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That's sort of slipped under the radar. Is he in jail or bail or what?We are not sure.
Similar situation to the chap at a certain other North West club that plays in blue.
That's sort of slipped under the radar. Is he in jail or bail or what?We are not sure.
Similar situation to the chap at a certain other North West club that plays in blue.
Hopefully that is not true - wowI read on the bbc page it's four counts over 16 but it's six in total so that must mean two under 16. I hope that's not the case.
I don't think it isHopefully that is not true - wow
No idea what's going on. Nothing mentioned.That's sort of slipped under the radar. Is he in jail or bail or what?
I forgot about him, these two cases are a bit grim.Disgusting individual. I’m surprised we haven’t heard anything more about our unnamed player yet.
Why was the treatment of Mutu so different / harsher than many other players who've failed drugs tests before and after him?Nope. As of 2018 he still owes us. I've not seen any real updates since then.
He's appealed to lots of different courts/ruling bodies, none of them have gone against Chelsea.
Timeline from the BBC....
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/45719451
I don't know if Chelsea have just given up, they probably have.
- August 2003 - Joins Chelsea for £15.8m from Parma
- October 2004 - Sacked by Chelsea after positive test for cocaine and banned for seven months
- January 2005 - Signs for Livorno and is then contemporaneously sold to Juventus
- May 2005 - Mutu appeals against Premier League's decision to allow Chelsea to seek compensation, later rejected by Court of Arbitration for Sport
- May 2008 - Fifa orders Mutu to pay Chelsea damages, Mutu appeals to Cas
- July 2009 - Cas rejects Mutu's appeal
- June 2010 - Swiss Federal Supreme Court upholds Fifa and Cas rulings, Mutu appeals to European Court of Human Rights
- October 2013 - Fifa orders Juventus and Livorno to pay part of compensation
- January 2015 - Cas annuls Fifa ruling that Juventus and Livorno owe Chelsea compensation
- October 2018 - ECHR rejects Mutu's appeal against Cas ruling.
The only other player in England I can remember who got done for cocaine was Bosnich, who also got sacked (there was no transfer fee to go after with him as a free signing).Why was the treatment of Mutu so different / harsher than many other players who've failed drugs tests before and after him?
Plenty of other players seem to have been kept on by their clubs during the ban, and given help by them. I never got why Mutu was not only sacked by his club but then ordered to pay the club such a huge amount of money.
Has that happened to any other of the many players who've been banned for failing / missing a drugs test?
Iuliano and Higuita.The only other player in England I can remember who got done for cocaine was Bosnich, who also got sacked (there was no transfer fee to go after with him as a free signing).
Are there other players who tested positive for coke? Maradona years ago, he got a long ban and Napoli released him.
Anyone else?
His bail was extended recentlyDisgusting individual. I’m surprised we haven’t heard anything more about our unnamed player yet.
Completely forgot about VoldemortDisgusting individual. I’m surprised we haven’t heard anything more about our unnamed player yet.
Really strange one for the unnamed one!His bail was extended recently
Ah, I didn't realise it was all to do with the type of drug he was taking. I was just going off others who've failed drugs tests. Even so, focusing on the type, I'd have thought there were many more performance enhancing drugs than Cocaine that people had failed tests for that warranted stronger punishments than Mutu.The only other player in England I can remember who got done for cocaine was Bosnich, who also got sacked (there was no transfer fee to go after with him as a free signing).
Are there other players who tested positive for coke? Maradona years ago, he got a long ban and Napoli released him.
Anyone else?
Yeah, the type of drug is of course hugely impactful on any punishment.Ah, I didn't realise it was all to do with the type of drug he was taking. I was just going off others who've failed drugs tests. Even so, focusing on the type, I'd have thought there were many more performance enhancing drugs than Cocaine that people had failed tests for that warranted stronger punishments than Mutu.
What the feck
I remember when musician Ian Watkins was jailed for paedophilia and some papers put up pictures of Ian. H. Watkins from Steps instead. These stupid mistakes occasionally happen when people have similar names and are in the same job.
There is a 100% chance I'd get litigation for defamation of character going pretty immediately here.
That lad from Stoke who Pulis loved, Berahino. When Stoke sold him they said he’d spent 6 months banned for habitual drug use.The only other player in England I can remember who got done for cocaine was Bosnich, who also got sacked (there was no transfer fee to go after with him as a free signing).
Are there other players who tested positive for coke? Maradona years ago, he got a long ban and Napoli released him.
Anyone else?
This sort of shit happens all the time when two footballers share a surname. I don't even understand how it happens? Even if you're a lazy journalist and you know nothing about football you're surely going to type 'Benjamin Mendy' to get a picture of him on Google, at the very least. The only way this could happen by accident is if you just typed 'Mendy' or 'Mendy footballer' but why would you not type their first name in. It just doesn't add up. And is no one proof reading these articles before they go out?
Saw that on Reddit earlier. Happened to Edouard Mendy's cousin, Ferland Mendy, as well. In the immortal words of Drogba: 'It's a fecking disgrace''.
I was thinking that perhaps a post graduate social media content manager of some kind who isn't a football fan was tasked with finding images related to Benjamin Mendy and then typed in Mendy City, and since Edouard Mendy was the last player called Mendy to play in a match City were involved in, it brought up an image or two of Edouard Mendy, and since the person isn't a football fan, perhaps wouldn't have known that the first image up isn't the correct Mendy.This sort of shit happens all the time when two footballers share a surname. I don't even understand how it happens? Even if you're a lazy journalist and you know nothing about football you're surely going to type 'Benjamin Mendy' to get a picture of him on Google, at the very least. The only way this could happen by accident is if you just typed 'Mendy' or 'Mendy footballer' but why would you not type their first name in. It just doesn't add up. And is no one proof reading these articles before they go out?
Either way, for articles like this you would like to think the writer would take extra care to associate the right person’s image with the offences at hand here.I was thinking that perhaps a post graduate social media content manager of some kind who isn't a football fan was tasked with finding images related to Benjamin Mendy and then typed in Mendy City, and since Edouard Mendy was the last player called Mendy to play in a match City were involved in, it brought up an image or two of Edouard Mendy, and since the person isn't a football fan, perhaps wouldn't have known that the first image up isn't the correct Mendy.
Silly mistake, but I can how a mistake like that can happen if the image finder isn't a football fan who already knows what Bemjamin Mendy looks like.
I agree with you. It's a stupid mistake, and it's incredibly unfair for both Edouard and Ferland Mendy to be so casually linked to this case. I'm just saying I can see how an error like that can happen.Either way, for articles like this you would like to think the writer would take extra care to associate the right person’s image with the offences at hand here.
how is it racismFerland Mendy's picture was also used by a french media to portay Mendy in this rape case. I'm tempted to call it "lazy racism" but racism nonetheless.
If only Édouard Mendy was concerned I'd say it's a mistake but Ferland being included is dodgy to me. No links between the guys except their names, jobs and the fact they're black. It's suspect to me. Specially when one happened after the other. I could be wrong of course but it's very suspect to say the least for mehow is it racism
'Suspect' is being very kind, especially considering Government ministers are just as bad:If only Édouard Mendy was concerned I'd say it's a mistake but Ferland being included is dodgy to me. No links between the guys except their names, jobs and the fact they're black. It's suspect to me. Specially when one happened after the other. I could be wrong of course but it's very suspect to say the least for me
Yeah because some idiots online associate trial with guilt, and would then proceed to (wrongly) classify the wrong person as a rapist.Either way, for articles like this you would like to think the writer would take extra care to associate the right person’s image with the offences at hand here.
He was denied bail because he violated bail conditions (hence him continuing to play for City prior), not because of the nature of his crimes or the evidence.People can say innocent til proven guilty but considering he is a top professional footballer with millions in the bank yet was denied bail tells you that he did these crimes.
Scumbag
So they have similar jobs, same last name and same skin color, and it's suspect?If only Édouard Mendy was concerned I'd say it's a mistake but Ferland being included is dodgy to me. No links between the guys except their names, jobs and the fact they're black. It's suspect to me. Specially when one happened after the other. I could be wrong of course but it's very suspect to say the least for me
No, the worst part about it is definitely the hypocrisy.Call me old fashioned but I think the most damming aspect in all this is still the allegations of rape, rather than an employer giving an employee the benefit of innocent until proven guilty?
You don’t think it might be because they’ve got the same surname?Ferland Mendy's picture was also used by a french media to portay Mendy in this rape case. I'm tempted to call it "lazy racism" but racism nonetheless.
When was the last time [Irrelevant point] and Xabi Alonso were mistaken for each other? How about Bernardo Silva and David Silva?You don’t think it might be because they’ve got the same surname?
I have seen things like but there was a funny one earlier this year. The Montreal Canadiens hired Jean Francois Houle and a paper used the picture of an other Jean Francois Houle who is older and working for the government.When was the last time [Irrelevant point] and Xabi Alonso were mistaken for each other? How about Bernardo Silva and David Silva?
Calling it lazy racism is spot on.
It is for me yeah. For a rape story, you cannot just use the image of the first Mendy that pops up and say to yourself "yeah, must be him". All of the confusion that can happen, I have never seen Caucasians involved in a rape storySo they have similar jobs, same last name and same skin color, and it's suspect?
Hah fair enough! Will confess that I missed that story here in PortugalI have seen things like but there was a funny one earlier this year. The Montreal Canadiens hired Jean Francois Houle and a paper used the picture of an other Jean Francois Houle who is older and working for the government.
It definitely is but it's strangely common, most people miss it because they are not the first to an article. But in this case it's definitely not excusable, you can't link someone to that kind of crime and not triple check your article.Hah fair enough! Will confess that I missed that story here in Portugal
Guess I would suggest the stakes are quite a bit higher here - it's a pretty inexcusable mistake and could be grounds for a defamation suit. I think it's also fair to point out that black and brown people are more likely to be perceived as criminals and that there are specific challenges associated with that fact, so news publications failing to do even a modicum of due diligence is far more impactful and therefore negligent.