Yes I know this bloody fact is frustrating to us all but he isn't willing to move now whereas Pochettino is so there you go
Depends how you look at it I guess? You could spin it to say he wants to rebuild one of the greatest football institutions in the world into a force again.
You can bet anything that he will be. And we will be looking to replace poch after he's delivered no trophies and plays negatively against the better sides.
I'd wait till summer to get TH of he has any interest at all which I'm sure he does....besides, what kind of cnut leaves his club in the middle of the season?
That's the real issue of this whole bloody mess, the board.
“Record Sports understands there is a belief Carrick may be able to successfully operate as a caretaker until the summer if necessary.”feck off
PSG fans will hate me for saying this, but United are a far bigger club. They are one of THE dream teams to manage and doing anything with them will mean so much more than whatever he does with PSG, bar a CL win.
I made the point that people were talking about Pochettino's work with Spurs as if it was similar to what Simeone did and several posters argued that Simeone was backed and started from a better position which are both wrong.
Yeah same here but seems our board aren't willing to play the waiting game
I think he is a dead man walking at PSG ever since he didn't manage to win the league with them last season and I think he knows it.
He is 12 points clear now and got more points per game than Tuchel last season. It wasn’t his failure last season.
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Tell that to Leonardo. The guy is a prick no doubt wants a manager with a bigger name and rep.
I would take Eriksen at his peak over Bruno. As productive, but much more disciplined, and reliable. Pogba never show the consistency needed. Dembele did it as all action, ball carrier through the midfield consistently week in week out for at least couple years where Poch Spurs was at its best. Different wing, but Kyle Walker was better than Shaw, and more consistent, without Shaw bad form almost every season. Dele during those years were more productive as the supporting forward than Greenwood has been showing. Younger Ronaldo was a better player, but currently he's not better than that eversion of Kane who consistently challenging for PL golden boot and still have leg for Poch's pressing game. Son is very similar to Rashford. Varane may trump Toby and Vertongen individually, but their partnership, and long understanding since they played together in Belgium shirt, and used to be at Ajax together is better than any CB partnership we have currently until proven otherwise.
Conte a better coach but Poch a better manager?
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No. Most football people would know how much of a sham outfit PSG is with their state backing. When one of the world's elite clubs come calling most would be off too. I find it encouraging (if its true) that he is willing to leave PSG for United which would most likely have significant negative financial implications for him.
Hard to compare because of the club's they've both managed up to this point in their careers. I think Conte's better overall but he doesn't fit our model, same reason I don't think you guys went for him. Conte should be at a PSG, Madrid, Chelsea type club, while Poch fits United where he'll have time to build what he wants and won't get sacked after one year of "failure". I like Conte a lot but unless we spend in a way that we haven't in the 20 years under our current ownership he'll hit the exact same ceiling Poch hit.
Not just him, but any manager. Really silly if people think someone can just come in and win the cl like that, just because chelsea did it.
Not a big deal tbh. It took Klopp a while to implement his system too. Liverpool finished 7th in his first season after all. Giving a manager time because there's clear progression and improvement in performance isn't a problem for me. It's our mentality of giving them time based on nothing but blind faith that I've taken issue with in the past.
Bloody bell, do you not remember 2011 and Barcelona making us look like Port Vale?
Poch seems to have the habit of lowering expectation. Very defensive mind set about having high expectation. Very alarming thing indeed.
Excellent post man, Poch is a very good coach but his time at Spurs was massively benefited by players just coming on at the right time, Verts, Rose, Dembele, Walker were firing and suited Poch perfectly. Dembele was a massively underrated player who I honestly believe if had stayed injury free would have been WC, big and strong, technically excellent and could glide past players.
I don't like the aura you're giving off
I can’t agree with most of that to be honest. He still had them performing without Walker and he isn’t as good a footballer as Shaw at his very best. Our players are being judged under poor coaching, while theirs are being judged under a top coach and a proper system.
Is this even true? I certainly remember poch having a very rapid impact at Southampton and thought the same at spurs. Regardless, getting him now would be better than an interim
This matters zero, unless he’s coming from Liverpool of course. Strike that, all of us would take a motivated Pep or Klopp tomorrow. Tottenham are way too insignificant to matter at all, just like Everton and Cardiff were.
Agreed with this.
Probably more from being from the same area of Scotland.Isn't that linked to Busby being scouse?
what do you think we would achieve this season by not waiting until SUmmer, anyway? THis season is a lose already. Top 4? any decent manager might get us there.
I remember Pep saying how he promises nothing, only "work" from his side, back when his back was against the wall. I wouldn't read too much into it. PSG is a shitshow and even Tuchel found it a broken system of expectation there.
The one we just sacked that everyone loved?
I put less weight on a manager or player coming to United from a rival club. Moving on to bigger and better things is how I like to look at it. Going the other way is a different matter.
Why would we sell a 3-4 year project to bring us back into contention? Ole completed the rebuild. We just need someone into win now to capitalise on the great work Ole did
Psg always seemed like the worst fit for him other than the fact he used to play for them. Especially now they signed Messi
