DomesticTadpole
Doom-monger obsessed with Herrera & the M.E.N.
It isn't.Why is it obviously not?
It isn't.Why is it obviously not?
Oh yeah Prince Salman is probably not gay.I wouldn't be spreading that rumour about or you might mysteriously disappear.
Look up the punishment for homosexuality in KSAWhy is it obviously not?
Nah they’ll spend big in JanuaryBe hilarous if they get relegated.
I actually looked it up on Wiki.
No picture of his missus I see even though she has a wiki page.
Yep, it's all there under Personal Life.
They have infinite money for attracting players. Initially, that will mean picking up slightly over the hill former greats looking for one last payday (plus a smattering of talented youngsters), but they should be competing at the top of the transfer market within 4-5 years. The stadium and training ground will require significant upgrades of course, but those projects can be completed within 3-4 years.They need the infrastructure and develop the pull to attract the players good enough. They aren’t coming into a weakened league ala City, it’ll take them longer to get a foothold.
Well he's not getting any poorer or less vain so who knows?Honestly think it’s Chelsea in the long run. Say it takes 10 years for Newcastle to threaten the top 4, then it takes longer to consistently stay there. How long is Roman going to stick it when he’s nearing 70?
Don't mind me too much, I'm just glad I don't care about things that bother some people. Plenty of other things I care more about.Surely it's just showing what each poster believes, I doubt anyone is 'shaken' unless they are Newcastle fans? Not Tony Blair though, he doesn't give a hoot.
haha yes i am aware of that but not sure it applies to everyoneLook up the punishment for homosexuality in KSA
Did you read beyond the headline? It said no cases.Apple claim progress? So still making products in child labour factorities. What's your point? OK what about you TV? Or literally every other technology product in your house.
Exactly.I've seen first hand the lengths large corporations go to to make sure there are no labour violations amongst their suppliers. There are armies of people working on it and all sorts of checks, but some cases will always slip through. It's vastly different to a country having laws that purposely oppress large swathes of the population.
But there’s still FFP to think about and it’s not as if other clubs aren’t throwing around money themselves. They still have to attract the calibre of players to challenge the top 4 without CL football and that’s a massive hurdle in itself. Plus squads need planning and an ethos needs to built at the club.They have infinite money for attracting players. Initially, that will mean picking up slightly over the hill former greats looking for one last payday (plus a smattering of talented youngsters), but they should be competing at the top of the transfer market within 4-5 years. The stadium and training ground will require significant upgrades of course, but those projects can be completed within 3-4 years.
I'd be absolutely amazed if they weren't challenging for the league by the mid-point of the decade, given the resources they have at their disposal.
FFP will be swept aside by Newcastle, just as it has been by City and PSG. Multiple sponsorship deals with Saudi-based companies and their partners will be imminent.But there’s still FFP to think about and it’s not as if other clubs aren’t throwing around money themselves. They still have to attract the calibre of players to challenge the top 4 without CL football and that’s a massive hurdle in itself. Plus squads need planning and an ethos needs to built at the club.
Look at the likes of Everton who just throw enormous money around and is doesn’t elevate them to top 4 challenging status.
They will first get a high quality director of football as a statement of intent. Then they will get a decent but not elite high press coach and start building out from there. When they reach critical mass of quality they will get an elite high press coach and start challenging. It's pretty much the City textbookThey need the infrastructure and develop the pull to attract the players good enough. They aren’t coming into a weakened league ala City, it’ll take them longer to get a foothold.
Well many of us are guilty of not knowing the full supply chain history, factory of origin and their working practices for everything we purchase but I am sure there are very few of us who execute journalists and homosexuals, imprison people for protesting, use torture as a punishment and discriminate against women, although to be fair to them it isn't all bad, in June 2021, Saudi Arabia started allowing women to live alone without permission from a male guardian....whoopeeAs I said we in the western world enjoy the fruits of all sorts of products and services which come off the backs of terrible social issues yet we happily look over everyday. It's embarrassing to me people here typing about having the moral high ground whilst typing off a mobile phone made in child labour factorities.
If a country is still dealing with something the West did to them 500 years ago that's on the country, not the West. We were busy cleaning up after a civil war and chopping our Queens' heads off in 1521. The world was a totally different place.My point is countries are still dealing with what the West has done to them over the last 500 years. There are loads of countries including mine which haven't moved on and can't as they are still having things done to them and there has been no attempt at righting the wrongs that have been done to them previously.
Also your second point is hilarious. I said you can complain at the Saudis all you want. But to call a Newcastle fan embarrassing or using it as a way to hold some sort of moral highground over them is ridiculous.
Wolves put together a very strong squad in the championshipImagine if they get relegated this season. Very real chance that they do. Signing a conga line of stars won't be easy if you're not even in the top flight. Now imagine if they get relegated and don't secure promotion next season. The fecking banter.
I've really grown to dislike the use of the term 'The West' and if there was a thumbs up emoji available I would insert it here.What country did that to you? Norway? Sweden? Austria? Finland? Italy? Ireland?
Or... UK? America?
You are trying to exploit general guilt, I'm not buying it.Sorry.
The same way they feel about all the women working in the companies they ownNot sure how the new owners are going to feel about female referees............
It'll be an interesting litmus test for how stereotypically fundamentalist the new Saudi ownership really is.Are they going to buy out their shirt sponsor? I can't imagine they'll be too happy holding up a shirt with "Fun88" (a Chinese gambling firm who is their current one) on it.
There's secular and there's secular. I doubt they'll sack all the gay employees but I think promoting gambling (especially as their main shirt sponsor) might be a bit much.It'll be an interesting litmus test for how stereotypically fundamentalist the new Saudi ownership really is.
Part of me thinks that they might run the club in a completely secular way. This takeover is, after all, an attempt to sports wash the negativity around the nation's image.
It's kind of a roadblock. If there wasn't any FFP you'd probably seen City, Chelsea and PSG spending 10times as much. Haaland and Kane would've been signed on the spot for whatever money.People are so naive to be referring to FFP as a potential roadblock to stopping the Saudi Arabians finding a way to spend.
The PL and top end of the Championship is a Superleague in all but name anyway.Will this breathe new life into the Superleague?
The Elite clubs knew what was coming, next up will be Norwich to be taken over.
The Premier League pretty much is the Super League now.They'll be in the next super League proposal
City and PSG were invited to the superleague. If NUFC owners have serious dosh they're willing to spend, then they'd also be invited to it.Will this breathe new life into the Superleague?
The Elite clubs knew what was coming, next up will be Norwich to be taken over.
But City didn’t have the quality up against them that Newcastle have now. The year Pep agreed to join City they should have finished 5th if we didn’t bottle the West Ham game.They will first get a high quality director of football as a statement of intent. Then they will get a decent but not elite high press coach and start building out from there. When they reach critical mass of quality they will get an elite high press coach and start challenging. It's pretty much the City textbook
Not only that the rest of the league and top half of the Championship is effectively a closed shop aswell due to relegation reward money and parachute payment.The Premier League pretty much is the Super League now.
Real, Bayern, Juve and PSG will dominate their own domestic leagues for the next decade. But PL will now have 4 of its own clubs with just as much money and clout as all of them - plus a midtable who could easily go toe-to-toe with anyone in Europe on a good day.
La Liga have gotten pretty strict on FFP. Plus, La Liga is not as marketable. Yes, Barcelona and Real Madrid are iconic clubs, and likely always will be, but arguably that's because of what they have achieved in Europe.Why do these sheikhs never buy Spanish clubs? I've always been curious. Does the league there forbid such a scenario?
I think City's owners also own Girona, I think there's genuinely some kind of dodgy link there given Pep's brother is the other major owner.Why do these sheikhs never buy Spanish clubs? I've always been curious. Does the league there forbid such a scenario?
Peter Lim (a billionaire from Singapore) owns Valencia so the league doesn't forbid a single, mega-rich foreigner owning a club.Why do these sheikhs never buy Spanish clubs? I've always been curious. Does the league there forbid such a scenario?
If that's true, and the they're really looking for a ROI, then in all likelihood we won't be seeing fake inflated sponsorship deals from other PIF companies. Do you honestly think that won't happen?Hi, again, I’m saudi and I’ll try to give an insight on how PIF works and why the figure (10x richer than Man City) is not accurate.
For those who expect that Saudi is in it for image (only) should read more on how PIF operates.
PIF is a sovereign fund. One of the biggest in the world (I think only behind Norway sovereign fund, but I could be wrong)
PIF is one of the main vehicles for Saudi to diversify the economy away from oil. It’s responsible for lots of the biggest projects in the world that cost huge amounts of money (you can read on NEOM, Amala, Red Sea, Qiddeyah … and many other projects inside saudi). As well as a lot of international investments (of which new castle is now one).
PIF has clear announced returns targets that they have to meet (like all other funds). Yes, it has a lot of money, but it also has a lot of projects.
Long story short, PIF expects good returns on their investments. New Castle is not a passion project of some billionaire who liked how the stadium looks or just want to show off against other rich peers. The amount of money PIF has is irrelevant because PIF will cut its losses if returns are below what’s expected.
That being said, I do expect that PIF will invest (within reason) as long as that Investment will generate returns.
I also expect that PIF will invest in the City of New Castle as a measure to maximize returns (beyond the club itself).