Fred's never been in any press report as being one of the ones who wants to leave or mentioned as one who's causing problems, no idea why he's posting that.
"Up to 11 players now want to leave United after becoming disillusioned with life at the club."
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Maybe because there are rumoured to be anything between 11-17 who supposedly aren’t happy. Shows he cares at least.
What is happening with DvB is reminiscent of the fact that team has groupings and player power is too big, so like Lukaku who was only Belgian in the side, DvB is suffering as well. The English/British players trot around as if they own the club, the likes of Rashford, Magguire and Shaw. Ten we have French and Portuguese speaking lobbies. It is is quite evident all three lobbies don't get along with each other and there is too much tussle and ego clashes going on. The best step will be to cut them all to size. DvB deserves every chance, when a McFred, Rashford and Maguire and AWB can get chances week in week out, so does he. I don't even remember when was the last time he started in EPL. He's a midfielder who ran ring arounds teams like Real, Juve and Spurs in Champions League only two years ago.
Donny doesn't play because he's Dutch, he doesn't play because he's not very good. Ruud Van Nistelrooy was our only dutch player at one point during his time yet he still played. Lukaku has never said the fact he was Belgian was an issue, are you forgetting Pereira is also a Belgian citizen?
So the 'Don't be misled by false news' means nothing?
And the 'We' is the royal we yeah?
It's complete rubbish, the whole thing, and the fact that people lap it up is alarming, as thats why rubbish stories like this are created!!
I think it's quite clear that the leak was basically coming from one or two players. They would have said that half the squad is disgruntled.
If they find out who did it, I hope the management/Ralf leaks it to the press. That person needs to be ostracized. Make a lesson out of him. Godfather style.
If they find out who did it, I hope the management/Ralf leaks it to the press. That person needs to be ostracized. Make a lesson out of him. Godfather style.
Reports emerging of United offering Pogba a ridiculous new contract to keep him at the club 
What an absolute joke of a leadership team
What an absolute joke of a leadership team
What?
Saying the players know what they need to do but need to show more on the pitch? And saying that they wern't all pulling in the same direction during the game?
Sounds to me like a general 'we've just lost and need to appease the fans' interview to me, one that Bruno has done multiple times since he has been here.
Before you get carried away check the sources, and there's been a £400k a week contract on the table since the summer.Reports emerging of United offering Pogba a ridiculous new contract to keep him at the club
What an absolute joke of a leadership team
I am saying we have lobbies in the team currently, RVN played 20 years ago. Lukaku had other issues as well but mainly that he didn't get along with French and English players and their ring leaders Rashford and Pogba. Of course it wouldn't be a war zone with players of one nationality not speaking with others, but in general this is the sentiment that I get.
So Shaw coming out and saying we're not all together, the performances this season, McKenna, Carrick and Pert all jumping ship the second Ole got sacked and a leak from a United 'source' that apparently is overly concerned about Jesse Lingard's playing time doesn't sound like unrest to you? It was all made up was it because Fred Tweeted he's happy?
Nothing to see here lads, it's all been one big wind up, normal service will resume on Monday with a 5-0 win over Villa now @Champ has us rumbled.
I get that you may want to bury your head in the sand and choose a narrative that comforts you, but it was clearly not all rubbish. Luke Shaw himself pointed to a lack of togetherness, and Rangnick also hinted at it during the presser today.
Another interesting thing Fjortoft pointed out: some of these reports may be coming from one or two players, so they will have their own perspective. Doesn't mean they aren't true, but it is certainly important to keep in mind.
And I also don't ever remember any negative reports about Fred. Unless it was about Ronaldo having a bad influence on the Portuguese speakers at the club, which was all Daily Star BS, as I've said repeatedly.
Ole said it in an interview which you can find online. VDB also said it in an interview. If this is the level of denial the caf has now reached where you are ignoring official club info, external info and the player and manager themselves because you have decided it does not suit your opinion, we’ve truly become rawk.
Are you one of those people who still think Woodward scouted players and decided who we signed?
The Sun reported he wanted out
I mean how does Fred know what another player said to the press?
Also, no one laps up what the journalist say as gospel. A player might not be happy because they are losing football matches and they will write 18 players are not happy with the coach.. and tactics.
There is some truth to what comes out but its massively exaggerated.
It makes no sense if it was Oles player. He barely got a chance to even be written off in the first place. Why would he do that?
I don't believe a word of it. Don't think Jose signed Alexis. Don't think Ole signed Donny or Ronaldo. Club signings doesn't mean just Woodward either.
I was going to create a thread myself but I haven't. I might still.
I'll be honest I'm really struggling with United at the moment. I've started to not bother going to games anymore and feel really disinterested in things. I know it's not great but I just can't get my spark back.
Where are these reports? I've not seen them.Reports emerging of United offering Pogba a ridiculous new contract to keep him at the club
What an absolute joke of a leadership team
I have visions of that David Brent motivational scene where he's pointing at the door going
"There's the door, if you can't cut it, yeah"
"There's the door, if you can't cut it, yeah"
Poggers must be loving this dreadful run of form. Makes him seem world class in his absence!Reports emerging of United offering Pogba a ridiculous new contract to keep him at the club
What an absolute joke of a leadership team
Most of this is Oles fault, asked for a large squad then played his favourites regardless of form, training performances and performances on the pitch.
I agree with Mourinho that a 20 man squad plus three keepers is the ideal size.
I agree with Mourinho that a 20 man squad plus three keepers is the ideal size.
Who is making these decisions then? The committee was Judge, Ole, Bout and Murtough. Judge only deals with commercials and it’s hardly going to be Bout or Murtough (who might not have even been in his new role at that time) dictating who we sign.
Jose did want Alexis, he was so smug in the interview when it was announced. He also wanted Lindelof and Bailly and then complained he needed CBs...
Just because a manager signs a player doesn’t mean he knows how good or bad that player is.
Which sources?Reports emerging of United offering Pogba a ridiculous new contract to keep him at the club
What an absolute joke of a leadership team
Heard earlier this has gone from 11 up to 17 now.
We have known this for about three days. And its paper nonsense.
The club should call the players bluff and put out a statement, any players who want to leave should put in a transfer request. Lets see who these players are.
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I get that they're just doing their jobs, but it borders on embarrassing sometimes.
to be fair Fred is a prime target for abuse at best of times, doesnt need this ontop
This is true. Although surprisingly popular in my “least dislikable player” thread considering how much shit he gets.
Out of 40 players 11 is not happy. Shocking! We don’t have the luxury rotating at this point. We need stability and players playing themselves back in form. There is no time doing it in training. And another shock horror. People jumping on the band wagon..
Fred, for all the abuse he gets, is actually a really decent guy and would surely be one of Fergie's favourites if he were managing.
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Source: This Evening's Transfer Window Podcast: Duncan Castles.
Biggest first team squad in PL.
Also the least inoculated team in PL so covid has an affect on the squad.
Also personel not suited to rangnick style.
Lack of tactical work under Ole and therefore lack of tactical discipline in the squad and lots of work to be done.
Coaching still not to the expected standard.
Much better than under Ole's coaching, but Oles was extremely extremely poor.
Chris Armis is a problem, quality of training is not of expected standard. MLS level coaching which isnt the standard of PL.
Cliques in squad. Fractured squad.
Too many first team players arent working hard enough or implementing what the coaches have asked. Not putting in the effort on the pitch.
4222 is because of lack of quality in central midfield and in defence. However it is difficult to get it to work in PL, as width is important in PL.
Ronaldo is very important to glazers and Man Utd and Rangnick has to put a forward alongside him to do the pressing that Ronaldo cant.
This causes a problem as his pressing game cant work with Ronaldo by himself up front.
Rangnick wants Sancho and Greenwood in the team, however the 4222 asks too much defensive work of Jando and Mason. Jadon Sancho and Greenwood unwilling to do the off the ball running required. This happen under Ole as well.
Rangnick will not stay as manager beyond this summer if results dont improve. If he makes CL qualification, he could stay on.
Utd are actively looking for their next manager for next season. Richard Arnold has started this process as CEO. Poch in the frame. Ten Hag wants to go to Germany next, so if they pursued him they would need to convince him.
Rangnick success has been built on finding and moulding young technical players, who are hungry and determined. Who will listen and carry out instructions as asked.
2nd most expensive squad in world football. Utd board expect better use of the resources (players) he has available to him. On paper the squad is very good.
Biggest first team squad in PL.
Also the least inoculated team in PL so covid has an affect on the squad.
Also personel not suited to rangnick style.
Lack of tactical work under Ole and therefore lack of tactical discipline in the squad and lots of work to be done.
Coaching still not to the expected standard.
Much better than under Ole's coaching, but Oles was extremely extremely poor.
Chris Armis is a problem, quality of training is not of expected standard. MLS level coaching which isnt the standard of PL.
Cliques in squad. Fractured squad.
Too many first team players arent working hard enough or implementing what the coaches have asked. Not putting in the effort on the pitch.
4222 is because of lack of quality in central midfield and in defence. However it is difficult to get it to work in PL, as width is important in PL.
Ronaldo is very important to glazers and Man Utd and Rangnick has to put a forward alongside him to do the pressing that Ronaldo cant.
This causes a problem as his pressing game cant work with Ronaldo by himself up front.
Rangnick wants Sancho and Greenwood in the team, however the 4222 asks too much defensive work of Jando and Mason. Jadon Sancho and Greenwood unwilling to do the off the ball running required. This happen under Ole as well.
Rangnick will not stay as manager beyond this summer if results dont improve. If he makes CL qualification, he could stay on.
Utd are actively looking for their next manager for next season. Richard Arnold has started this process as CEO. Poch in the frame. Ten Hag wants to go to Germany next, so if they pursued him they would need to convince him.
Rangnick success has been built on finding and moulding young technical players, who are hungry and determined. Who will listen and carry out instructions as asked.
2nd most expensive squad in world football. Utd board expect better use of the resources (players) he has available to him. On paper the squad is very good.
Sounds like the United board like contradicting themselves. Sounds like we should just make one of the Glazers the manager.
What kind bullshit is that, if true we're completely fecked. Forget this season it's over.
Fred - bless him. He thinks “the number of players wanting to leave is 17” means “the player who wants to leave is the number 17”. Obvious really.
Lost in translation.We're now making a joke of the joke about ourselves. that is a new low
As funny as it's, this is actually very possible.