A serial winner who demands transfers to win. He isn’t getting that until the summer so his excellence is diminished until he does. He doesn’t go in and make players great, he’s ruthless.
It’s shit timing all round from both parties
Would you take Conte at United?
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It’s shit timing all round from both parties
And then get Rodgers, serial bottler but hey, he's british and a "progressive" manager. Will be a yes man too, so ticks all the boxes. The perfect fit, lacks a bit of "United DNA" so we can have Giggs as the assistant coach.
Yeah, I don’t think we would see any of that happen.
So Kane for Lukaku swap in January?
Conte loves Rom!Nope. I think we should move on from Ole, but don't see Conte as the ideal replacement.
Although for the rest of this season it will not make a huge difference as we are already out of contention for the league. That's why I think we can afford to wait until the end of the season if it means getting our preferred manager.
This. I'm not mad for Conte given the baggage he potentially brings but this is entirely correct. Under him, this squad would challenge for the title 100%.
This is going to be brilliant. The possibly best four coaches in the world will be working in the Premier League, and none of them would coaching United.
Absolutely.
He'll get hold of Lloris, Kane, Ali, Dier, Son.. they still have excellent players.
I'd take Conte over Ole for the next couple of season's if it's an Ole or Conte choice. We're pretty poor for a club of our size. Look at Barca, appointed a club legend, it went badly, so they respond.
Look at us, hoping we play well against City. And what if we do? What if we do not?
It makes no difference.....
Who would give more guarantee to make the team better without transfers? And why would we assume that he couldn't work with our current squad?
Basically if all this ends with us going into next season with a manager I like (like Ten Hag) then I'll swallow it.
If it ends with us going into next season with a manager I dislike (like Rodgers) then I will be both massively annoyed by that appointment and yet more annoyed that we threw away a season when there was a top level manager available at the start of November.
If it ends with us going into next season with a manager I dislike (like Rodgers) then I will be both massively annoyed by that appointment and yet more annoyed that we threw away a season when there was a top level manager available at the start of November.
Exactly.Without hardly any spending power,he built a terrific team.And Spurs didn’t have one great,fluky season like Leicester city…They we’re very good for 4-5 seasons,he did a terrific job at Tottenham…
Swollow what? The season dies the day we decide to keep him.
Come back to me when Levy sells Kane and Conte walks.
I am willing to take any bet, with anyone on here, that if we get Ten Hag in the summer (the so-called long term appointment), he won’t be at the club for longer than three years.
There’s a third nightmare scenario: the board keeps faith in Ole and we go into next season with him.
A move to Tottenham for him would be devastating for me. I have never wanted a manager more than I want him here. Makes so much sense on so many levels.
Not sure why he is going to Tottenham of all clubs anyway. I'm convinced he is capable of getting the best out of their current squad, but it is Tottenham, and a better job for him could easily become available soon.
Not sure why he is going to Tottenham of all clubs anyway. I'm convinced he is capable of getting the best out of their current squad, but it is Tottenham, and a better job for him could easily become available soon.
Three problems with that:
1. Ten Hag might turn out to be a massive failure
2. He might not even want to come here
3. This season is wasted, might even miss out on top 4 as it stands. In fact, there is a very big chance of that.
We're not playing Football Manager. We're at a very high risk to be sent even further behind than we currently even are.
Yeah,finishing in the top 4,season after season with hardly any spending power was a “ok” job….No,he won the French cup last season….PSG are 8 points clear in the league right now…
Swallow this season being written off. I won't like it, but at least if we're going into next season with a manager I rate I will at that point be more optimistic for the future than annoyed by the past.
Whereas if they hire a manager I don't rate then it will just compound however bad this season is.
I couldn’t see Mourinho going to Spurs too.…
I bet you €1,000,000.
Pick a realistic number and let’s do it. I’m willing to do up to 10k
Bigger picture. Pogba, VDB, Cavani, Matic, Lingard and probably Telles and Bailly are now gone.
We lack creativity from the middle of the park and we have failed to qualify for the Champions League. We are yet again with a manager like Ten Hag 3 years away from winning a title.
He needs to go asap for the future of this team.
So you just automatically assume Conte won't win with us, but somehow Ten Hag will. The guy who has won league titles with 3 teams in 2 different leagues is a worse option than someone who has never managed outside of Eridivise?
Paratici's there at Tottenham and Conte already worked with him at Juventus so Paratici is probably a guarantee to Conte that he'd be backed up properly in transfer windows and in general.
Get off your computer.
1. Agree, though that's the same (to varying degrees of risk) with every manager.
2) Also agree, though I suspect he'd only turn us down if he felt he was likely to get another top level job like City within the next while.
3) Agree again, there's a massive risk of that.
Basically I'm saying I hate the idea of writing off this season by sticking with a manager who isn't good enough. If we ultimately end up with a manager I like, I'll realistically care less at that point as I'll be more optimistic about the future. But if we end up with a manager I dislike, then it will just make writing-off this season all the worse. And the fact that we didn't act when there was a top level replacement available will seem worse again in hindsight.
Which is the more likely scenario?
I think Ten Hag is better suited to gradually improve us over time. Our best chance to win will be when Guardiola and Klopp leave their clubs, and Conte won't last that long.
Just clocked he's going to Spurs.
Came here for the meltdown..
Came here for the meltdown..
BREAKING: Antonio Conte has been offered an 18-month contract by Tottenham, according to Sky in Italy.
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If we are bing realistic unless Conte is an actual target for the club there is no point sacking Ole and the fans will most likely have to waith until 23-24 for a good manager to be available. Hopefully Guardiola extends and City aren't a competition for managers.
I think I'm happier not thinking about either of these points.
Yes, but some managers carry less risk. The likes of Guardiola, Klopp, Conte, etc have very little chance to fail. They might, but it is not remotely the same as hiring a manager that has very little to his CV like Ten Hag does. He might turn into a flop like De Boer. We have to keep in mind that Ajax are a very well oiled machine in a league they vastly dwarf in terms of resources.
I mean given our squad, our best chance to win is actually right now with Antonio Conte. Ten Hag isn't suited to it at all.
Why, he isn't used to the way United work and United unlike Ajax don't have a tactical approach that is built into the academy?
I think it’s Rodgers to be honest. Would tie in with our board wanting PL experience. We’ve made a huge mistake in not sacking Ole straight after Liverpool and getting Conte in.
So he's on a plane heading towards a rival team with the contract all but signed...any chance Ferdinand is about to post a gurning giff?
I bet the owners love fans who just want to be in top 4 while Klopp and Pep are at the helm. Absolutely amazed to hear this from fans of a club who had Fergie in their lifetime and who went head to head with an open cheque book backed prime Jose and came out on top. I am lost for words. Tuchel has come in and Chelsea look like real favorites but hey let's wait till all top managers leave the PL so that some nobody can win us the league.
I assume you are also fine when the Board takes out dividends and pay loans which they put on us instead of buying top players because you aren't anyway expecting us to win anything currently, right?
yay we can close this thread
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