bosnian_red
Worst scout to ever exist
He'd score 50 plus per year and they'd for sure win the CL IMO. Thank feck he didn't go there.He must be regretting not joining City. Which makes me really sad.
He'd score 50 plus per year and they'd for sure win the CL IMO. Thank feck he didn't go there.He must be regretting not joining City. Which makes me really sad.
You're back! Must be one of the games where Ronaldo doesn't score.Every player gets a shouting at in the performance thread except Ronaldo - simply because he scores the goals.
Today he didn't score the goals and when he didn't do that - his rest of gameplay isnt good enough either.
He scores the goals but we are weaker as a team because we are very reliant on one player to get the goals much more than ever.
The way that Ronaldo needs to receive the ball to score a goal is different to how Rashford, Greenwood or even Sancho or Martial needs to score a goal.
Whipping crosses, wonderful volleys with his eyes closed - only really Ronaldo can do it; can Rashford,Greenwood or Sancho score Ronaldo's goal vs Tottenham? I don't think so - not as regularly as The GOAT can do it. We have changed the way we play so that Ronaldo is our main goalscorer to the point he is our only goalscorer.
I still believe it, its like playing a jeep upfront with a bunch of cars but ultimately that's the average managers management.
Everyone on the pitch was poor today except De Gea.
I love his goals and his last minute one's.
Let's see if we find a manager who can balance Ronaldo in the middle with Rashford, Greenwood and Sancho because that sounds easier said on paper than it does in reality.
Ps look at the Messi Vs Ronaldo thread to see how much I love the guy, I still belive tactically it can be a problem.
I don't know if he isn't a player for any top team but he's certainly not a player for City, they're pressing with 10 players and that's part of one makes them so good, having Ronaldo would totally mess up with their tactics.He isn't a player for a top team now, City dodged a bullet.
Exactly! Did you miss me?You're back! Must be one of the games where Ronaldo doesn't score.
Mason Greenwood played today. I know you were probably questioning that at some point, as I was, but he did really play.
Mason had a good chance to score on the rebound of a Ronaldo shot, but wasn't quick enough or precise enough and flubbed it badly.
I think he took another shot from about 50 yards back that slowly rolled wide.
Anyway he was there.
My god some people have insane standards, indeed.I tentatively believe Ronaldo is no longer close to being one of the worlds top forwards, but I refuse to rubberstamp any opinion on any player until Ole is gone.
Absolutely, anyone who thinks he could do the role Jesus did today is delusional.I don't know if he isn't a player for any top team but he's certainly not a player for City, they're pressing with 10 players and that's part of one makes them so good, having Ronaldo would totally mess up with their tactics.
The difference is Pep is a top coach and Ole possibly isn't even a coach at all.I don't know if he isn't a player for any top team but he's certainly not a player for City, they're pressing with 10 players and that's part of one makes them so good, having Ronaldo would totally mess up with their tactics.
Clowns will be on here doing the same all season, then disappearing as his goal tally increases to our highest striker tally in a decade.Are people questioning Ronaldo? Take away his goals this year and see where we are and then ask what the problem is again.
Why would they? Liverpool already have a Salah who will score 50 goals while also work hard and they’re not guarantee for CLHe'd score 50 plus per year and they'd for sure win the CL IMO. Thank feck he didn't go there.
I tend to skip your posts -- too long and repetitive -- but I did read the last one and this one.Exactly! Did you miss me?
People blame Greenwood's performance but not really Ronaldo's when they were both strikers both needing assistance.
The way Greenwood needs assistance is different to Ronaldo's because they are two different strikers aswell and they ultimately got none of it and yet Greenwood gets blame but not Ronaldo.
I do find that a bit weird.
The way would go against his whole team ethos and imbalance his first 11 sort of like Ibra at Barcelona.The difference is Pep is a top coach and Ole possibly isn't even a coach at all.
Pep would find a way to maximise with Ronaldo in there, which is why they were gutted not to get him, despite all the subsequent PR.
I highly doubt Pep was gutted because he didn't get Ronaldo, he would have needed to change everything he has built at City just for him, i'm not convinced he really liked the idea.The difference is Pep is a top coach and Ole possibly isn't even a coach at all.
Pep would find a way to maximise with Ronaldo in there, which is why they were gutted not to get him, despite all the subsequent PR.
They will miss out when it comes to the big moments through having no striker. It's already cost them a few times this season, and inevitably it eventually costs them in Europe.The way would go against his whole team ethos and imbalance his first 11 sort of like Ibra at Barcelona.
City are a better team than Liverpool but lack an actual world class goalscorer. Put Salah/Ronaldo/Haaland/Lewandowski there and it'd be the same thing. Ok not a guarantee, but far bigger favourites. And Ronaldo above all those is the ultimate big moment player in world football, especially in the CL, so it'd probably happen more so than if one of the others were there.Why would they? Liverpool already have a Salah who will score 50 goals while also work hard and they’re not guarantee for CL
If he's not a CF Ruud van Nistelrooy isn't one either. Bizarre statement to make after a game where we didn't get out of our own half.Still not a centre forward.
The problem with Ibra was they had Messi, so they couldn't have a 2nd guy not do much defensively and be a focal point in attack. At City they don't have a focal point in attack. Ronaldo would make a world of difference there.The way would go against his whole team ethos and imbalance his first 11 sort of like Ibra at Barcelona.
How did you find Ronaldo's offside run on to Wan Bissaka's inverted fullback run and pass?I tend to skip your posts -- too long and repetitive -- but I did read the last one and this one.
Ronaldo was present in the game today, Greenwood was really hard to spot.
I've said elsewhere that Ole is going to ruin the academy players and Greenwood was one of the ones I was thinking of. Ronaldo knows what needs to be done -- you can see him directing play and moving into spots where someone needs to be. Greenwood isn't doing that. Really he shouldn't have to do that, someone should be telling him what he has to do and they're apparently not. But Ronaldo is a good player even if he doesn't score or assist, Greenwood not so much.
But the system is not the same if everyone but one player can press. You literally have to be Ronaldo or Messi of 2013 to justify not doing so which no current player including the aforementioned currently are.The problem with Ibra was they had Messi, so they couldn't have a 2nd guy not do much defensively and be a focal point in attack. At City they don't have a focal point in attack. Ronaldo would make a world of difference there.
Yes but Liverpool and Bayern already have world class goalscorers who already work hard for the team, City might be less of a team with a goal scoring number 9 who can’t drop deep link up play, act as a foil for others and pressure opposing defenders. They’ve already had this issue with Aguero of yesteryear, he was a great goal scorer but didn’t play till he could buy into Guardiolas ethos, and even then they weren’t sweeping all the trophies. The likes of Salah Lewandowski Benzema Kane are much more than just goalscorers..City are a better team than Liverpool but lack an actual world class goalscorer. Put Salah/Ronaldo/Haaland/Lewandowski there and it'd be the same thing. Ok not a guarantee, but far bigger favourites. And Ronaldo above all those is the ultimate big moment player in world football, especially in the CL, so it'd probably happen more so than if one of the others were there.
Kane over couple years ago was actually someone who did press a lot, this is why he worked so well under Poch, he pressed as well as score and created goals. Agree with your point City lack a ruthless edge but again Kane was their number one target for a reason as opposing to someone like Lukaku who also scores a lot of goals.They will miss out when it comes to the big moments through having no striker. It's already cost them a few times this season, and inevitably it eventually costs them in Europe.
This is why Kane, who is hardly a pressing machine, Messi and Ronaldo were in his thoughts this summer, and didn't get any.
Right so all the time city were in for him they had no clue about his pressing or lack thereof.I don't know if he isn't a player for any top team but he's certainly not a player for City, they're pressing with 10 players and that's part of one makes them so good, having Ronaldo would totally mess up with their tactics.
Anyone who thinks having a poorer striker who presses more is better than a far more clinical striker who doesn't press doesn't have an iota of football tacitcal knowledge.Absolutely, anyone who thinks he could do the role Jesus did today is delusional.
Apparently City weren't even in for him according to some. They would rather believe the City PR spin than Pep actually coming out and saying that it is Ronaldo's decision where he wants to go.Right so all the time city were in for him they had no clue about his pressing or lack thereof.
Again too long. Didn't finish the post.How did you find Ronaldo's offside run on to Wan Bissaka's inverted fullback run and pass?
Miss timed his run but he doesn make those runs and score those goals anymore - I think he did on his first or 2nd match here.
The other goals are absolutely wonderful volleys and poachers instinct goals- but building a team towards that whilst utilising Greenwood and Rashford and Sancho is difficult.
Our creative game this season is much more about high level crosses like the one we saw vs Spurs.
Did we do that when Martial was our striker? When Rashford and Greenwood were our inverted forwards?
Again - I value his goals, always have and always will; but the people that think that Ronaldo, Rashford, Greenwood, Sancho is a well blended machine with potential is going to have to convince me how that's going to happen.
You can't have Lindelof passing balls to Rashford's first goal post injury when Ronaldo can't do that anymore. You can't have Bruno Fernandes whipping crosses like he did vs Spurs when Rashford and Greenwood can't head the ball never mind volley the ball to the standard of C Ronaldo.
I'm not sitting here angry at Ronaldo- because again I value his goals and he is my favourite player on GOAT levels - but I'm sitting here open minded that he can cause a tactical imbalance - that I still have not been unconvinced by just because he scores important wonderful goals - because ultimately that is who he is now. The main and most likely goalscorer of United.
The United that used to have Bruno, Greenwood, Rashford, Cavani, Martial sharing goals across their line isn't happening anymore - the goals are primarily coming from C Ronaldo. The way we play has changed to accommodate that.
Anyway, talking about C Ronaldo hurts people's feelings.
Every single player got some hate today on player performances. Every single player.
People came here after the match and started polishing up Ronaldo's performance which was poor as every single other player. There is no it's but's or could have's - it ultimately did not happen.
Yeah, and you're not at all believing the United PR spin. Ronaldo was offered to several club weeks before he joined United, if City wanted him that bad they would have signed him earlier, he was just a back up plan for Harry Kane, that's pretty obvious.Apparently City weren't even in for him according to some. They would rather believe the City PR spin than Pep actually coming out and saying that it is Ronaldo's decision where he wants to go.
You must be referring to Guardiola who was benching a clinical for Aguero for Jesus.Anyone who thinks having a poorer striker who presses more is better than a far more clinical striker who doesn't press doesn't have an iota of football tacitcal knowledge.
Let alone one of the best, most clinical, finishers in the world.
It's like worrying about fuel milage on your new Ferrari.
Atalanta. 3 days ago. You're wrong.He will bag goals when we dominate games and create chances. He won't score a goal against Liverpool or City for example.
Atalanta aren’t a top side by any stretch. We don’t have the quality or the coach to dominate a top side or even to stand toe to toe with them. We will be out of possession for the majority of those games and therefore Ronaldo will be less effective...albeit that his ability means he doesn’t have to be effective to decide a game...he will just come up with something. Downside is we might be well out of the game before he does (ie. his goal against Liverpool)Atalanta. 3 days ago. You're wrong.
Jeez.
Atalanta is fifth in Serie A and in no way comparable or remotely close to being as good as Manchester City. Ronaldo won't score against City or Liverpool unless something drastic changes in our play or with a new manager.Atalanta. 3 days ago. You're wrong.
Jeez.
Atalanta aren’t a top side by any stretch. We don’t have the quality or the coach to dominate a top side or even to stand toe to toe with them. We will be out of possession for the majority of those games and therefore Ronaldo will be less effective...albeit that his ability means he doesn’t have to be effective to decide a game...he will just come up with something. Downside is we might be well out of the game before he does (ie. his goal against Liverpool)
OK, you're right. It's harder to score against better teams, even for Ronaldo.Atalanta is fifth in Serie A and in no way comparable or remotely close to being as good as Manchester City. Ronaldo won't score against City or Liverpool unless something drastic changes in our play or with a new manager.
The difference between aguero and Jesus pales when compared to ronaldo. Its like dumping your accelerating bmw for a reliable Toyota.You must be referring to Guardiola who was benching a clinical for Aguero for Jesus.