Newcastle United now owned by the PIF | PL receives "legally binding assurances that the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia will not control NUFC" ;)

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I thought you should know your owner got arrested.

 

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Why would this takeover galvanise United fans? That is what the tweet is suggesting.
Fan power. Toon fans didn't like Ashley and actively campaigned, made him feel very uncomfortable and he's been looking to sell for a long time. United had mass demonstrations, which have vanished now as we signed Ronaldo, Sancho and got a few empty promises off the owners.
 

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That was what I was telling. As long as they control Mecca, they already have all kind of celebrity Muslims going there and taking pics and posting on insta. They have so much publicity. It is only in the non Islamic world, that they need good PR, again debatable because pretty much all countries do business with the Saudis without inhibition.
Muslims go to Mecca and Medina regularly doesn't mean they like Saudi Government or Saudi's Imams/Clerics.
 

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Sorry this probably has been addressed in the thread already but these assurances...how are they going to be monitored and do similar legal restrictions apply to City (another nation state sponsored club)?
 

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How much would Newcastle need to spend to win the league? £500 million if they have decent luck in the market?

They need to replace literally everyone in the squad and the coaching staff.
Probably closer to what Abramovitch paid, which was around £2 billion, wasn't it? (I'm not having a go, serious question). Prices for top tier players will almost certainly skyrocket. Figure on 15 new players over the next 3 years at £100m a pop, and then 5 new players the next couple of seasons. They are still going to need a Mourinho type of manager (who isn't Mourinho). Mark Hughes at City was Phase 1 of that shit show. Think Pep will be up for "a new challenge"?
 

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FFP ain't gonna make a damn bit of difference. Newcastle get double the gate (triple?) that Man City gets, so whatever City spends Newcastle can make it look a pittance.

Back when Mansour took over City, I wondered why they didn't just buy Newcastle and start their own empire instead of trying to create drama in Manchester.

It really does spell trouble for City, though, because the mercenaries will go to the highest bidder. That would actually be really fecking funny. The thing that ain't funny is the sports-washing that is going to happen with this money. That's fecked up. Newcastle fans deserve better, but I wonder how many of them will care when they have a squad of global mercenaries making PSG look like a bunch of cloggers?
 

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Another state owned club i see. I just don't get how fans want this, a foreign power a literal criminal state is taking over your home town club and you cheer towards your own (and footballs) demise. I'd never accept my club which i grow up with being in the hands of some foreign head of state, like how do you moraly justify continuting your support after that, i really don't understand that.

Imagine your club being run by it's members and people who live, eat, sleep and die for the club.
 

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Another state owned club i see. I just don't get how fans want this, a foreign power a literal criminal state is taking over your home town club and you cheer towards your own (and footballs) demise. I'd never accept my club which i grow up with being in the hands of some foreign head of state, like how do you moraly justify continuting your support after that, i really don't understand that.

Imagine your club being run by it's members and people who live, eat, sleep and die for the club.
If fan-ownership something mandated by law in Germany?
 

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Another state owned club i see. I just don't get how fans want this, a foreign power a literal criminal state is taking over your home town club and you cheer towards your own (and footballs) demise. I'd never accept my club which i grow up with being in the hands of some foreign head of state, like how do you moraly justify continuting your support after that, i really don't understand that.

Imagine your club being run by it's members and people who live, eat, sleep and die for the club.
Fans want results, trophies and a show. Does not matter anymore who’s in charge.
 

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This won’t go as smoothly as City or Chelsea.

1. Almost all premier league owners are billionaires. A lot have over 2-3 billion, and most bought their clubs as toys for their pleasure. So unless the Newcastle owners are prepared to buy players for twice their value, there isn’t a need for owners to just sell their best players to them. This isn’t City in 2008, when the smaller sides had to sell to balance their books.

2. They aren’t based in a major city that’ll appeal to a bunch of rich young footballers.

3. Who are they going to attract? We’ve had clubs such as Fulham come up and spend 100m in a transfer window, only to get relegated. Unless they have a proper system in place and climb up into European football, no major player is going there. They can offer 800k a week but that’s what clubs such as Madrid, Barca and PSG have been doing for the past decade.
We are talking of multi billionaires. If The Glazers were willing to sell United, MBS could have bought it. He certainly can afford it. The only competition for them comes from City.
Potter could replace Bruce.
 

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If fan-ownership something mandated by law in Germany?
It is indeed. In my little northern european country aswell and it will remain so. Fans are so strong here that something similiar would under no circumstances happend here. Then again we don't have any global aspirations, for if we did we'd have to trade our morality for it and our soul.
 

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My apathy towards football grows by the day. I used to soak up everything but that gradually reduced to only watching United. It’s just one big advert for gambling, Visit Dubai and shit watches. Needs to die and be remade.
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This won’t go as smoothly as City or Chelsea.

1. Almost all premier league owners are billionaires. A lot have over 2-3 billion, and most bought their clubs as toys for their pleasure. So unless the Newcastle owners are prepared to buy players for twice their value, there isn’t a need for owners to just sell their best players to them. This isn’t City in 2008, when the smaller sides had to sell to balance their books.

2. They aren’t based in a major city that’ll appeal to a bunch of rich young footballers.

3. Who are they going to attract? We’ve had clubs such as Fulham come up and spend 100m in a transfer window, only to get relegated. Unless they have a proper system in place and climb up into European football, no major player is going there. They can offer 800k a week but that’s what clubs such as Madrid, Barca and PSG have been doing for the past decade.
If they throw enough cash at it, it always eventually sticks. First season or two will be a bit scattered I imagine

In terms of attracting players, they signed David Ginola and Tino Asprilla back in the day so I don’t see why they won’t attract players now with mega wages on offer
 

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They should go for all the Barca and Madrid rejects. Big names from the premier league.

Hazard and Coutinho. Easily available. Gain momentum. It's the right step.
 

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We are talking of multi billionaires. If The Glazers were willing to sell United, MBS could have bought it. He certainly can afford it. The only competition for them comes from City.
Potter could replace Bruce.
Why Potter? I agree that he is a good manager with a lot of potential but I can see the Saudis wanting a big name. Could they go out and lure a Conte type marquee manager? Unlikely... but a manager such as Lampard or Gerrard (both linked in the media this morning) would offer a bigger name.
 

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Another state owned club i see. I just don't get how fans want this, a foreign power a literal criminal state is taking over your home town club and you cheer towards your own (and footballs) demise. I'd never accept my club which i grow up with being in the hands of some foreign head of state, like how do you moraly justify continuting your support after that, i really don't understand that.

Imagine your club being run by it's members and people who live, eat, sleep and die for the club.
Let's face it, football at the top level is fecked. There is literally no club which is whiter than white. In Germany, Bayern are seen as corporate sellouts, in Spain we have Barca, who are owned by their members and who still proceeded to feck things up so much they'll be offering reacharounds in the back of their car for the foreseeable future.

And then you have the pernicious owners of Utd and Arsenal, and the blatant sportswashers at City and now Newcastle.

I'm pretty nonplussed about it all. I've long lost that idealised view of the game, and as long as it wasn't my club who was bought by such a character, then it is what it is. The PL were ok with the biggest sporting institution being turned into the personal ATM of some inbred Floridian hicks, so what do they care if some nasty cnut was to come in and actually spend money?
 

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It’ll take years for Newcastle to compete. They can’t just go and buy Mbappe, Harland. Look at city. Before they could attract the elite, they had to bring in Bellamy, Lescott, Petrov etc. It took them at least 5 years really to be challenging
 

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This won’t go as smoothly as City or Chelsea.

1. Almost all premier league owners are billionaires. A lot have over 2-3 billion, and most bought their clubs as toys for their pleasure. So unless the Newcastle owners are prepared to buy players for twice their value, there isn’t a need for owners to just sell their best players to them. This isn’t City in 2008, when the smaller sides had to sell to balance their books.

2. They aren’t based in a major city that’ll appeal to a bunch of rich young footballers.

3. Who are they going to attract? We’ve had clubs such as Fulham come up and spend 100m in a transfer window, only to get relegated. Unless they have a proper system in place and climb up into European football, no major player is going there. They can offer 800k a week but that’s what clubs such as Madrid, Barca and PSG have been doing for the past decade.
Newcastle are a big club which makes it easier to financially dope them since they have attendance figures to back up huge endorsement deals. There is always a Tevez or a Robinho lying around somewhere looking for a big payday so they will get one or two of those in addition to unwanted players at big clubs. Right now they are looking to avoid relegation, the next step would be to challenge for Europe and depending on the manager they can attract that won't be too difficult to do. In January they could realistically get Martial and Lingard, add an experienced CB to that they easily avoid relegation then in the summer after a new shirt deal, a new stadium naming rights deal, new training kit deal and new training ground deal they can spend circa 300m on new talent.

You say the PL has billionaire owners but who needs to buy from the PL when clubs across the continent are suffocating due to COVID? The most important person they have to attract is the manager, they have to identify and hire a very good one for now. This is the mistake City made early on in that they wasted time with the likes of Hughes but once Mancini came in it didn't take time for them to start challenging and winning trophies and they didn't have the kind of organic support that Newcastle have. Last I checked most managers aren't really fussy about who they manage as long as they know they will have the funds to compete.
 

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It’ll take years for Newcastle to compete. They can’t just go and buy Mbappe, Harland. Look at city. Before they could attract the elite, they had to bring in Bellamy, Lescott, Petrov etc. It took them at least 5 years really to be challenging
Didn’t they win the league 4 years after take over?
 

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FFP ain't gonna make a damn bit of difference. Newcastle get double the gate (triple?) that Man City gets, so whatever City spends Newcastle can make it look a pittance.

Back when Mansour took over City, I wondered why they didn't just buy Newcastle and start their own empire instead of trying to create drama in Manchester.

It really does spell trouble for City, though, because the mercenaries will go to the highest bidder. That would actually be really fecking funny. The thing that ain't funny is the sports-washing that is going to happen with this money. That's fecked up. Newcastle fans deserve better, but I wonder how many of them will care when they have a squad of global mercenaries making PSG look like a bunch of cloggers?
The Newcastle fans are dancing in the streets!
 

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It’ll take years for Newcastle to compete. They can’t just go and buy Mbappe, Harland. Look at city. Before they could attract the elite, they had to bring in Bellamy, Lescott, Petrov etc. It took them at least 5 years really to be challenging
I don’t think anyone is suggesting it’s going to be an immediate turn around for Newcastle

Their ambition this season will probably remain, too not get relegated.

Then the real building works can start and it will take a few years to start coming to fruition.

I’ve seen mentioned a few times now that geographically Newcastle won’t have the pull like the London or Manchester teams

Disagree

Geographically London and Manchester aren’t the only places “to be” in the UK for young millionaires. The Geordi shore lifestyle (cringe I know) is very attractive for young millionaires, it’s a great city with an excellent choice of lifestyle too be had up there.

Throw in a huge football Club with owners collectively worth upwards of £320 billion pumping in money for project “win everything” with big wages…..it will eventually become a massive massive massive pull for big time players when the project is in full swing a few years from now. Doesn’t mean they’ll be dominating by then but their project will be becoming obvious I’d imagine and like at City, they (players) will want in on it whilst no doubt getting their lylos out to float on top of their pools of money with the wages they’ll also get.

The project is going to be mammoth likes Cities all then years ago
 

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Can't help but feel this spells trouble for the likes of us, Liverpool and Arsenal etc.

We struggle to keep up with City. Now there are two state owned clubs. Best of all, the Saudis are way richer than City's owners.
 

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Didn’t they win the league 4 years after take over?
Took them just 2/3 years before signing absolute top quality, and made the champions league in the 3rd season, won the league in the 4th. It’s absolutely inevitable that this will happen again. People are being naive if they think it won’t.