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Conte lost vs some team from Slovenia or Slovakia no one has ever heard about
In a competition no one care about…
We will see were Spurs and us will be at the end of the season. And that with us having a much better team !
 

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We have much less control but much more cutting edge with Raheem and Mahrez. The press is weaker, the ball retention is weaker but the extra directness is probably more entertaining when we're playing well. Didn't take our chances but a good first half. We might regret not putting Leicester to bed if they score early 2nd half.
 

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The good news about the top 4 is there are two spots open now which wasn't the case a month ago.
 

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Because we have already picked up since Ole left. Oh Spurs and Arsenal playing well? Only 2 points off Spurs after today and ahead of Arsenal if we win our games in hand. That’s after our horrendous start. Last time we played we had beaten Arsenal and the they crumbled to Everton while we beat Norwich. Of course they’re playing better since we haven’t played in about 17 years!
Any sort of run at all should see us through. It’s Chelsea who are a result or 2 away from worrying imo
Don't count points before the matches are played.
 

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We have games in hand against teams we should be beating if we see ourselves deserving of the top 4
So do Spurs though, we've played the same amount of games as Spurs and they're 2 points ahead. I'm not really worried about Arsenal tbh, they'll drop points against Wolves and City. I'm more worried about Conte who's doing a fantastic job so far.
 

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Our board never wanted Conte so no point thinking about 'what if' when it comes to Conte. Conte is not Mourinho, he's still top but he probably has some similarities with Jose that scare our board.
Perhaps, though said board are also dangerously incompetent.
 

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Don't count points before the matches are played.
I’m not. We just need a chance to play them, the table is lying at the minute and pointing to the point difference when games played are so lop sides is even worse
 

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Conte lost vs some team from Slovenia or Slovakia no one has ever heard about
Doesn't matter, Conte finished last in the CL group last season with Inter and won the league with ease.

He's always been better at focusing on the league.
 

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Conte is about as guaranteed a success as you can get from a manager and we let him go to fecking Spurs so that we could give Ole a few more matches to get humiliated further. Sigh.
Thank you for this brutally honest viewpoint. I know many would disagree but I think we are too slow in making these kinds of decisions. Had we acted faster Conte would be our manager now.
 

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There there sweetheart.
Go crywank over the spurs game, everything will be just fine.
Maybe Conte will send you one of his wigs to soak up the mess.
I see, you are a top red. You will rather have persisted with Ole and send us in the championship.

At the end of the end you have no arguments about Rangnick being better appointment then Conte.
 

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We have much less control but much more cutting edge with Raheem and Mahrez. The press is weaker, the ball retention is weaker but the extra directness is probably more entertaining when we're playing well. Didn't take our chances but a good first half. We might regret not putting Leicester to bed if they score early first half.
Come on, I get it you have high expectations with Pep but you're 4-0 up. :lol: :lol: :lol:

Personally I think you lot play a lot better with Mahrez in your starting 11, especially when it comes to creating chances, his weight of pass and first touch is a huge asset to have.
 

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Doesn't matter, Conte finished last in the CL group last season with Inter and won the league with ease.

He's always been better at focusing on the league.
Yeah sure, just wanted to mention that Conte already had equally shocking perfomances with Spurs as Rangnick had vs Norwich.
 

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Because we have already picked up since Ole left. Oh Spurs and Arsenal playing well? Only 2 points off Spurs after today and ahead of Arsenal if we win our games in hand. That’s after our horrendous start. Last time we played we had beaten Arsenal and the they crumbled to Everton while we beat Norwich. Of course they’re playing better since we haven’t played in about 17 years!
Any sort of run at all should see us through. It’s Chelsea who are a result or 2 away from worrying imo
I thought you looked poor against Norwich. Arsenal have looked good since ditching Aubameyang and Spurs have a very good manager.

I do think you have better players but it remains to be seen how you’ll do under Ragnick.You had a good 45 minutes against Palace but that’s not much to base your confidence on.
 

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I won’t dispute in any way that Conte is a great manager but he seems short term, medium term at best. He’s basically 2000s Jose Mourinho before Real Madrid frazzled him.

Would rather go on the Ralf and beyond route, rather than Conte who’d have probably ended up emulating Jose’s stint with us in my opinion. Nice high finishes, some silverware but not the prestigious ones.
 

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Conte is about as guaranteed a success as you can get from a manager and we let him go to fecking Spurs so that we could give Ole a few more matches to get humiliated further. Sigh.
Every time I think our board seems to be going in the right direction, I'll just think back to this and how it's one of the most monumentally stupid decisions any top club has ever made.
 

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I’m so confused when someone says Zaha is a good player. He’s been average for years.
 

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Conte is about as guaranteed a success as you can get from a manager and we let him go to fecking Spurs so that we could give Ole a few more matches to get humiliated further. Sigh.
Domestic league freak. Think 4th is theirs to lose, even with the shite squad they’ve got
 

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I thought you looked poor against Norwich. Arsenal have looked good since ditching Aubameyang and Spurs have a very good manager.

I do think you have better players but it remains to be seen how you’ll do under Ragnick.You had a good 45 minutes against Palace but that’s not much to base your confidence on.
It’s the performances since Ole left including Villarreal and Chelsea away and Arsenal a home. We are actually on a great run, don’t know why people on here are pretending otherwise
 

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We were never getting him. He’d definitely have fallen out with the board and they knew it. He has extremely high standards and they do not.

No way Conte took the Spurs job if he hadn’t been told United weren’t interested.

It says a lot about the club that we weren’t interested. Nothing against Ralf but I do think Conte is on another level.
He doesn't have high standards. He just wants an unlimited budget.
 

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So do Spurs though, we've played the same amount of games as Spurs and they're 2 points ahead. I'm not really worried about Arsenal tbh, they'll drop points against Wolves and City. I'm more worried about Conte who's doing a fantastic job so far.
There’s no point shitting the bed with so many games left though. Outside Liverpool and city there aren’t any teams capable of being super consistent. There will be opportunities for us.

What’s happened has happened and all we can do is look forward and hopefully see improvement on and off the pitch to set us up for trophies this season and onwards.
 

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Every time I think our board seems to be going in the right direction, I'll just think back to this and how it's one of the most monumentally stupid decisions any top club has ever made.
We obviously don’t want Conte for one reason or another and we have gone the Ralf route which covers short and long term. Not as stupid as you pretend.
 

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We were never getting him. He’d definitely have fallen out with the board and they knew it. He has extremely high standards and they do not.

No way Conte took the Spurs job if he hadn’t been told United weren’t interested.

It says a lot about the club that we weren’t interested. Nothing against Ralf but I do think Conte is on another level.
Of course he is.

If Fergie was appointed right now by this board it wilhave finished in tears as he would not take the incompetence and the player power.

It only worked because he was already at the club and the board did not have to intervene.
 

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Come on, I get it you have high expectations with Pep but you're 4-0 up. :lol: :lol: :lol:

Personally I think you lot play a lot better with Mahrez in your starting 11, especially when it comes to creating chances, his weight of pass and first touch is a huge asset to have.
I was mostly joking but yeah in games like this I think this is the team for sure, against tougher teams, I think even though its not as easy on the eye, Jesus and Foden for the press and control I think is huge. This team is probably our most entertaining XI since Sterling and Sane on the wings, the Foden/Jesus is probably our best though.
 

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I won’t dispute in any way that Conte is a great manager but he seems short term, medium term at best. He’s basically 2000s Jose Mourinho before Real Madrid frazzled him.

Would rather go on the Ralf and beyond route, rather than Conte who’d probably emulating Jose’s stint with us. Nice high finishes, some silverware but not the prestigious ones.
Conte is obviously a far superior manager to Rangnick but as you say its the future direction that we're looking at here. A joined up modern and attacking philosophy. Conte, like you say, is a short term appointment that'll leave you with a load of deadwood when he falls out with the board.
 

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I see, you are a top red. You will rather have persisted with Ole and send us in the championship.

At the end of the end you have no arguments about Rangnick being better appointment then Conte.
Topred eh?
There goes any modicum of credibility you may or may not have had.
Best get back on twitter abusing howson.
 

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I was mostly joking but yeah in games like this I think this is the team for sure, against tougher teams, I think even though its not as easy on the eye, Jesus and Foden for the press and control I think is huge. This team is probably our most entertaining XI since Sterling and Sane on the wings, the Foden/Jesus is probably our best though.
Where would you fit Grealish then ?
 

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Where would you fit Grealish then ?
Where he is right now at the current moment. Grealish is a good player among many good players but his form for the last 6 weeks after a promising start doesn't merit him being in either iteration.
I do have faith he'll come good, Sterling and Bernardo both had poor starts under Pep and Mahrez was very hit and miss for his first 12 months.
 

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Generally I avoid watching City but whenever I do see a clip here or there you can guarantee it'll be Sterling going over in the box. It's such cynical stuff from him and his team.
 

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We obviously don’t want Conte for one reason or another and we have gone the Ralf route which covers short and long term. Not as stupid as you pretend.
I'm not pretending it's stupid, it is stupid. Spurs are laughing their way to CL football. However, I'm more than willing to wait until summer to see who we appoint as our full time manager, if we appoint Ten-Hag or even Ruben Amorim then it'll have been worth missing out on him, if we appoint someone like Rodgers or Pochettino then I'll re-emphasize what a stupid decision it was.
 

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Thank you for this brutally honest viewpoint. I know many would disagree but I think we are too slow in making these kinds of decisions. Had we acted faster Conte would be our manager now.
How would anyone disagree we are slow at making these kind of decisions? Besides Gary Neville I don't think anyone thinks that.

Conte may had been better for the short term, but I'm absolutely delighted to have Rangnick even if we lost top 4 this year. Conte is a short term fix, and while he'll improve Spurs and would have definitely improved us I don't think he'll have done it to the point of us getting major titles.

He's never been good in Europe and I don't think he could reach City's and Liverpool's level with us. Eventually he would leave us and we'll had to start all over again.

With Rangnick is different, nothing's assured but if he's here for the long term our whole football structure will change and I'm not talking about Ole's nonsense cultural reset, going back to Sir Alex days etc etc bullshit I'm talking about a real project with a real innovative manager/director that can actuay set the bases for our next year's adopting a modern football philosophy.
 
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People in here actually pissing themselves about Spurs and Arsenal :wenger:

The fecking state.
 

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People in here actually pissing themselves about Spurs and Arsenal :wenger:

The fecking state.
We have the better players but they're both better teams than us right now. It's possible this changes over the course of the season but people are only able to judge off the present, and what's happening currently is that they're picking up points at a very consistent rate.