[DomesticTadpole]

Maybe Ole wants to be mini Fergie but Fergie would absolutely fume at that result.
Ole is all about United way but he fails in most important aspect, no United manager should smile with 1:1 at Old Trafford.

No fekin manager.

SAF would have the biggest scowl on his face.

 

[siw2007]

Another game, another mistake, another goal conceded and more points dropped. It’s hard to dissect that game, we played good aesthetically pleasing attacking football for long periods in that game, yet for all our effort, there wasn’t many clear cut chances for the team. Yet again we were susceptible to counter attacks, a stupid mistake by Fred in the build up. Not scoring enough either, I feel we would have got the 2nd if we didn’t concede but we really didn’t create that much for all of our possession.

This brings an end to a disappointing spell for the club. This is going to come around at a bad period for Ole who is going to get loads of stick in the break. He must change something now to stop our season sinking into mediocrity.

 

[hellhunter]

It looks that way. Are the club just going to let him spend and spend. Each season it is likely someone will leave, next summer there could be a few going, not necessarily the ones we want to go. He will never therefore get it right. A good manager could do better with this squad. Benitez would do better with this squad.

Slowly coming around to this conclusion as well. Ole has done reasonably well I think, but we need our manager, whoever it is, to get more out of this squad eventually. And it doesn't look like Ole is capable of achieving that.

 

[Okey]

Sadly we ain't winning nothing until we get a proper manager/coaching team. Until then, enjoy the roller coaster. It's so obvious where we need a change, it's becoming like a piss take for the heirarchy to do nothing about it. What's the point of persisting with something you know just isn't good enough? Or can't they see it?

 

[SirScholes]

Rome wasn't built in a day mate, if he went for a midfielder in the last window maybe Ronaldo would've been playing in sky blue... Is that what you would've preferred?

The Ronaldo money wouldn’t of brought in a midfielder
We were always starting the seasons without a CM

 

[FerociousCorgis]

No chance of Ole getting the sack anytime soon. Won't make any changes until out of ucl and if we drop out of top 4

 

[Inigo Montoya]

Then you need to ask why we lose momentum all the time. We rarely put our foot on any teams necks.

Simple. Lack of midfield control.

Bruno and Pogba are far better up the pitch so the guys behind need to be quality. If you watch Liverpool, Salah and Mane jog back because they know Pool have 3 midfielders who’ll run all night plus they have technical ability. We don’t have that quality in midfield, especially deep. Fabinho, Fernandinho and Fred… who’d you trust out of those 3? For all the stick Henderson gets he’s nowhere near as erratic as McT( who I think does a good job and may be better as a sub)

Currently every team in the top5/6 apart from us, has midfielders who know their job. When it was suggested that Doucoure could do a job for us, it was ridiculed on here as he was a ‘ Watford’ player. He’d have walked into our midfield today.

 

[Hammondo]

Disagree mate, what was Ole supposed to do? Him bringing another holding midfielder on to control the midfield wouldnt get us another goal. The sub from Ole was spot on imo. It's not like we concede again after Pogba came on. He changed a double pivot to a single pivot to pile on more pressure. If he didn't bring Pogba on it would have been another... Why did he not bring in Pogba when we needed a goal? We gambled and lost, on another day could've won with how we played at the end.

Our control of the game was way worse with pogba on, we just went from bad to terrible.

 

[stw2022]

What do we even try to do? Can’t see even a single player who plays like he’s been given specific instruction let alone a team looking like it’s trying to play football in a certain way.

Are his pre-match preparations just him telling stories about ‘that night in Barcelona’?

 

[Real Name]

SAF would have the biggest scowl on his face.

I can imagine him chewing that gum madly and being red with anger.

 

[Swearing Budgie]

Some unbelievable bullshit on this thread as always. You wonder if some people here watched the game at all, or if they've just buried themselves so deep in their determined negativity that everything looks like shit on a stick to them. Disgraceful and ridiculous, and beyond comment.

This was a strong performance. On Wednesday we got 3 points from an abysmal performance, where we deserved none. Today we got 1 from a very good performance, where we would have deserved 3.

Hugely better than the last couple of games. We looked fluent and efficient with the ball, everything we weren't in the last couple of games. Credit to Everton, who played a smart game within their limitations, maximising what they're good at: Controlling their own box, and always taking opportunities on the break. Their goal was a real beauty (though it would never have happened but for Freds fumbling on the ball at the beginning).

It's interesting that when we play this fluid, it stands out more clearly who's got some limitations relative to that level. Ie, Martial (excellent goal aside), Fred and AWB, to a lesser extent McTominay.

I think we saw for the first time today what a force Sancho can (and will) be. Another good one by De Gea. And our CBs were very impressive too, especially Lindelof.

Observation: We seem to have more possession than before - more than 70% today. Can't remember when we last had that. Of course, that's not an end in itself, but we just seem to have more of it more often this year than before. I

For this particular game, my main worry was that we'd deliver another disjointed performance, and we didn't. On the contrary. If we continue playing like this, we'll be fine. For once, I'd rather have that than the points, if I had to choose, because I was starting to get really worried about that.

Bobbins

 

[mancan92]

Ole needs to go there's no excuses for me. The team is good enough. Now perform¡

 

[DomesticTadpole]

That's the united way...but maybe you're too young, you cannot have enough attackers when you want to change and win a game.

I am not too young. We also had a great defence and midfield back then. Our defence have potential if someone coached them to defend. We have not midfield. If Ole was more forceful we would have one.

 

[Inigo Montoya]

The Ronaldo money wouldn’t of brought in a midfielder
We were always starting the seasons without a CM

We could have had both. But apparently we’re holding out for Rice

Shame Ole won’t be here to see him in a Utd shirt

 

[GregM40]

not sure maguire would have made a difference - Lindelof was probably one of our best players

Yeah I rate Lindelof, just think we miss Maguire's leadership when he's out.

 

[Joseunited]

Listening to Ole in his post match interview he doesn't sound angry or upset
Christ sake where is the passion, every fecking week it's the same garbage.
Started well for 5 minutes and then downhill from there,couldn't get the second goal and countered AGAIN,guess what?You're the manager, sort it out for crying out loud.

Feck sake 1 point from 2 winnable home games,what a bloody joke.

 

[mitchmouse]

Just how bad do we have to be - and how many goals down - until Donny gets a chance? Surely he offers more than Fred and with Cavani starting how can we have Marial on the wing ahead of the guy we spend £70m+ on to bring width?

Pretty much sums up my week

 

[goatboy]

Felt a bit sorry for Ole during that interview; rabbit in the headlights and proper dry mouth.

Genuinely looks like he doesn't believe he should be in charge either.

 

[oz insomniac]

Think Fred is soft for a start, slightest pressure and he capitulates. Need somebody in there who can play, but is physically strong.

McTom is stronger but useless, Fred at least tries to get involved, not sure what McToms role is. Can’t be sauntering about on the right hand side of the field and being basically invisible. A taller and worse version of Wes Brown and never gets dropped. Give DVB a shot in that role, can’t be worse.

 

[justsomebloke]

How many chances did this strong, very good, fluent, efficient performance create?

Enough for this to be a good performance. And enough to have given us a good chance to win the game.

 

[Joseunited]

you think he's that close to the sack?

I don't

Me neither,no way he's even close to under pressure.

 

[Tony247]

Listening to Ole in his post match interview he doesn't sound angry or upset
Christ sake where is the passion, every fecking week it's the same garbage.
Started well for 5 minutes and then downhill from there,couldn't get the second goal and countered AGAIN,guess what?You're the manager, sort it out for crying out loud.

Feck sake 1 point from 2 winnable home games,what a bloody joke.

Until now he had excuse of rebuilding but I think he himself realizes at this point he is out of depth here with this world class squad.

 

[Shane88]

Enough for this to be a good performance. And enough to have given us a good chance to win the game.

Martial's goal. Cavani's header.

Surely a strong, very good, fluid and efficient performance at home to a depleted Everton can create more than that?

 

[Dennis Viollet]

We are wasting another year. Enough for me.

 

[Inigo Montoya]

Who would you pair him with out of curiosity. Is it Fred at biggest risk?

I’d say yes. If you want a double pivot, I’d have him and McT with Bruno alongside
Not convinced Bruno and Pogba work against sides who play like that

 

[tjb]

I honestly thought buying Varane would mask some of the frailties at DM.

What's funny about this season is, the defence has actually been good ironically. But we conceded week in and week out due to our midfielders and our shape.

Ole looks like he doesn't know what to do. What's becoming clear as well is that our attackers are individually very effective now. Greenwood has gone up levels, Sancho showed what he can consistently do today, Ronaldo is Ronaldo, Fernandes is Fernandes, Pogba has already shown earlier in the season how creative he can be, Cavani is still a deadly striker and Rashford is coming back. Yet the same lack of cohesiveness in attack exists. It's not just the midfield, there is something wrong in our approach play that makes it difficult to create clear cut chances. For me, it feels way too intricate. We're always trying quick one two's that don't come off. We 're looking to create crossing opportunities, but have only one person in the box. We never get in behind the opposition and yet we don't bombard them with quick approach play either.

 

[MattofManchester]

Pathetic.

That Everton team was shambolic by most standards.
Missing their entire key attack and still got a result.

 

[Inigo Montoya]

We are wasting another year. Enough for me.

So are you off then?

 

[DomesticTadpole]

Simple. Lack of midfield control.

Bruno and Pogba are far better up the pitch so the guys behind need to be quality. If you watch Liverpool, Salah and Mane jog back because they know Pool have 3 midfielders who’ll run all night plus they have technical ability. We don’t have that quality in midfield, especially deep. Fabinho, Fernandinho and Fred… who’d you trust out of those 3? For all the stick Henderson gets he’s nowhere near as erratic as McT( who I think does a good job and may be better as a sub)

Currently every team in the top5/6 apart from us, has midfielders who know their job. When it was suggested that Doucoure could do a job for us, it was ridiculed on here as he was a ‘ Watford’ player. He’d have walked into our midfield today.

He could have put the midfield right if he had a mind to. Agree about Doucoure or the lad at Brighton, Bissouma. Somebody who doesn't mind tactically fouling somebody when they are in a non dangerous position. Fred fouls people in exactly the wrong areas because he cannot tackle, not because he is using his brain. As said earlier would Ole even have thought of Kessie?

 

[Slevs]

Some unbelievable bullshit on this thread as always. You wonder if some people here watched the game at all, or if they've just buried themselves so deep in their determined negativity that everything looks like shit on a stick to them. Disgraceful and ridiculous, and beyond comment.

This was a strong performance. On Wednesday we got 3 points from an abysmal performance, where we deserved none. Today we got 1 from a very good performance, where we would have deserved 3.

Hugely better than the last couple of games. We looked fluent and efficient with the ball, everything we weren't in the last couple of games. Credit to Everton, who played a smart game within their limitations, maximising what they're good at: Controlling their own box, and always taking opportunities on the break. Their goal was a real beauty (though it would never have happened but for Freds fumbling on the ball at the beginning).

It's interesting that when we play this fluid, it stands out more clearly who's got some limitations relative to that level. Ie, Martial (excellent goal aside), Fred and AWB, to a lesser extent McTominay.

I think we saw for the first time today what a force Sancho can (and will) be. Another good one by De Gea. And our CBs were very impressive too, especially Lindelof.

Observation: We seem to have more possession than before - more than 70% today. Can't remember when we last had that. Of course, that's not an end in itself, but we just seem to have more of it more often this year than before. I

For this particular game, my main worry was that we'd deliver another disjointed performance, and we didn't. On the contrary. If we continue playing like this, we'll be fine. For once, I'd rather have that than the points, if I had to choose, because I was starting to get really worried about that.

Nice wum.

 

[CloneMC16]

I think we actually did decently today. Especially the first half. We made more than enough chances to win this game. Poor finishing has cost us two points. If we don't concede, and everything else stayed the same, I think our fans would have been mostly happy with that performance. We still look too open on counters, though. We send a lot of players forward, so we'll get countered sometimes, but it happens too frequently. It happens a lot from our own corners. This needs to be sorted our asap.

I really thought we'd go on and get the second, but it sadly didn't happen.

 

[DomesticTadpole]

McTom is stronger but useless, Fred at least tries to get involved, not sure what McToms role is. Can’t be sauntering about on the right hand side of the field and being basically invisible. A taller and worse version of Wes Brown and never gets dropped. Give DVB a shot in that role, can’t be worse.

Fred doesn't have intelligence though, otherwise he would have made a foul to stop that Everton attack.

 

[SirScholes]

We could have had both. But apparently we’re holding out for Rice

Shame Ole won’t be here to see him in a Utd shirt

Hopefully we Ole leaves and we don’t sign Rice

big run of fixtures coming up, not sure if the board have the bottle but our season could be saved if Ole is sacked before Christmas

 

[bonothom]

Genuine question. What exactly is it going to take for him to get the sack?

Not making top 4.its that simple. This club is not really bothered about winning the title anymore

 

[Inigo Montoya]

What's funny about this season is, the defence has actually been good ironically. But we conceded week in and week out due to our midfielders and our shape.

Ole looks like he doesn't know what to do. What's becoming clear as well is that our attackers are individually very effective now. Greenwood has gone up levels, Sancho showed what he can consistently do today, Ronaldo is Ronaldo, Fernandes is Fernandes, Pogba has already shown earlier in the season how creative he can be, Cavani is still a deadly striker and Rashford is coming back. Yet the same lack of cohesiveness in attack exists. It's not just the midfield, there is something wrong in our approach play that makes it difficult to create clear cut chances. For me, it feels way too intricate. We're always trying quick one two's that don't come off. We 're looking to create crossing opportunities, but have only one person in the box. We never get in behind the opposition and yet we don't bombard them with quick approach play either.

Yes indeed! And we don’t know what style suits us best. As a counter attacking side we’ve been superb but as a possession based side, we don’t have the technique or coaching to do so

 

[DomesticTadpole]

I’d say yes. If you want a double pivot, I’d have him and McT with Bruno alongside
Not convinced Bruno and Pogba work against sides who play like that

Scott isn't great, but he has a good engine to get forward.

 

[wolvored]

And why the feck was he laughing and smiling seconds before full time????

Exactly. Having a joke with one of the worst perfoming players on the pitch he should be bollocking

 

[Widow]

I can sympathise with most of this after the poor run we’ve been on but it’s really much too soon to panic. The one area that looks like it can’t be solved with players we have is CM but I don’t see why the rest can’t step up and get back into some kind of form.

I'm not panicking. It's a fair observation from his time here.

I don't think the Americans will make a change but I just can't see us reaching the summit with 'Ole at the wheel' I wish we could, I'd love it to be him but sadly, he is just coming up short.

The excuses/reasons are wearing thin. It's time to talk less and produce more.

 

[Gazautd18]

Said it after the Wolves game that we were lucky.
Nothing much has changed since then.
Luck ran out against Villa.
Got lucky against Villarreal.
Forget tactics, just have to see what side luck is on for our next game...

 

[reelworld]

Utter utter shit.
But I'm not surprised. I already predict that this will be at least a draw.
Benitez for all his faults is a very good manager. Knows how to set up his team well. Strong defense and pacy attack? That's a team that Ole United will always struggle with