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He misplaced 12 passes which was more than anyone else in the team. One of those led to us conceding.Almost all of his passes connected?
Paired with Mata and you're holding it against him for poor defensive positioning?Come on, man. Sheeeeeeeeeeeeiit.
This is where I’m confused as well, midfield needs to be upgraded in any case, but McTominay has generally been a passenger this season.
Scott for all his limitations gives running power, physical strength and he is very good in the air, allows him to drop into defense as an auxiliary CB, defend threats at set pieces, gives some tactical flexibility, if you want to go to a 3 he can drop in, if you need him to go box to box he can. His technique is limited, does strike a ball nicely, and can clip a ball to the wings but his short passing game is clearly inferior to Donny.
His problem is that he isn’t really a defensive midfielder and he is a long way behind Bruno. Even if Bruno was to be dropped, VDB isn’t as good as Pogba and an argument could be made for Lingard as well. If he can’t do the defensive side he’s not going to play. He was signed as a replacement for Pereira and we should’ve been able to do that for a lot less than £40m.
Laughable. He’s the most ridiculed player in the squad. Go read his thread.
I see your point in terms of under Ole but to be honest I think VDB showed enough tonight in terms of winning the ball back and pressures and obviously being better on the ball than Scott to say that in Ralf's new 422 that he could be beside Fred. I actually thought he was better defensively than Scott (even though I like McTominay). My counter point would be that Donny has never had the same amount of games on the first team while playing along the best payers we have to prove himslef in that system. For me he is better defensively and way better on the ball than Scot but for some reason we never gave him that chance. I mean tonight was a mess of players that never played together.
Why do you think “most”?!
Sadly VdB became this weird weapon to use against Ole and so you'll find very little logic in a lot of what people are saying, there are some vocal and extreme camps on him and they just want to be 'right'.
I'm simply going off the general feeling of this forum that I interpret. To be honest I love Fred and I think Scott is an important squad player but I think the gerneral feeling on here is that central midfield is our problem. And the stats will show that VDB has nowhere near the chances that the other 2 have.
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You have literally spoken my mind mate. Like you said I'll judge Donny when he has played as much with the 1st team as Scot and Fred. And like you I love Fred and I think that under Ralf that McTominay can become a real great squad player. I just hate the fans writing Donny off when he is the one in the sqaud that has never had a run of games in the first team. I mean its stupidly clear he has the talent and ability.
Playing with mct at the moment is like playing with 10 and half players. Go and read his thread, we all see it, he hides in possession.
Oh my god. This is where we are now. Judging players by touches of the ball.
AWB had the second most touches today and there are fans on here celebrating his injury.
VDB was poor. No point in hogging possession to do nothing with it. If anything this highlights how unsuited to Ralf’s team he is. Nothing direct, no risks. Just safe and sideways. McTominay gets slated for the same but at least he knows his limitations and plays his role accordingly.
None of us watch training, so it's hard to say. You have to believe if he was amazing at Carrington he'd be getting more games. Let's see what happens under Rangnick. But, honestly, I think we made a mistake buying Van de Beek.
McTominay would have been worse in todays team.
Why buy a right back that can't attack and a central defender with no pace? They were obvious signings but they weren't the smartest. Although the fact AWB used to be a winger would suggest he could be better at attacking.
What? All three of them?
He did, but he had the highest amount of passes in the team. He made 74 passes and 12 were off target. I don't think that's terrible. 84% pass completion is okay. The one we conceded from was really bad. RR was definitely not happy with that.
He has always played in 5 min cameos with the first team. Whenever he's played more or started is when the b side is out.
If we really did assess 800 right backs before buying AWB we should have been aware of his limitations. Expecting him to attack well cos he was a winger as a kid, is like expecting McTominay to finish like Van Nistlerooy cos he used to be a forward in the juniors.
All three?
