I thought the Jackson/Culkin stuff was pretty funny TBF.
Television Netflix announces 3 new Dave Chappelle comedy specials
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Comedian is lazy because he speaks of the current political climate, his life. What do comedians normally joke about?
Trumpo.
Thought it was hilarious.
A million different things. Being an ant, canyon rope bridges, nothingness(Personal favourite). Also David Chappell is like a really good comedian, so he should be doing something a bit more interesting then well his new pet dog.
About 20 minutes in and he's fallen pretty far since I last saw him. He just comes across as a cranky middle aged guy who's given up trying to make sense of the world and just delivers half baked routines with barely- there punchlines. All he's got left is his delivery and even that seems jaded.
Not another Roy Keane thread!
Watched one of these to see what the craic is, considering his basically legendary status. Just seemed like any other American standup to me.
So... the third special is out. Seems our Dave said some controversial things.
I don't think what he said was that bad. But then I'm not someone who's affected by transphobia so I can accept I'm missing something.
There's also this bit about Da Baby which got him into even more hot water:
Anyone watched he whole thing yet?
I don't think what he said was that bad. But then I'm not someone who's affected by transphobia so I can accept I'm missing something.
There's also this bit about Da Baby which got him into even more hot water:
Anyone watched he whole thing yet?
just the clips. Much of what Dave says is blown out of proportion, with people forgetting who he is and what he does. To be fair, if you go down the street, no one is talking about this stuff. Its mostly blown out of proportion on social media sites and he'll probably win a Grammy and earn shedloads more money. He'll never be in "hot water" so to speak.
I've nearly finished it. Typical Dave Chappelle - in your face, hilarious, politically charged.
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just watched the ending, absolutely awesome.
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I’ll be honest, he’s getting a bit boring now. It’s just Dave trying to downplay his obvious prejudices with “You can’t say nothing cause I’m black and we had it worse” nonsense.
Watching Dave Chappelle is like watching a living legend in action, it feels special.
its not that deep. I wouldn't say Dave is prejudice at all. He has always been a piss taker and has spoken about many different people/groups, as well as a sort of social commentary.
Ever seen Bill Burr live?
Not nearly as funny as he used to be. And that's fine.
Louis CK's standup is ridiculously consistent. Bill Burr is more effortlessly funny in interviews and better at improvising. But prime Dave Chappelle is the best standup comedian ever, imo.
Louis CK's standup is ridiculously consistent. Bill Burr is more effortlessly funny in interviews and better at improvising. But prime Dave Chappelle is the best standup comedian ever, imo.
I dunno, I just can’t see it. He references punching down on the latest show but if the group of people he’s mocking is telling him it’s offensive and it needs to stop, then maybe he just needs to stop.
Offence/cancelling/whatever aside, keeping going over this shit it’s just…. Really boring.
Comedians making specials about how people on Twitter were mean to them and how much they really don’t care, but also here’s a long entire bit I wrote about it and have performed multiple times in several different specials I’m paid millions for. These are middle aged men. It’s not exactly cutting edge is it?… do they literally have nothing else to talk about? Are they that rich and bored?
Chappelle is a legendary comedian and master story teller but his last few things have been very… yawn…. Doesn’t really seem like the kind of hills Carlin would die on, does it?
Comedians making specials about how people on Twitter were mean to them and how much they really don’t care, but also here’s a long entire bit I wrote about it and have performed multiple times in several different specials I’m paid millions for. These are middle aged men. It’s not exactly cutting edge is it?… do they literally have nothing else to talk about? Are they that rich and bored?
Chappelle is a legendary comedian and master story teller but his last few things have been very… yawn…. Doesn’t really seem like the kind of hills Carlin would die on, does it?
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I thought it was a good special, even if some of the jokes were predictable or straight-up tone-deaf. It also feels like he’s milking Daphne the trans woman waaaayyy too much to give himself credibility.
Also showing a lack of understanding of terminology when he says gender is a straight and simple fact. Sex might be, but gender ain’t, Dave.
Still, really good special, and he’s obviously still one of the GOATs.
Also showing a lack of understanding of terminology when he says gender is a straight and simple fact. Sex might be, but gender ain’t, Dave.
Still, really good special, and he’s obviously still one of the GOATs.
Diminishing returns on the trans topics. Like, we get it man. Also, I'm tired of comics talking about being canceled. You're doing a comedy show. You're not canceled. Shut up and talk about whatever you want to talk about
seems to me that taking the piss out of predominantly white, middle class terfs would be waaaaay more on point than taking the piss out of an already highly marginalised and discriminated group of people. i just don't think he knows what he's joking about enough in this case, and when that happens (to any comedian), it really shows. or else he really is a transphobe. wouldn't surprise me really, he's always been a bit homophobic too, hasn't he?
Gonna get through it this weekend. I’ve got tickets to see him in London in a few weeks too - cannot wait.
Don't know about that as Carlin pretty much started the trend of not telling jokes on stage and instead just having a old grumpy man rant for 60 minutes. Also responsible for the idea that comedians are important ''truth tellers'' rather then the reality which is people desperately looking to get a blow job in the club toilets.
None of us have really come to terms with the fact the best stand up special of the past 5 year was Trump 2020 CPAC speech.
I think you’ll find it’s a big tent with room for both truth tellers and philanderers… as well as truth telling philanderers.
His special is getting picked apart and then news outlets and people are just commenting on it. Without watching the entire special and understanding exactly what he's referencing, people are, unsurprisingly, missing the entire point(s) Dave makes. I'll probably watch it this weekend with full attention.
Here's two very clear comments (via Reddit) on the "heat" Dave is getting. It's just Dave being Dave, i.e. being 10s of steps ahead of people who have no fecking clue what they are doing, even when those people believe they are "right" or "just"
Dave: "Gender is fact. Every human being in this room, every human being on earth, had to pass through the legs of a woman to be on earth. That is fact." Then he makes explicit jokes about the bodies of trans women.
Context from Reddit comment: "The jokes are a lead in to the cumulation of the special, where he talks about how the trans community harassed his friend (a trans female comedian who defended him, him as in Dave) until she killed herself. He's obviously trying to call out the hypocrisy of people who pretend to care about others, but are really just high on their own righteousness."
Context II: "Using comedy to hold a mirror up to society that makes the audience face uncomfortable truths? Nah, that doesn't sound like Chapelle at all."
Here's two very clear comments (via Reddit) on the "heat" Dave is getting. It's just Dave being Dave, i.e. being 10s of steps ahead of people who have no fecking clue what they are doing, even when those people believe they are "right" or "just"
Dave: "Gender is fact. Every human being in this room, every human being on earth, had to pass through the legs of a woman to be on earth. That is fact." Then he makes explicit jokes about the bodies of trans women.
Context from Reddit comment: "The jokes are a lead in to the cumulation of the special, where he talks about how the trans community harassed his friend (a trans female comedian who defended him, him as in Dave) until she killed herself. He's obviously trying to call out the hypocrisy of people who pretend to care about others, but are really just high on their own righteousness."
Context II: "Using comedy to hold a mirror up to society that makes the audience face uncomfortable truths? Nah, that doesn't sound like Chapelle at all."
Doesn't sound very funny tbh.
That's the layer(s) that Dave is well-known and respected for. They are inconvenient truths and he makes you think at some point during and after you're laughing or trying to understand his set.
examples ?
I think Chappell can be very funny but I've never learned any inconvenient truths from his or anyone else stand up(Tbh I would be worried if I did).
Acaster fecking knows
This has really turned me off stand up shows and specials in the last 3-4 years.
that goes for all comedy. Comedians like him are piss takers. It wouldn't be the same if everyone just said "make jokes but not us because we deserve exception". wouldn't really work.
But comedy has come a long way from laughing down at minorities. Even just a one off might do but Dave dug himself a hole in his first Netflix special and just kept coming back to it to the point it seems like spite.
Why become a martyr to this? Just move on. To go back time and time again even after being told the community finds it offensive just seems off to me.
just beating the same point in special after special to hide behind I can say this cause blacks suffer (feck sake) is a cheap cop out
comedy has gone nowhere and he doesn't simply target minorities. He tends to speak on what is current affairs/topics. Do you know he made jokes about rape, murder, abusing women, paedo's, Jews, racism, the catholic church and see what subject people are getting their knickers in a twist over? kind of proves his point.
I guess every spectator will take something different from his specials but that’s one hell of a stretch, even for RaceCafe.
That’s what he ends those jokes with though.
I’m telling you, it’s done,” he says. “I’m done talking about it. All I ask of your community, with all humility: will you please stop punching down on my people.”
Where’s the stretch?
that. . .
There’s an argument about why comedians try to pedestal the art form so they can spew ‘hate speech’ behind the veil of humour but I didn’t hear an apology, if anything I heard a guy on his last special fighting with the idea his words have repercussions, not ‘You can’t say nothing cause I’m black and we had it worse’.
The punching down on my people line is poignant, just as Chappelle a black man has questionable views on ‘the alphabet people’, there are members of that community that don’t particularly say nice things about other minorities.
[I wrote more but it goes off topic, he’s definitely screaming ‘woe is me’ but if your mind went to, ‘I’m black so I can say what I want’ then I think there’s a preconception about about a black man speaking their mind at play].
ain’t this. . .
He started the show asking how Da Baby can kill a black man then go on a meteoric raise yet he say something & get cancelled, that’s a fair question. Both are wrong but one is accepted. He then goes on to say he’s actually jealous of the movement. It’s art so we’re all free to take different viewpoints but what I get from it is, why are his [& his fellow comedians] words punished with people losing their jobs [‘taking their lives’ or something] where people’s actions go unpunished.
There’s an argument about why comedians try to pedestal the art form so they can spew ‘hate speech’ behind the veil of humour but I didn’t hear an apology, if anything I heard a guy on his last special fighting with the idea his words have repercussions, not ‘You can’t say nothing cause I’m black and we had it worse’.
The punching down on my people line is poignant, just as Chappelle a black man has questionable views on ‘the alphabet people’, there are members of that community that don’t particularly say nice things about other minorities.
[I wrote more but it goes off topic, he’s definitely screaming ‘woe is me’ but if your mind went to, ‘I’m black so I can say what I want’ then I think there’s a preconception about about a black man speaking their mind at play].