Feck off Luke you'll be lucky to be here next season.
Luke Shaw interview post Wolves defeat
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In the full version he also mentions how you could see we lacked intensity and aggression about winning the ball back from the very first minute. He’s spot on. Our front four were all absolutely awful out of posesssion (three of them were also awful in possession). You can fully understand why he was raging.
No he was definitely blaming the players.
Really glad to see this. Don’t see why so many people seem to have taken this so badly. We are a mess and pretending otherwise is only giving players a free pass
‘’us players, we have been here for a long time…’’
I am confused at this point.
Yes, a long time underperforming in 5th/6th place and winning nothing. Some have overstayed their welcome by many years. What’s he getting at?
I am confused at this point.
Yes, a long time underperforming in 5th/6th place and winning nothing. Some have overstayed their welcome by many years. What’s he getting at?
Shaw - "I agree we we've been bad, we need to work to put it right"
Idiots on the caf - "HOW DARE YOU SAY THAT, ONLY WE CAN SAY THAT."
Idiots on the caf - "HOW DARE YOU SAY THAT, ONLY WE CAN SAY THAT."
The players need to understand that as a starting XI we do not have enough quality even against the likes of Wolves.
Stop pinning everything on motivation and energy.
Stop pinning everything on motivation and energy.
So are the bloody performances mate. What else could he have said….? He said they’re not all together which is evident in the performances. Saying the manager can bring more ideas, I think that’s quite a vague answer so as to say hopefully the new manager can bring ideas to turn it around (as anyone should expect him to anyway). He didn’t throw anyone under the bus.
That says a lot to me. However I was surprised Cavani and Matic played two games so close together. Ronaldo is no spring chicken. Maybe we are looking at a younger striker.
people should watch the interview before reacting to the hyperbolic misquote in the thread title
was a good interview
was a good interview
He said we, he didn't absolve himself in the assessment of the performance.
I think the breaking point for some of them was Ole getting sacked and losing people like Carrick. Some were very close to the manager and Carrick has been at the club a long time.
Bruno (although he wasn't playing well towards the end under Ole) seems to have changed his demeanour in a big way since Ole went. Almost like some of them aren't forgiving others for underperforming and getting him the sack. Not to mention none of them seem to have bought into Ralf's plan.
Right through to the end the players were still giving their all for Ole and 'playing for him' so the turning point and the 'divide' if there is one seems to have come about when the manager was sacked.
Admitting you are shite is the first step. Well said, Luke.
We really don't have a single forward that is good out of position and Ralf hasn't managed to change them as of yet. Only Bruno works well against the ball but he's all over the place too more often than not.
This honestly is a problem and speaks volumes about his attitude. Not good, not good at all.
After seeing the interview, he wasn't lying to be honest, perhaps too candid and honest about it all, but he said it like it is. We need a purge of sorts and a true cultural reset. If there is a split the noncompliance parts need to be excised.
I mean, what he says is fine. We criticise them for being robots and saying "we have to come back strong next week" and all the usual stuff, but maybe occasionally it is good to see some honesty. He's only saying what is evident anyway.
The problem is Luke, you are not exactly setting much of an example yourself after very much coming off the gas after a good season.
The problem is Luke, you are not exactly setting much of an example yourself after very much coming off the gas after a good season.
That's rich coming from a guy who let Adama fecking Traore cross into the box.
The man is not s footballer.
The man is not s footballer.
Seriously?
As much as we laugh at them, that’s exactly what Arsenal have done but it takes time and patience and they’re gradually building back with a young, hungry team.
Disagree. Players stopped playing under Ole and Bruno had the angry face look for many weeks prior to Ole being sacked.
Good honest interview. Be nice when our players aren't apologising on such a regular basis.
Some of these theories are pretty wild even for Dan Brown. Gonna bookmark this thread for future reading.
I love Pogba. But can’t help but think him winning the war Vs Mourinho and then having Ole bend over for him made others lose respect for the power of the manager
Most unlikeable squad we have ever had.
Yeah he's one of the players. Yeah he was talking about a group collective.
The team spirit seems so much worse this season, we play like a divided team.
Wtf is going on in this thread
The British lads vs the Portuguese fellas. The I can’t wait to get out are the third party (Donny; Lingard; Martial; Pogba)
Those players might have the right attitude, but does not mean they have the energy levels for the PL. Rashford is a big worry to me. He plays like he has concrete boots on. Maguire has been terrible this season, he was never brilliant, but his form has dropped unbelievably. AWB is a good defensive tackler, but need coaching about positioning. We have to make our mind up if Greenwood is a wide forward or a central striker. If the former we do need a striker as Cavani obviously wants out, there are too many rumours. Is it Ralf who is keeping him or the ones on high saying he cannot let him go as nobody will be coming in?
You know exactly which players are in which group - it's just a shame that both groups are underperforming in unison 
Problem is he is a huge part of the problem. Maybe once this season he might block a cross into the box, there's at least always hope.
This club is rotten. Rotten rotten rotten.
Good interview. Seems like a decent lad.
Of course it did.
Honestly if we were going to back Pogba then we should have mutually parted with Mourinho in the summer and everyone could have saved face but instead we let it descend into chaos knowing everyone was pulling in a different direction. We are so badly run it's actually hilarious.
I don't think it is about split in dressing room. Never was. Some players are clearly not there to play for the team. They are there for their egos and are only there for money. The sooner we get rid of those pretenders the better. They thrown past managers under bus and they will keep doing that until club starts fining players for every lost game.
Agreed, sky even had the quote “maybe the manager can bring some ideas” but Luke actually said “more ideas”. Subtle omission but changes the feel of the message.
They’d clearly stopped playing for Ole too. We lost 4-1 to Watford…the divide in the camp happened long before Ole went.
Happening all season, the balance has been awful. Ronaldo just tipped it to breaking point, from our senior attacking players outside of maybe Lingard, DVB and occasionally Cavani we just don't have the effort levels necessary. The midfield was very poor today, but look at the options the front players were giving them, expect it from Cavani and Ronaldo they are near done, but Greenwood and Sancho, 2 young men in their physical prime, just not good enough.
What I would give for a Ji Sung Park, a Tevez in our current attack.