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The Athletic: "Man Utd coaches trying Jadon Sancho as RWB"
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Hope he learnt some shit from Hakimi.
What is he going to strike? some random greek bloke in the stadium?
Haha joke coach
Sancho can never do the role Walker does, this is insanity.
If the board isn't going to sack Ole, would it be possible for them to sack ALL of his coaching staff instead and bring in competent ones? I'm absolutely fed up, I really am.
I don't believe training ground rumours.
Let's not pretend that half of Redcafe wouldn't be stroking themselves silly if Conte came in and did the same thing.
That being said, this can't be real.
That being said, this can't be real.
It’s all about passion and who wants it more. If Jadon puts the front foot he can make it happen. Let’s hope for a positive reaction, coaching stuff is brilliant.
If anything they need to stop with the ideas.
Again you cannot play Sancho as an inverted winger with Ronaldo as a striker.
Ronaldo has never played in his prime centrally and he needs a striker partner be Benzema, Rooney or Dybala.
Playing Ronaldo as a lone striker is wrong - if it was right he would have done it when he was 23 and not when he was 36.
He needs a striker partner and that's why the 3 forwards don't work with him as our main man.
We have tried Cavani and him, Rashford and him, Greenwood and him.
Who was the best result? Cavani and Ronaldo - the striker most resembling to the work ethic and passing of players like Rooney, Benzsma and dybala.
It's got nothing to do with 3 years of scouting Sancho, the random unplanned transfer was Ronaldo that we are adapting our tactics to.
I hope this is true because it will be a disaster and get Ole sacked quicker. This club is in such a fecking state.
Reeks of desperation if true 
“Boys we need to justify this £70m we spent and two years we spent also after him… We can’t have him on the bench as Joel keeps messenging me asking why he’s sitting on the bench most games…so let’s put him in a foreign position!”
“Boys we need to justify this £70m we spent and two years we spent also after him… We can’t have him on the bench as Joel keeps messenging me asking why he’s sitting on the bench most games…so let’s put him in a foreign position!”As a late ploy when we're chasing a game, alright? I sort of can get behind it. But I don't trust our inept coaching staff to achieve anything of note with our players. It's not really the answer I'd want to get him playing more, its just another bleak story to add to the list.
Proper scouting job we did there
Just about done with this club - extensions for Carrick and the clown, as well as Woodward hanging about in some capacity might put me over the edge.
How can you say this means he's bereft of ideas when this is clearly an idea? Not necessarily a good one I concede but it's certainly outside of the box thinking and could potentially work in games we are on top and need that bit extra to break defences down...
reasons like this are why di maria fecked off from here and people absolutely hate him for it. if sancho were to leave for playing out of position and not putting in effort would he be seen the same way?
This is all bollocks, they’re putting out shit to try and distract fans and get us talking about anything but the main issue. Same with that Woodward tweet about hanging around as a consultant. The club is really testing the patience of fans, completely taking the piss now.
Now hang on lads... we might be onto something here. If we retrain Sancho at RWB, then get Juan Mata operating at DM so we can pass the ball, Martial at CB to carry the ball out of defence and hey... we might be onto something...
Yeah, that's nonsense. Don't believe it for a second.
Depressing. But entirely predictable. Ole has not planned his squad at all, he's just accumulated attacking talent to drag his ass through games.
With the repeated noises about the coaching staff (understandably) unconvinced by AWB's attacking abilities, it has to be asked: Why on earth did we spend 50 million on a right-back so limited in what is arguably the most important area for the modern full-back? Did we seriously only discover his lack of attacking qualities after investing that amount of money?
Him and Maguire were absolutely awful signings.
Huh? Di Maria was tried in multiple positions because his form tailed off, if anything Louis pandered to his needs. His head was never in the game. Strange comparison.
You can flip it the other way. Why have our coaching team not been able to improve AWB ball control and attacking output in 3 years.
Just tell him to play like he's a defender for the other team.
Can we try Woodward as a janitor. He seems to have the right qualifications for the role since he's such a wasteman.
Well, whoever suggested us to sign Ronaldo shouldn't have suggested it then. If Sancho had been in the plan for so long, surely the manager and coaches know who to play him with and who to avoid. As it is it looks to me like we're just buying quality players without any idea if they'd work together and no idea on how to make them work together.
Very funny that Ole football currently is becoming one of those we hated from other managers. Hated Jose because of the dull, defensive football - Ole also plays too defensively at times, the high energy positive football from when he was an intertim has gone. Didn't want Conte because of 3 at the back, we recently played with 3 at the back. Didn't want managers that spend a lot of money and undermines youth, well Ole has done exactly that. It was all sunshine when Ole played academy players vs PSG. But now that he had the money, he bought ready made players and even worse than it being a short term planning, he also doesn't know how to make use of those players! not only Ole, the coaches are also disappointing.
Didn't Di Maria make his debut as a holding midfielder away to Burnley or have I completely made that up
One of the most productive and talented attackers in Europe. Already struggling to produce in his actual position in a poorly coached system. And they want to shift him to a role that suits him far less. Because they can't get the formation they built the squad for to function and they can't get the 50m fullback they bought in an era of attacking fullbacks to function in a more attacking role.
We're not talking about shifting a Victor Moses soon-to-be-out-the-door squad player into a wing-back role that revives his career. We're talking about shifting the 70m+ marquee signing they spent years pursuing as part of a long-term vision of their attack into a RWB after a few weeks.
Why wouldn't there be outrage? It's shambolic. The idea is to build a team that gets the best out of talents like Sancho, not sacrifice them as a RWB because you can't coach a team that doesn't feature three CBs and McFred into not surrendering chances all game long.
Sorry but this is genuinely cracking me updi maria said himself he was played out of position and that it wasnt his desire.
Probably because developing basic technique at the age we bought him is fairly difficult and the progress is likely to be incremental.
He probably has improved if you watch back but he's coming from such a low baseline for a Manchester United footballer that it's difficult to get excited about. More a case of poor recruitment than poor coaching I think.
I had people telling me we needed a new RW last season to look good in attack, my argument was that Greenwood is a very good RW player and actually one of the better ones in the league.
Fast forward, we sign Sancho and Greenwood plays ahead of him at RW still.
Fast forward, we sign Sancho and Greenwood plays ahead of him at RW still.
Sancho could perform anywhere in a fluid front 3 behind a striker...move him elsewhere...even to a more orthodox wing position slinging in crosses...and you play against his main strengths. But that would be exactly the sort of thing we would do!
Greenwood - is an inverted forward or a 9...We are neutralising what he is born to do by playing him too wide, deliver crosses and have told him to shoot less it seems!(Which I disagree with)
Pogba- a creative Midfielder never effective unless playing in a hardworking midfield 3- we consistently play him as part of a double pivotor a left winger!
DVB - a 10 or an 8 at a push. Said he would be willing to play as a 6 just to get minutes.
Fred - a Brazilian box to box, bought my Mourinho and told he couldn’t get a game due to the fact our defensive cover wasn’t strong enough. He has been converted to be that defensive cover.
Matic -our only out and out CDM constantly asked to play in a pivot.
Ronaldo - best in a more undisciplined role to the left of a strike partner...for the most we play him as a lone number 9.
I hear Shaw might become a centre half in a back three...you know ...Shaw...our only attacking full back.
I give fuking up. And it would be at least a little less frustrating if the Gaffer didn’t come out and out on record that he doesn’t believe is specialists...he wants all round players...before going on to show exactly why his team do not look like they have a breeze what they are doing!
Greenwood - is an inverted forward or a 9...We are neutralising what he is born to do by playing him too wide, deliver crosses and have told him to shoot less it seems!(Which I disagree with)
Pogba- a creative Midfielder never effective unless playing in a hardworking midfield 3- we consistently play him as part of a double pivotor a left winger!
DVB - a 10 or an 8 at a push. Said he would be willing to play as a 6 just to get minutes.
Fred - a Brazilian box to box, bought my Mourinho and told he couldn’t get a game due to the fact our defensive cover wasn’t strong enough. He has been converted to be that defensive cover.
Matic -our only out and out CDM constantly asked to play in a pivot.
Ronaldo - best in a more undisciplined role to the left of a strike partner...for the most we play him as a lone number 9.
I hear Shaw might become a centre half in a back three...you know ...Shaw...our only attacking full back.
I give fuking up. And it would be at least a little less frustrating if the Gaffer didn’t come out and out on record that he doesn’t believe is specialists...he wants all round players...before going on to show exactly why his team do not look like they have a breeze what they are doing!
LVG played Di Maria up front a few times and it was weird. It didn't seem (at the time) like he was being tried in multiple positions to try and regain form, it seemed like LVG was trying to be clever. It didn't work
Missing a key point that the manager doesn't know what he's doing.
Sancho will be reborn when we finally get a decent coaching and management setup.
It’s a joke, just jumping from one idea to the other and hoping something works. No forward planning, no tactical knowledge, random amateur coaches who have done nothing in the game.
Literally wasting expensive talent that they had over a year to plan for.
No one culpable or responsible to clear up this mess. The fact Ole and his cronies are here for Watford is the lowest point since Ferguson left. It’s that bad.
Absolutely moronic.
Literally wasting expensive talent that they had over a year to plan for.
No one culpable or responsible to clear up this mess. The fact Ole and his cronies are here for Watford is the lowest point since Ferguson left. It’s that bad.
Absolutely moronic.
Nothing like this though. He was played on the left, he was played in an attacking midfield role, what more did he want? He's an excuse maker, it's not comparable to an attacker playing wing back and it was also under a completely different manager. It's a weird comparison.