Looks like a cock-up rather than a fix, but the cock-up has resulted in Messi vs Ronaldo, so that does muddy the water a bit.
Did UEFA botch the last 16 draw? - yes
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Even if they re-draw, we’d still get PSG, to the surprise of no one.
Ceferin is absolutely hopeless as the head of an international sporting body and this shambles of a draw is just another example of it.
It's a cock-up that becomes egregious when they don't care to remedy it.
It would’ve been farcical and an obvious re-draw.
Yes.
Yeah but at least then it would be a 'legitimate' draw.
Can we get access to the fancy QC Mercedes are using?
Funny how we get PSG every fecking season. You could have bet your house UEFA would find a way to make it Messi v Ronaldo one last time.
I'm fine with it. Aside from the hype, they're a worse team now than when we last played them, and we are a better team.
I'm fine with it. Aside from the hype, they're a worse team now than when we last played them, and we are a better team.
A careful and meticulous engineered cock up so that the TV companies can unload their juices on ronaldo v messi. $$$$
UEFA weren't missing out on one final Ronaldo/Messi showdown.
Edit: Or two.
Edit: Or two.
Too much money in sport nowadays to leave these things to chance. I have said for a long time that you can easily predict at least one draw per round by working out what is best for TV.
Case in point, United drawing Villa in the FA Cup. It's not about giving United a hard draw necessarily, it's about creating drama for TV. The return of Gerrard to OT.
United vs PSG. Again, not necessarily about giving United a hard draw to spite us, they just want that Messi vs Ronaldo match-up in an otherwise dull Round of 16
Case in point, United drawing Villa in the FA Cup. It's not about giving United a hard draw necessarily, it's about creating drama for TV. The return of Gerrard to OT.
United vs PSG. Again, not necessarily about giving United a hard draw to spite us, they just want that Messi vs Ronaldo match-up in an otherwise dull Round of 16
I didn't know Masi worked for UEFA too?
Be interesting when the legit draw is the exact same as this shambles.
I don't necessarily dispute his uselessness but surely you can't blame the head of UEFA for this. The procedure has been pretty much the same for almost three decades now and it's not a particularly complicated one. They people on stage fecked it up, it happens, but not much Ceferin can do about that.
You wait all year for a sporting body to completely feck up, then two come along together.
Masi or UEFA for most useless of 2021 award?
Masi or UEFA for most useless of 2021 award?
Why would they? They played each other last season in the group, 4-0 thrashing in Munich, Bayern fielded a complete B-team in Madrid as they were already through as group winners and still got a 1-1 there.
They'll be happy that they did not get Chelsea here for example.
Of course it was fixed. City and Chelsea get the easiest draws and United the hardest draw. Happens in every single draw.
Said before the match we would 100% get PSG and lo and behold…
They simply got sloppy and got caught this time. United should take this all the way
Said before the match we would 100% get PSG and lo and behold…
They simply got sloppy and got caught this time. United should take this all the way
They can always schedule that for the final.
Feels like Liverpool draw Salzburg every fecking year. 
I dont care, I wanted PSG, I want us to play the best teams, I want to see di maria cry and I want to see super fred kicking lumps out of the tax dodging fake crying little dwarf all night long.
There is no point, nothing will come off it. This is why i'm so despondent with sports in general, the obvious rigging and corruption is just too much.
For these draws to be truly objective they need to get an average Joe to pick the teams. Not a UEFA dignitary or player. football is after all about the fans
Anyone after the Villarreal draw could legitimately take issue...Athletico are another that stands out because I doubt they would want Bayern so soon.
I don't care who we drew quite frankly, point is rules weren't adhered to and they are there for a reason, needs to be redrawn as it was wrong.
Rigged or not I think it’s better that we play a team where we are the underdog……those hyped up twats from PSG can keep blowing smoke up their own arses……
We will be in a much better state when this match comes around, funny though could be the sorcerer v the apprentice in Ralf v Poch!
We will be in a much better state when this match comes around, funny though could be the sorcerer v the apprentice in Ralf v Poch!
Any official word yet?
Excatly.
It's televised ffs. No hiding your incompetence.
Man it up and do it again. Nothing hard about it.
This has to be redrawn. The balls were not put in correctly.
If it was a fix then it was a pretty openly obvious one More likely a genuine mistake and either way IF we were not in the right pot for any draw it should be redone.
Is it conclusive that he did just not verbally say Man United instead of City (easy mistake as we are giants and they are plastic) or was the ball placed wrong?
Is it conclusive that he did just not verbally say Man United instead of City (easy mistake as we are giants and they are plastic) or was the ball placed wrong?
If this is re-drawn and Pool get PSG. Imagine, how much fun that will be?
#Origi Vs Messi
#Origi Vs Messi
Since when is Villa better for TV than a game between two of the big six?
Utd would take their time like they always do. They will protest 1 hour before kickoff
In the video you can see he grabs a Liverpool ball instead of a Utd one.
0 chance they redraw this and admit they made a mistake. They'll just say the balls were in the right place but the graphics and what the guy said is wrong
Exactly, so many missing the point that this does not only affect us. I am sure Atletico would rather face us than Bayern.
This is UEFA. Like the FIA yesterday, they will do absolutely nothing.
It looks bad on the club if we protest this though. Looks like we're scared of playing PSG, despite it being the right call to do a redraw.
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