Desert Eagle
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More than 50 headed goals in his career says otherwise.Definitely not.
More than 50 headed goals in his career says otherwise.Definitely not.
Makes it look so easy. Does make it a bit more annoying how bad we are at just getting good crosses in at the front post - he's always there making the move!
Don't think im seeing enough Cavani love
Ronaldo was brilliant in the air here his first time around. I still think that header against roma is the best ive ever seen.No additions to the names, but I have a slightly different take on this in that I think great headers of the ball (in competition) are actually likely to be 30 or over, so to look for a young great is a bit pointless because they haven't had a chance to shine yet.
Tldr - I reckon the vast majority of greats will have achieved that mantle in very late 20s or early to mid 30s.
- Physical strength peaks around 30 - You need that strength to climb high and to beat those around you.
- Headers require amazing timing and a lot of experience - You start playing with your feet, not your head, so it's likely this skill develops later in your career.
- You're probably a primary forward - Forwards get more headed chances than anybody else and conversion rates are generally low. It takes career time to get to a position when you are considered a primary attacking threat.
- Crossing is hard - If I see Greenwood and Ronaldo in the box, who do I aim for? Ronaldo, because there's more proof he'll score, and I have a mountain of evidence to predict where he will be. Players in the game longer have more credibility and other players know where to find them, thereby increasing their opportunities to score both in number of chances and delivery quality.
fecking midget scoring header in the space between Rio and Vidić and over van der fecking Sar in a fecking CL final, you can't make that shit up.I remember Kompany and Messi scoring some fine headers...
That’s almost all down to the guy being a 1,95 meters tall, 100 kg striker. I’ve watched him quite extensively, technically he’s not great at heading the ball.More than 50 headed goals in his career says otherwise.
The CTE concerns are already starting to be seen in younger age groups, and from what I understand the research is showing that the effects of heading the ball is actually much worse than originally thought, so there is a very real chance that heading is removed from the game in the next few decades. It’s almost impossible to not do something about it, as it’s 100% proven that heading a ball regularly increases the likelihood of brain issues later in life.I doubt an opposing view can even be formulated to C.Ronaldo being one of the best headers of a ball in the entire history of the game. If he connects cleanly with a cross, a goal or solid attempt at goal is guaranteed.
What I thought when watching his latest exploit is: who else out there could you say the same of? In that exact scenario, if you removed Ronaldo and put in other players, who else would you give high odds of scoring to?
Concerns over CTE and a general aversion from teams to cross high in general has lessened heading as an art, in my view; the days of star headers of a ball seem long gone. The likes of Oliver Bierhoff and Karlheinz Ridle, or even Miroslav Klose having no modern-day equivalence and Ronaldo himself being an anachronistic throwback by now kind of makes clear heading is nowhere near as important in a coaching curriculum as it used to be.
If I'm not wrong in my musing, the next rung down of good headers of the ball are all close to retirement themselves, with what they were coached not really being seen in the younger players coming up. Cavani, Lewandowski, Sergio Ramos are players who instantly come to mind as I'm typing this.
Is this assessment incorrect? Removing Ronaldo: If you construct a top 5 great goalscoring headers of the ball, does anyone under 29 or so make the cut? If not, why do you think that is? And additionally, is Ronaldo the last all-time level header(er?) of a ball we'll ever see (directly in relation to CTE concerns and the future marginalisation of the skill)?
Fair enough.That’s almost all down to the guy being a 1,95 meters tall, 100 kg striker. I’ve watched him quite extensively, technically he’s not great at heading the ball.
Yeah see I'm not convinced that's actually true. He was banging them in for fun with his right foot while he was with us sure enough and scored a couple of absolute worldies, but he really didn't score a huge number with his head while he was with us at all.Ronaldo was brilliant in the air here his first time around. I still think that header against roma is the best ive ever seen.
Or are we just discounting him because he's such a freak rather than the norm?
So many posts before Cavani is mentioned! ShockingCavani
He has scored 50 headed goals out of his 296 goals in 467 games. Thats more than his left footed goals of which he has 47
Falcao has 30 in 292 games on whoscored
Very good shoutMarquinhos is pretty good, too.
I think we see less great headers because crosses as a "stylistic device" were less popular when the current players were in academies. In recent years we see more and more teams relying on them again when the opponent sits deep, in some cases to great success, so I guess the next generations will produce better headers on average again. Maybe even this one. Haaland is said to have improved a lot in this department this season, e. g.
Is this English? I genuinely can't understand anything after the first sentence.Callum Wilson have potential. Though injuries pretend shake. Bruce gave up booze October mum said take me leave me. Magpies feel feel quimmm back post crosses assist the owners to rock snoop bullets. In all honesty, culturally inappropriate head dress werks the loins of most strikers and Shera Hite wants D. MURPHY'S suprapreposterous hope.
Thought about him by the way. He's very good in terms of his heading technique, but the lack of the goalscoring instinct works against him.Morata
This one is way to good. I spent the last 5 minutes laughing like a moronCallum Wilson have potential. Though injuries pretend shake. Bruce gave up booze October mum said take me leave me. Magpies feel feel quimmm back post crosses assist the owners to rock snoop bullets. In all honesty, culturally inappropriate head dress werks the loins of most strikers and Shera Hite wants D. MURPHY'S suprapreposterous hope.
Yes imo he has the best headers. He is the only guy I vividly recall scoring a hattrick of headers in a matchBierhoff