An official announcement isn't going to make much of a difference is it. He'll already be hard at work.
Ralf Rangnick | ex-interim manager | does anyone rate him?
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They can always announce with '...pending work permit approval'. I think they did in case of Varane I guess.
Agree that there's a chance it could be a disaster with these players. But then no manager would have been a sure thing.
That is my feeling too!
He is probability working behind the scenes. Was hoping to see it announced today tho!
Simplest explanation is we’re waiting until after the Chelsea game.
Then we have to look at the players, because it will show they are not willing to learn.
Learning a bit more about him, and what I'm getting is that we will find out which players are willing to put in the work and those just there for the pay check.
Exactly. This team does not need freeloaders. He will then also know players who have the right attitude he can advise the club to bring in. There will also be players who will try their best but just don't have the attributes he needs. Bloody hell we could be left with no players.
Haaland was signed by Salzburg when Rangnick was still at Red Bull.
But yeah the other 3 are nonsensical and were obviously made to stretch it to an XI.
The list of RB players is impressive enough without them.
It’s certainly going to be an interesting few weeks.
I don’t know too much about this guy or his footballing philosophy only what I’ve read and listened too over the last few days.
In the main there seems to be a positive vibe about this appointment, people talking like he’s going to come in, install a big ticking clock at carrington and revolutionise the way we play.
Will we see a difference and an obvious change? I hope so, I hope it’s not just a managerial “bounce” that is only there for 2 or 3 games, I hope there is a positive and definitive style that brings results but who knows.
The board have made a change, too late in my opinion but a change nonetheless, I suspect it’s going to take time for Rangnick to get his ideas and philosophy across and it will be interesting to see how this place reacts to the inevitable bumps in the road that will bring because it seems that in this forum and indeed from a lot of so called experts/pundits/coaches this guy is one of the best out there but I’m sure I’ve heard this all before.
I don’t know too much about this guy or his footballing philosophy only what I’ve read and listened too over the last few days.
In the main there seems to be a positive vibe about this appointment, people talking like he’s going to come in, install a big ticking clock at carrington and revolutionise the way we play.
Will we see a difference and an obvious change? I hope so, I hope it’s not just a managerial “bounce” that is only there for 2 or 3 games, I hope there is a positive and definitive style that brings results but who knows.
The board have made a change, too late in my opinion but a change nonetheless, I suspect it’s going to take time for Rangnick to get his ideas and philosophy across and it will be interesting to see how this place reacts to the inevitable bumps in the road that will bring because it seems that in this forum and indeed from a lot of so called experts/pundits/coaches this guy is one of the best out there but I’m sure I’ve heard this all before.
I just went over there and read the most recent 10 pages of their thread on it. I have the following take home messages.
1. He's shit
2. United are shit
3. He'll fall out with Ronaldo
4. Ronaldo can't press
5. Ralf is only doing this for the money and will fall out with the owners and leave in 6 months
6. United are really shit
7. All United's players are basically on the level of players in league 1 or possibly 2
8. Our fans will hound RR out of he doesn't win us the league this season
9. Liverpool have a monopoly on patience, class, good football, top fans, special songs, special stadium etc
10. Ralf might fluke us top 4 at best
I never read their forums but they are a special kind of smug, been visiting Anfield since the 70s and I have nothing but contempt for them, still it's good they're spending so much time on Ralf, obviously worried
What will that achieve? Satisfy impatient fans? He might already be working while waiting on work permit. Isnt that more important thing?
Exactly. It’s like people getting pissy about a pathetic nothingy twitter announcement over players when it’s clear they’re signed.
I have my doubts about a lot of these players. They can't hide behind the manager not being good enough tactically now.
And in contrast to players, he can already start to work, while players cannot train before everything is signed and sealed.
Just had a look myself now on the back of your post, I see none of that?
There are a few bedwetting in there actually, which is interesting!
I think there is always the unknown factor that fans get drawn in with, I am sure 99% of those talking know very little about Rangnick and barely saw him coaching, so are going on soundbites.
Carrick saying Ralf cant come in change the whole style of play as it is important to keep UTD DNA,
For me utd DNA means we should play an entetrtaining football all the time to cheer up hard working people when they come to watch us at the weekend as per Busby the great adopted by SAF.
Michael Carrick insists incoming boss Ralf Rangnick will NOT revolutionise Manchester United | Daily Mail Online
I am really pissed off hearing this again and again from Ole and others but playing lethargic dull football on the pitch.
who do you agree with changing the whole setup and moving into modern style by playing entertaining football by an elite continental coaching staff
For me utd DNA means we should play an entetrtaining football all the time to cheer up hard working people when they come to watch us at the weekend as per Busby the great adopted by SAF.
Michael Carrick insists incoming boss Ralf Rangnick will NOT revolutionise Manchester United | Daily Mail Online
I am really pissed off hearing this again and again from Ole and others but playing lethargic dull football on the pitch.
who do you agree with changing the whole setup and moving into modern style by playing entertaining football by an elite continental coaching staff
Carrick can say what he wants, but if he thinks Rangnick is going to listen to him, he’s greatly mistaken. He will just ignore Carrick if he isn’t proving helpful to him. Rangnick has a giant ego and doesn’t pander to others.
Cancel Merse's contract? I am all for it.
Just read the article. It's newspaper bollocks again. Carrick doesn't say anything directly about RR or pressing. Given it still hasn't been confirmed by the club officially I suggest he's not responded to speculation at the point he was doing that press conference
Bizzare, and Carrick and his incompetent team is gonna be the coaches under Ragnick ? FFS United needs to stop living in the past. That is only a sign of mental health problems. For the last 10 years United have played incredible boring fotball with no major success. We have not played attractive fotball since 09 imo. United DNA my ass.
Firstly he didn't say that did he? Secondly there is no United way of playing other than attacking football in a general sense
May he manage his first match for UTD asap or else someone would come here and claim that he invented football.
He didn't say anything that people are getting upset about. The only DNA thing he's referring to is that United need to play winning football and attack.
Did you even read the article?
It's a classic example of taking quotes and fitting a completely different headline to them.
Yeah, it's a bullshit piece of journalism.
In short you don't know.
My point is if it is just work permit holding back the announcement then they would have announced it anyway. Curious to understand what is the reason holding it up. Not asking anyone's guess here but if someone has any media source on it. I couldn't find any. It is a legit query.
You should write for a tabloid with that kind of shit stirring ABU-ism. Carrick didn't say anything of the sort.
The United 'philosophy' is just to play exciting attacking football. It's completely vague and RR's football by all accounts falls within it.
Irrelevant to what that article said or what Carrick said, we all are hearing about this DNA stuff a lot over last 3 years but playing a dore fotball..
So if the UTD DNA means playing an attractive winning football then beter we should start it asap, if we need to change our entire playing style then do it ...no issues for me
So if the UTD DNA means playing an attractive winning football then beter we should start it asap, if we need to change our entire playing style then do it ...no issues for me
Wasn’t he charge when Neuer pulled heroics in our CL semis?
The quotes aren’t exactly him telling Ralf anything.
I hope Ralf comes in like a dose of salt & drops them all out. Phelan, McKenna, Carrick, the lot. It wouldn’t be like Moyes getting rid of a title winning staff [Phelan won under SAF, I know but he’s been anonymous in his return], these bunch are serial losers in the coaching game.
Is the same nonsense OgS spouted, & it’s nonsense though. It’s become tedious hearing coaches that have never proven to be able to coach at the top level &/or even shown an ability to foster ‘United DNA’ out of a United squad speak in platitudes.
I hope Ralf comes in like a dose of salt & drops them all out. Phelan, McKenna, Carrick, the lot. It wouldn’t be like Moyes getting rid of a title winning staff [Phelan won under SAF, I know but he’s been anonymous in his return], these bunch are serial losers in the coaching game.
On a scale of motivator to tactician, where would you place Carrick?
Can’t say I’ve seen him work up close enough to form an opinion.
But on a scale of OgS to SAF [which is what they really mean when they talk about their ‘United Way’] I’d put him closer to the recently ousted.
That Sky graphic showing Leipzig were literally 1st in every defensive category from interceptions, pressures, recoveries, tackles and goals conceded and we are currently in last in almost every category should bring some comfort to the sceptics.
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