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WI_Red

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I am glad you think of me when you see US Nats :)

All I can say about this is what a waste of talent. As a youth Nat I thought EPB was star in the making either as a CB or as a 6. So smooth and great on the ball. Then he went to City and it all went tits up. Year after year of loans. Feel the same about Miazga going to Chelsea (much lower ceiling) and Steffen. Stop doing this!

Anyways, good move I guess?
 

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People don’t realise we’ve been saying “we’ll be complete next season” since SAF retired. It’s a never ending process. It’s obscene.
Exactly, its incredible so many people on here dont realise it
 

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Paying Sancho off over 5 years, Varane over 4 and Ronaldo over 5.

£14.6m for Sancho
£11m for Varane
£4m for Ronaldo
£29.6m total

£28.2m for James

Fair enough it's not profit but net spend of -£1/2m isn't great.
Are you keeping a note to add those to next 5 year's 'spend'? It could get messy.
 

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I am glad you think of me when you see US Nats :)

All I can say about this is what a waste of talent. As a youth Nat I thought EPB was star in the making either as a CB or as a 6. So smooth and great on the ball. Then he went to City and it all went tits up. Year after year of loans. Feel the same about Miazga going to Chelsea (much lower ceiling) and Steffen. Stop doing this!

Anyways, good move I guess?
You offer a good amount of insight on the U.S. players, so I'm happy to keep tagging you in them.

In a way, I feel like these players get weeded out by the massive amount of competition in those kind of clubs. Both Chelsea and City have a bunch of other talented players in their squad, so it's not like Steffen, EPB, and Miazga can get more attention to further improve their game. It sucks for the U.S. national team, but they've made their choices.
 

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Barça trying to close De Jong transfer
He's an interesting option for Barcelona. He's not necessarily a bad player, and I guess he can offer more depth, but he'll be such an underwhelming signing. He also does well when he has crosses played to him, so maybe this indicates a signing to offer more tactical flexibility.
 

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Rice is a more 'United' signing in midfield than any of the others you've been linked with this window.
Rice was definitely the player Ole wanted as his DM.

West Ham over valued Rice and we over valued Lingard.

There's always January/Summer. Glad we didn't get Saul as he's not a DM and not what we need and we didn't just get anyone just to appease the fans. We want players to help fill holes and not to become a squad number.
 

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Rice was definitely the player Ole wanted as his DM.

West Ham over valued Rice and we over valued Lingard.

There's always January/Summer. Glad we didn't get Saul as he's not a DM and not what we need and we didn't just get anyone just to appease the fans. We want players to help fill holes and not to become a squad number.
Ole is stupid if he thinks he'll get Rice in Jan or the Summer, or ever for that matter.
 

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Are all these bellends talking about installments forgetting all the previous purchases that will be going out as cash this summer?

Some incredible misinformed views of cash vs profit.
 

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He's an interesting option for Barcelona. He's not necessarily a bad player, and I guess he can offer more depth, but he'll be such an underwhelming signing. He also does well when he has crosses played to him, so maybe this indicates a signing to offer more tactical flexibility.
He is nowhere near Barcelona level but if they need someone coming off the bench when they lump the ball in the box he probably is not a bad choice.

Using a Fellaini-esque tactic will work with him but that is totally not the Barcelona way of playing. So kind of surprising they want him.
 
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You're quite right I will :)
Exactly. Because that’s all you do, make up anything in your head and present it as facts just to bring the club down. After the window we have had, even if it isn’t a perfect window to you, it sure is a good one. Maybe the midfielder we are craving will come from the academy.
 

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Paying Sancho off over 5 years, Varane over 4 and Ronaldo over 5.

£14.6m for Sancho
£11m for Varane
£4m for Ronaldo
£29.6m total

£28.2m for James

Fair enough it's not profit but net spend of -£1/2m isn't great.
What other costs are going out though for other players from years previous? There will be a bunch of payments, bonuses as well probably, that will be getting paid now, surely?

I've just taken it that clubs will typically spread the fee in terms of them being on the books by putting it across the player's contract. So other than a few exceptions (was Maguire not up front or at least a majority?), we will be paying for other players that we've brought in over the last few years.

I don't claim to know how it works but it at least appears to me that fans really dumb these things down and literally reduce it to 2 columns - in and out - whereas it seems at least that its more complicated than that. Agent fees as well, not sure how they are paid but I wouldn't be surprised if there was a payment structure there as well. There was a list leaked of all the money Barcelona still owe clubs and its mental. Inter still owe us a large chunk for Lukaku but I'm sure people in threads like this just included his fee to Inter in the incoming for that window.

It's why I'm never sure on bet spend, it always seems a bit fishy to me and just appears a cheap way of simplifying numbers or making spend appear smaller. City are a prime example. Their fans are arguing that they've only spent a little more in terms of net than we have but when you go and look at the volume of players they constantly churn out, it's only low because they buy and sell an absolute shit ton of players. Then you have the added convenience of picking a time period that suits. So net spend over the last 5 years sounds fair but then you see the amount of players bought before that 5 year span but sold within it and despite then being sold at a loss, it gets added to the incoming for that period which helps bump it up.

Also, our wage bill is massive. Scary big. I imagine a chunk of our budget is taken up there. Rather than looking at weekly wages, I've started trying to look at the annual figure because it tells a clearer story. We will have less to spend in terms of transfers due to the wages we're carrying, I'd be very surprised if we didn't. So whilst we may not have physically parted ways with large amounts in transfer fees, there will be a host of others costs all bundled together that probably means we're not basically in profit, transfer wise.

Soz for the rambling but I'd like to know more if anyone can shed some light on it. I fully accept that I could be talking shit but this is just how I've generally taken it.
 

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He is nowhere near Barcelona level but if they need someone coming off the bench when they lump the ball in the box he probably is not a bad choice.

Using a Fellaini-esque tactic will work with him but that is totally not the Barcelona way of playing. So kind of surprising they want him.
Agreed. It's so against Barcelona's style of play, but sometimes, that may be necessary, especially when teams park the bus against them.
 

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Really boring for a deadline day. dont care about any of the deals.

Boo..
 

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What other costs are going out though for other players from years previous? There will be a bunch of payments, bonuses as well probably, that will be getting paid now, surely?

I've just taken it that clubs will typically spread the fee in terms of them being on the books by putting it across the player's contract. So other than a few exceptions (was Maguire not up front or at least a majority?), we will be paying for other players that we've brought in over the last few years.

I don't claim to know how it works but it at least appears to me that fans really dumb these things down and literally reduce it to 2 columns - in and out - whereas it seems at least that its more complicated than that. Agent fees as well, not sure how they are paid but I wouldn't be surprised if there was a payment structure there as well. There was a list leaked of all the money Barcelona still owe clubs and its mental. Inter still owe us a large chunk for Lukaku but I'm sure people in threads like this just included his fee to Inter in the incoming for that window.

It's why I'm never sure on bet spend, it always seems a bit fishy to me and just appears a cheap way of simplifying numbers or making spend appear smaller. City are a prime example. Their fans are arguing that they've only spent a little more in terms of net than we have but when you go and look at the volume of players they constantly churn out, it's only low because they buy and sell an absolute shit ton of players. Then you have the added convenience of picking a time period that suits. So net spend over the last 5 years sounds fair but then you see the amount of players bought before that 5 year span but sold within it and despite then being sold at a loss, it gets added to the incoming for that period which helps bump it up.

Also, our wage bill is massive. Scary big. I imagine a chunk of our budget is taken up there. Rather than looking at weekly wages, I've started trying to look at the annual figure because it tells a clearer story. We will have less to spend in terms of transfers due to the wages we're carrying, I'd be very surprised if we didn't. So whilst we may not have physically parted ways with large amounts in transfer fees, there will be a host of others costs all bundled together that probably means we're not basically in profit, transfer wise.

Soz for the rambling but I'd like to know more if anyone can shed some light on it. I fully accept that I could be talking shit but this is just how I've generally taken it.
Yeah I got it wrong, I'll hold my hands up to that.
 

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Can't wait for the next fans forum when Woody and Joel tell us how we "invested heavily" in improving the first team squad, yet after the James sale we've broke even, maybe even made profit for this summer.
Math isn't your strong suit I gather.
 
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