until he has a bad game as he should be our priority.
 
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