That's an excellent question. If news agencies such as Sky had any integrity, they'd be ripping that person apart, right now.
Ole Sack Watch
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Its a massive insult to the great man, they’re not comparable in any way.
It's because no one knows. We don't have any clue what our coaches are responsible outside of the new defensive set piece one
Not currently ….I know a lot of oppo fans and they’re forever taking the piss. They’d like nothing better than if Ole was signed up for life.
Interesting that they definitely don’t want Conte at Utd …...they say he’s a winner.
We fans need to ban this team until these owners go away. These miserable cnuts need to be DRIVEN OUT. NOTHING WILL EVER CHANGE until they're gone. I'm f-ing finished
You still confident he's a goner? Hand on heart, do you believe that the club have been speaking to other managers this week? I have a bad, bad feeling that they're not and this is all a ploy to buy Ole time to do something they can sell to the fans eg beat Spurs or Atalanta.
I think I was the only Norwegian sceptical of United appointing Solskjær back in des 2018. My feeling all the time has been that he got the job for football-romantic reasons (him being the new Ferguson and being a nice guy who knows the club etc.). He's done a lot better than I thought he would though, I have to give him that.
About your questions on Moe/Skullerud and all the goals conceded at Molde:
Moe and Skullerud didn't have large manager backgrounds either, but Moe was Ole's assistant at both his times at the club actually (2010-14 + 2015-18), so I'm guessing he has learned a thing or two from Ole. Moe is doing well with Molde at the moment, having an intense fight with Bodø/Glimt in the title race).
Skullerud previous job before the Molde time was as coach for Norway U-21. He won the league and the national cup with Molde in his first season(2014), but got sacked the year later (aug 2015) after some bad results. (Even though Solskjærs results in 2016 was worse than Moe's in 2015, this article is stating that: https://www.vg.no/sport/fotball/i/328kv/skullerud-om-molde-avskjeden-en-helt-haaploes-beslutning). It both shows that Solskjærs results (start of season - august) in 2016 was worse than Skullerud in the same timeperiod in 2015, and Skullerud implying that Solskjær maybe was keeping his job due to his standing in Molde.
It's not normal for big teams (league winners in Norway) to concede a lot of goals:
(The stats below are from Ole's three whole seasons at his second period: 2016-2018)
2016: Rosenborg (league winners) conceded 25 goals, Molde conceded 42
2017: Rosenborg (league winners) conceded 20 goals, Molde conceded 35
2018: Rosenborg (league winners) conceded 24 goals, Molde conceded 36
Ole didn't win a single trophy at his second time at Molde, even though as I said in my previous post that he had one of the best squads and Norwegian millionare Kjell Inge Røkke providing the team with a lot of money. Molde's homeground is called "Røkkeløkka" meaning "Røkkeground" by the locals there, showing how important the millionare has been for the club over the years.
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Match going fans are far too lenient. Just don’t get it at all they should be the ones demanding the highest of standards. It’s the complete opposite.
This thread is such an echo chamber
Maybe it's just me, but I'm not discussing anything United outside this forum. There's no point, we are easy targets for windups and the oppos posting here are most lame and obvious.
Time for us to have a thick skin. We know what needs to be done, and time is on our side. Eventually Ole and his clown posse with get shit-canned and we can get back to winning ways.
Beggars belief, seriously. Someone who gives us "history lesson" conveniently ignores the fact what SAF achieved prior to managing United. After watching one of the greatest managers of all time winning trophies for over 20 years, some of our fans came to the conclusion that any random dude can do the same if he is given 5 years...... Just mental.
This is a forum for Manchester united. Of course it is an echo chamber because anyone who thinks he still deserves the job isn't thinking what is best for the club.
Neither have I and it's the reason I think Ole is going to be given another nine or so lives. If the standards so far this season have been accepted there's absolutely no hope of him being sacked unless we're battling relegation. Someone else said on here that our board probably just have a glance at Livescore during and after our games and once we're in reach of the top four they're appeased. Honestly doesn't sound too far from the horrifying truth.
To add to that our manager is surrounded by his best mates who evidently hold no accountability between them.
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If you don't like it then leave. We're taking about United, what other possible topic will dominate right now?
Besides, you're the one that repeatedly posted pictures of Ole whilst teams had our pants down.
Really shocked he wasn't given his matching orders on Monday morning.
Why we want to keep hold of him makes no sense.
Why we want to keep hold of him makes no sense.
“3 years of excuses and it’s still crap… ta ra Fergie” read the banner held aloft as Manchester United fell to a home defeat to Crystal Palace in December 1989.
That loss was part of a calamitous 11-match winless league run that stretched from November to February, ratcheting up the pressure on manager Alex Ferguson.
The Scot had shone as Aberdeen manager but big spending had yet to bring results following his arrival at Old Trafford in 1986.
United slumped home in 13th place in the First Division during the 1989-90 season, but the FA Cup brought some much-needed respite – and provided the catalyst to an unprecedented era of success.
Now please dont take this as a Ole comment, its not. The situations are nearly identical, its a amusing look into the past. Please don't get offended.
That loss was part of a calamitous 11-match winless league run that stretched from November to February, ratcheting up the pressure on manager Alex Ferguson.
The Scot had shone as Aberdeen manager but big spending had yet to bring results following his arrival at Old Trafford in 1986.
United slumped home in 13th place in the First Division during the 1989-90 season, but the FA Cup brought some much-needed respite – and provided the catalyst to an unprecedented era of success.
Now please dont take this as a Ole comment, its not. The situations are nearly identical, its a amusing look into the past. Please don't get offended.
This thread is such an echo chamber
Huge insult to Sir Alex to compare him to Ole. I guess we should just play James Wilson up front and eventually he'll bang 42 goals in for us because Ronaldo once did.
I VC don’t think the board have any intention of sacking him.
Sorry, but comparing OGS to arguably the greatest football manager in the history of the sport is frankly laughable
Except they're not really are they.
You are the most delusional person I've ever seen and I watched inception recently
Many of you on here are all so unbelievably dramatic it’s unreal. I never ever once said ole is comparable to SAF. If you can’t see the similarities in the situations then that’s up to you. I’m not for one second suggesting this time it’s going to go the same way, merely making the point that Ole can and I hope come back from this. No drama intended
I'm not. Im just pointing out that the criticism is identical. Its a historical curiosity is all.Sorry, but comparing OGS to arguably the greatest football manager in the history of the sport is frankly laughable
I specifically wrote its not a comment on Ole, its a curiosity.
3 years without a trophy, winless, fans angry. Theyre very similar to the comments in the article. Im not implying anything besides what was written.
Oh yeah, totally identical.
Bringing up Fergie's start in a way to defend Ole in 2021, after we've just been thrashed 5-0 at home to Liverpool is beyond deluded. I thought Ronaldo fanboys were weird, Ole ones are another level.
Yeah just listening to him on today's Talk of the Devils pod released just now. Someone in The Athletic wrote this article (I think someone made a thread on it here) about are ran by a bunch of people learning on the job from Woodward, Arnold, Ole and McKenna. Mitten just rambled on comparing it to others hiring with little experience like Real with Zidane and Barca hiring Pep. Then rambling about blame being passed around everyone. I like Mitten hes a good at what he does, he has many good sources but he's talks like he doesn't want to lose them.
I worry for you, because i've never seen someone so consistently wrong about everything. I think one of these day - you'll end up breathing down the wrong passage or something, because it's incredible how talented you are at just being wrong.
What's not identical about them?
Depends on what you mean come back. Could he prolong the agony and keep the job in the short term, it’s a possibility given that no one at the club wants to do. If you mean come back and be successful even win one league title let alone get anywhere near the achievements of SAF then no chance.
Please point out how I'm wrong.
Moyes, Van Gaal, and Mourinho should all have stayed if we are to give every manager as long as Sir Alex regardless of what happens on the pitch.
One of the biggest clubs in the world, finished second place with the previous manager to finish... second place with the new manager in 3 and a half years, with the addition of spending 500 million and getting less points, dour football, no prior history of success. The situations are nearly identical, true.
Why bother with one person's opinion if we know it's that bad. Let him do him and forget it.
3 years without a trophy
spent big
struggling to win
Fans clamoring for the firing of the manager.
The article from 1989 and todays situation is nearly identical. There is no deeper meaning behind a look back in history. No assumption that Ole will take us forther, no comparison to Sir Alex. Its just a look at history and compare that to whats happening this week.
Its not a comment on Ole.
At least you're going down fighting with the sinking ship
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