Ole Sack Watch

Should we replace the manager ?

  • Yes - Its time to make a change

    Votes: 3,004 87.8%
  • No - Give him more time

    Votes: 449 13.1%

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Buchan

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As desperate as I am for us to sack Ole, these endless screenshots of him smiling amidst defeat are nearly all fake.

  • The 0-5 Liverpool screenshot is from a pre-match interview with the final score photoshopped over.
  • The 0-2 Man City screenshot is also fake as his post match interview was outside on the pitch and so the same as above.
  • The one of him on the bench with Carrick today is of such poor quality, yet such a high resolution that it makes me believe it has been doctored this way to cover for mediocre photoshopping.
Yes, Ole does annoyingly smile when he shouldn't at the end of a bad result (the Everton draw comes to mind), but these recent ones are lies and not even Ole deserves this when he is doing enough to earn the sack all by himself.
I watched a post-match interview yesterday when a female interviewer on a foreign broadcast quizzed him on the lack of belief in the squad (apparently Maguire had said it to her in a separate interview after the match) and Solskjaer was undoubtedly smiling in that one. I cannot find the link now and maybe someone here can locate it but he was 100% smiling and smirking in the interview.

It’s just embarrassing at this stage.

EDIT: @Nickelodeon found it:

 
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City are so evil.

They kept it at 2-0 so Ole keeps his job.

I genuinely think this is true.
 

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It's always hilarious to see Jose fans trying to rewrite history, coming up with "it's understandable why he set up defensively" as if he was ever attacking manager.

End of the day, Jose was Shit, Ole is shit. So was Van Gaal. We hired pile of shit as managers after SAF.
First of all, I only said Jose was much better when compared to Ole and it’s a fact if you compare the squad at their disposal and the stats under them (Just remove the name “Jose” with “X” and you will also agree with this). I never said that Jose and United were a match or that Jose shouldn’t have been sacked.

And I am not someone who pretends to forget history just because I hate someone or his methods. Jose’s team did play attacking football when he was at Real and at times at Chelsea. It depends on the team he has and the opponent. I didn’t like his methods at United. But as I said, I understand why he opted for it. Yes, Playing a high line with Jones, Smalling, Bailly, Valencia, Young and Co., Yea… good luck with that. And remember? he had Martial as his forward. And he wanted to sell him and buy a better one. But our fans and our board were strongly against him on that one. Where is martial now? What is he worth now? Who was right on that one? And how about Pogba?

You appoint any manager and give him the players suitable for his method and his demand or else don’t appoint him.

This is not a Jose thread and we have had plenty. So, End of..
 
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A lot of fans reactions was needed yesterday but still some clapped for him. The board has totally no respect for the fans at all. Our club has lost its dignity big time, If you look at our games this season at our home no such club would accept that, big or small. And still no news about any thing or any decision from the board.
Why should the board respect fans who applaud a 7-0 scoreline? The respect you get depends on the level of crap you are willing to tolerate and when you tolerate a 5-0 mauling from Liverpool then you have shown the board how elastic you can be and they don't take you seriously.
 
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I used to oppose this opinion and thought he was just average. But the more I reflect on this city game, the set up, the length of time it took to change it, these kind of decisions wouldn’t even be made by an average manager. It’s absolutely shocking that we set up today like that. I’m getting more angry thinking back at it. He knew city don’t play with a centre forward yet he went with a back three. He knows we have hurt city on the break with pace and he played zero pace in the team today. If this shit was going on with Mourinho there’d be riots.
He's a cowardly manager with very limited tactical acumen, that much has been clear for a long time. I'd have fired his arse after Leipzig away, a game in which he decided an ultra defensive back 7 was the secret to keeping it tight and sneaking the draw we needed in order to advance. Instead his tactics were utterly exposed by Nagelsmann's side within 15 minutes, we could have been 5 down by half time. These cowardly dog shit tactics saw us dumped into the EL despite having had a great start to our CL campaign and it looking impossible for us not to advance, only Ole could have fecked that up. Let's not forget that he'd already fecked up the PSG game when 99% of United fans were screaming with him to get Fred off the pitch as he was certain red card in waiting, Ole did feck all, Fred got sent off, we lost the game and then we responded with those cowardly stupid as feck tactics in Germany.
And his comments after the whistle in Germany were every bit as bad as Mourinho's "football heritage" as he claimed we were doing well to now be competing with the likes of Leipzig, he's a club legend though so the fanbase that went bananas at Mourinho just brushed these comments and that utter clusterfeck in Germany off.

Imagine playing 3 CB's versus a team without a CF, as Manchester United manager at home, when you have a squad that contains Ronaldo, Sancho, Fernandes, Rashford, Pogba. I wouldn't call it a disgrace, because Ole simply doesn't know better, he's always been throwing shit at a wall and hoping it sticks. So many fans have bomoaned his lack of a cohesive plan and knew it'd soon bite us in the ass, yet "patterns of play" etc have been ridiculed by those trying to pretend that 68 points, 68 points, 74 points after spending an incredible sum of money was "progress".
 
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Doesn't matter. They all failed, they all failed to even challenge for league.

It's like argument between McT and Fred, who is more shit.
Fair enough if you think so, I still preferred grabbing some trophies and going into EL final knowing we’d win and in fact doing so rather than heading into the EL final thinking we’d play defensive shit and ultimately losing
 

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I watched a post-match interview yesterday when a female interviewer on a foreign broadcast quizzed him on the lack of belief in the squad (apparently Maguire had said it to her in a separate interview after the match) and Solskjaer was undoubtedly smiling in that one. I cannot find the link now and maybe someone here can locate it but he was 100% smiling and smirking in the interview.

It’s just embarrassing at this stage.
 

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But why would the club have any respect for fans if our own fans have no respect for the remaining fans either? For the last 2 years anyone who dared to say a negative word about Ole and our shambolic performances, was quickly silenced by Ole's cultists here which we had plenty of at the time. Our fanbase is partly responsible of the shite we are going through, that nonsense about United DNA or rebuilding jobs would never ever fly at any other big club but we happily support that crap.
THIS. I was one of them who were against giving Ole a permanent contract. I was even suspended for 2 or 3 days for comparing Ole to a PE teacher. Most of our fan base and the mods in here also played their part in this shit show.
 

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Does Gary still have inside knowledge of Man Utd and its dealings? Looks like he is preemptively giving reasons to sack Ole like it could happen.
 

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Doesn't matter. They all failed, they all failed to even challenge for league.

It's like argument between McT and Fred, who is more shit.
It’s more like the argument between Fred, McTominay and Pereira, to be fair. All three are bad, but one of them is in a level of its own bad.
 

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Oh, for sure, but we still need a good one because the season is still salvageable. Just being better than Ole isn't enough.
It won't be by the time the board act thought. Mid table with 0 chance of champion league and put of europe this season. Not just wasting this year but wasting next as well. The whole structure is a shambles.
 

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THIS. I was one of them who were against giving Ole a permanent contract. I was even suspended for 2 or 3 days for comparing Ole to a Ole Ole Ole I love you. Most of our fan base and the mods in here also played their part in this shit show.
Like a propaganda state, our board has succeeded in dividing the fanbase.

While handing out bans for this is ridiculous, the fans should support the team when we were on a marginal upward trajectory in the previous season. It is the job of the owners to take swift and correct decisions. I’m sure that the Chelsea fans would also have been divided last season when they were struggling under Lampard. But when the board took a decision to replace him with Tuchel, the same fans were united in applauding what was a masterstroke of a decision. Our board is cowardly and petrified. So afraid of making yet another poor call that they aren’t taking any action. The sorry excuse for ex players are just compounding the misery.
 

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Does Gary still have inside knowledge of Man Utd and its dealings? Looks like he is preemptively giving reasons to sack Ole like it could happen.
The only complication in the situation at United, Gaz, is your utter and complete refusal to accept Solskjaer is actively harming our club and should be relieved of his duties immediately, and your very public and influential failure to admit this is compounding that damage further.
 

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Does Gary still have inside knowledge of Man Utd and its dealings? Looks like he is preemptively giving reasons to sack Ole like it could happen.
I would expect Ed's mentality to be let me sort this shit out before I leave. It's like leaving your kids a house you know is about to crumble.
That Ed is leaving in a few weeks is a poor excuse for indecision. Especially when he's been replaced by an internal appointment
 

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THIS. I was one of them who were against giving Ole a permanent contract. I was even suspended for 2 or 3 days for comparing Ole to a Ole Ole Ole I love you. Most of our fan base and the mods in here also played their part in this shit show.
:lol: True. Being banned for posting "Ole's at the wheel, tell me how does it feel" (literally just that) is my top memory of my time here.
 

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If anything that statement from Gary, assuming he's ITK, just throws Arnold under the bus since he's been appointed by the same stooges who allow Woody to pull this type of shit.
 

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He hasn't been sacked because of a goal scored 20 odd years ago. That is the only reason, and the only reason he was given the job. It is a stupid way to run a club.
 

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This is the reason, woody final present

Is that Neville's twitter handle? That seems to imply that he agrees Ole should be sacked but Woody is a dick for not doing so as he fecked up by handing out 3 year contracts just months ago.
 

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Why should the board respect fans who applaud a 7-0 scoreline? The respect you get depends on the level of crap you are willing to tolerate and when you tolerate a 5-0 mauling from Liverpool then you have shown the board how elastic you can be and they don't take you seriously.
yes shame.
 

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I just wish I could understand the reasoning for keeping Ole in. It makes no logical sense. Even the pro Trump and anti vax movement have some valid points. At this point its more flat earth belief logic. Are they sitting in Old Trafford with tin hats waiting for an Alien space ship to help Ole? At this point this is the only thing that makes sense. Ole must have created a **** within Old Trafford and they we will have to get the SWAT teams in.
 

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What do they back Ole for? Securing our place as Meme FC?
Because they're cowards. I think after dealing with two massive egos in LVG and Mourinho they wanted someone that wouldn't rock the boat. In comes Ole, a guy they can keep totally under their thumb because even he knows a Molde manager has no place at Manchester United. He is their perfect yes man. Its the reason why coaches managers like Tuchel and Conte who have history of not taking shit from the board were snubbed. They will never find another guy that eats out of their hands like Ole does, so they are desperate to hold on to him.
 

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Since our 2 losses and embarrassment at home, 2 managers have been sacked and not 1 has been Solskjær… why?! Norwich have just sacked a manager after winning a game ffs! As for Gary Neville, he sacks managers all the time at Salford! If anyone but Solskjær was in charge of united then Neville would want them out… if he was being sacked would it happen today or Monday morning? Don’t we normally sack managers through the week and when they go into training? Don’t get why it couldn’t of been done on the same night like Norwich did… spurs sacked nuno a couple days later though didn’t they?
 

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Dead man walking playing zombie football for most of his tenure. Best period was when he was caretaker manager and the first 12 weeks of Brunos arrival.

They should go ahead and do this. It’s not gonna get better.
 

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I just wish I could understand the reasoning for keeping Ole in. It makes no logical sense. Even the pro Trump and anti vax movement have some valid points. At this point its more flat earth belief logic. Are they sitting in Old Trafford with tin hats waiting for an Alien space ship to help Ole? At this point this is the only thing that makes sense. Ole must have created a **** within Old Trafford and they we will have to get the SWAT teams in.
1. The board still believe he's the right man; or
2. The board have finally come to the realisation that this isn't going anywhere however because they gave him a 3 year contract a few months ago, they feel like sacking him would be embarrassing
 

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First of all, I only said Jose was much better when compared to Ole and it’s a fact if you compare the squad at their disposal and the stats under them (Just remove the name “Jose” with “X” and you will also agree with this). I never said that Jose and United were a match or that Jose shouldn’t have been sacked.

And I am not someone who pretends to forget history just because I hate someone or his methods. Jose’s team did play attacking football when he was at Real and at times at Chelsea. It depends on the team he has and the opponent. I didn’t like his methods at United. But as I said, I understand why he opted for it. Yes, Playing a high line with Jones, Smalling, Bailly, Valencia, Young and Co., Yea… good luck with that. And remember? he had Martial as his forward. And he wanted to sell him and buy a better one. But our fans and our board were strongly against him on that one. Where is martial now? What is he worth now? Who was right on that one? And how about Pogba?

You appoint any manager and give him the players suitable for his method and his demand or else don’t appoint him.

This is not a Jose thread and we have had plenty. So, End of..
Jose's major signings
Lindelof
Bailly
Lukaku
Pogba
Matic
Sanchez

There quite some legacy he left. You say he wanted to replace martial? He did with lukaku and sanchez, he also signed 2 Centre backs then demanded 80 million for another one, oh and spent 90 million pogba just to end up complaining about him. Then threw his toys out of the pram and left us with a shit show of a squad that needed an overhaul.

Say what you what about a couple of second rate trophies the squad he left behind was miles behind the one we currently have.

Ole has successfully improved the squad considerably, ultimately his limitations are now holding us up, not the squads limitations but he has managed to keep us in the top 4 and couple of decent cup runs while doing so.

Mourinhio won trophies but set us back, Ole hasn't won trophies but we are on the right track now squad wise, its not gonna take another re-build its gonna take the right managerial appointment.
 

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Does Gary still have inside knowledge of Man Utd and its dealings? Looks like he is preemptively giving reasons to sack Ole like it could happen.
He's just making stuff up now.

It's been reported recently that Woodward is staying in till March/April now so this about to leave stuff is crap.
 

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He hasn't been sacked because of a goal scored 20 odd years ago. That is the only reason, and the only reason he was given the job. It is a stupid way to run a club.
I doubt it. We were also very slow to sack Mourinho and LvG (especially the latter).
 

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Ole has successfully improved the squad considerably, ultimately his limitations are now holding us up, not the squads limitations but he has managed to keep us in the top 4 and couple of decent cup runs while doing so.

Mourinhio won trophies but set us back, Ole hasn't won trophies but we are on the right track now squad wise, its not gonna take another re-build its gonna take the right managerial appointment.
The squad is completely unbalanced now. We have more attackers than we need and no depth in CM.
 

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What are we exactly waiting for? Is this club so fecked it can't even see its sinking halfway down the sea?
 

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I highly doubt that. This is the board that needlessly gave him a three-year extension, and previously needlessly gave him the permanent job. They are that incompetent!! Like what sane persons would want him to manage their football club besides the damn cultists at United.
I totally agree about the unnecessary contracts but to be fair the board probably bought into the fans and ex-players hyped up mentality. Rio shouting give him a contract (while Michael Owen was smirking) and all that. I heard Woodward was even singing Ole's at the wheel with fans (not sure how true this is). Ole has been backed a lot financially too, more than most. Bottom line is that it's a now a failed experiment and Ole should have some dignity and walk. Why a proper manager wasn't brought in this summer I will never understand. Probably Fergie protecting his boy.
 

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They think it’s just one big game of championship manager and united are doing well. Ed and Arnold are simply not football people, they are money people…i looked at who was on the board and I don’t see anyone there with football knowledge.
 

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City are so evil.

They kept it at 2-0 so Ole keeps his job.

I genuinely think this is true.
Interesting theory ….but if City could have beaten Utd 10-0, they would have.

Yes, there’s no denying City and other opposition love the fact Ole is still in a job.
 
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