Trying to use win against mighty Leeds and Wolves to prove a point, what the hell.
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What a stupid stats laid out. Didnt he watch the matches ? We were battered by Chelsea and were lucky to escape with a draw. Plus we scored from a crap jammy goal
Same for Greenwood and Rashford to be fair.
In fact, other than Cavani, who is always injured and won’t stay beyond this summer anyway, none of our other forwards are fit to play under high pressing team.
It's absurd to suggest that Ronaldo's stats lose their meaning just because the team as a whole are playing badly, especially so when the discussion is in fact about whether we would play better with or without Ronaldo. You simply want to dismiss what the stats are saying because they don't support your side of the argument.
Rashford presses a decent amount. He just needs to do it more effectively. Greenwood is young enough to improve at it. Same with Sancho who has already shown that. Not really the same (long term) as a 36/37 year who can and won't.
Great words by Ronaldo, sad that his weak mentality team members won't like them.
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After reading those humble words from Ronaldo himself, it should be clear to everyone that he is not the problem. The youngsters are.
He knows the way….
I guess some of the quotes are taken out of context, but «oh, Lord».
He even leaves the backdoor open.
He knows the way….
I guess some of the quotes are taken out of context, but «oh, Lord».
He even leaves the backdoor open.
People on here actually using the Wolves game from earlier this season as an example we were better without him. An I the only one who remembers he was already signed but couldn't play that game, and everyone said he'll be embarrassed if he watched that game? We were shite.
Basically said what we already know.
Mourinho tried to eradicate it but went about it the wrong way..
Soft and not enough leaders..
Fans favourite and the Glazer's faves Pogba and Martial leaving this summer will be a long awaited step in the right direction.
My captain. Excuses FC will hate it. All true though.
Martial and Pogba haven't played for months, why throw shade at those 2 rather than the likes of Maguire and Shaw?
I think his cult will love this. I haven't seen the interview, but I haven't seen a single quote where he mentions his own performances. All I read is him pointing his finger at others, he knows the way, he believes it is possible to turn it around and if it isn't, he's out of here.
It will be very interesting to see what happens the next few weeks.
That middle tweet about knowing the way, but wont say what seems to contradict his trust in Rangnick 
He didn't singled out anyone. He said "we". He admited as much that the team isn't playing well which included himself.
Back on the interview, I think this is not the first time he mentioned being professional and mentality. It is quite worrying to be honest, you just need a couple of bad eggs in the team and this can have an effect to the entire squad. Ronaldo may not be playing well, same for the entire team but I don't anyone can doubt his professionalism and mentality. Whether he starts or not, I hope his mentality and professionalism will rub off the younger players.
His play has deteriorated a bit, but he still has the winner's mentality. Hopefully, he, Ralf, and the rest of the squad may get things together quickly and move up the table.
On one side his mentality is so great that he doesn't eat dessert - on the other side his mentality produces the lowest defensive ability of the whole team
Hopefully it's the training and diet that rubs up on the younger players and not being in the lowest 1% defensively of the whole league
Hopefully it's the training and diet that rubs up on the younger players and not being in the lowest 1% defensively of the whole league
Trying to suggest he cost us the game vs Chelsea when he came on is an interesting take given we were camped in our own half for 89 minutes with or without him and it wasn't him that gave away the penalty.
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He didn't single out anyone right. But I think it is true, the newer generation is different. But what you do? Coddled them like what Ole did? Big them up all the time?
All I get from this, and Rashfords post, and Maguires interview, and Luke Shaws interview is again how fractured and unprofessional the whole club is.
when RR came in surely the fuking media team knew it would turn sour at one point and would have a public facing plan to show unity, calm down the headlines etc. Instead, leaks come out about everyone wanting to leave 2 or 3 weeks back and over the following weeks, dribs and drabs of bullshit bringing the matter back to the surface every few days from our players. Just shut the fuk up. If Ronaldo wanted to back RR, back him at the start so the media can’t run with bullshit stories in the first place ...if Maguire wants to be the big Captain, say it once and shut the fuk up.
honestly, this just stirs the pot...”Ronny knows the solution but won’t tell Ralf”!...everyone shut up and keep our talking on the pitch for a month or two.
when RR came in surely the fuking media team knew it would turn sour at one point and would have a public facing plan to show unity, calm down the headlines etc. Instead, leaks come out about everyone wanting to leave 2 or 3 weeks back and over the following weeks, dribs and drabs of bullshit bringing the matter back to the surface every few days from our players. Just shut the fuk up. If Ronaldo wanted to back RR, back him at the start so the media can’t run with bullshit stories in the first place ...if Maguire wants to be the big Captain, say it once and shut the fuk up.
honestly, this just stirs the pot...”Ronny knows the solution but won’t tell Ralf”!...everyone shut up and keep our talking on the pitch for a month or two.
I’m finally warming to him. Just need to hear how much he hates cancel culture and I won’t criticise him again.
Seems like it's rubbing some weak fans the wrong way as well. The one guy in the team that has the right mentality, who thinks that we should not settle for anything less than top 3, and they want him out.
Think that is the whole problem here. He is physically passed it, but I have no doubt his mindset is still right and he is still professional when it comes to training.On one side his mentality is so great that he doesn't eat dessert - on the other side his mentality produces the lowest defensive ability of the whole team
Hopefully it's the training and diet that rubs up on the younger players and not being in the lowest 1% defensively of the whole league
I honestly think we have a big issue in the squad, we have players with the right mentality but maybe lack the skills or physical attributes to play what the coach wants, but on the other hand we have players who can only play well when all the stars are aligned but let their heads down when things are not going their way. It is really hard for any coach to make improvements.
To side track a bit here, I'm sure many of our players are all very nice persons in real life but that is not what we need right now right? You can be Mother Theresa but then if you don't apply yourself in the right way as a footballer then maybe this club is not for you. Ryan Giggs for example is not a nice person from al accounts but the way he applied themselves as a footballer is something we need now.
With all this winner mentality talks imo we definitely must call Keano back. Never seen a bigger winner and hell of a captain too.
Maguire is captain for a reason. Granted he's been poor this season as have most of the first team.
But what I'm talking about and Ronaldo is insinuating is character.
Removing the flakes and sulkers from this squad for example Pogba, Lingard and Martial is the first step forward in this 'cultural reset'.
He's clearly talking about getting rid of/completely dropping players.That middle tweet about knowing the way, but wont say what seems to contradict his trust in Rangnick
And the guy is also planning to leave himself
That worries me. When you've got winners like Ronaldo, Varane, Cavani even Matic I'd hope our youngsters would hang on to their every word.
I think our dressing room has gone through confusing transitions. Strict under Jose then players get told that was wrong and Ole's soft approach is right. Trying to instil a winners dressing room again is tough when you've had 3 seasons of songs around the campfire.
I think our dressing room has gone through confusing transitions. Strict under Jose then players get told that was wrong and Ole's soft approach is right. Trying to instil a winners dressing room again is tough when you've had 3 seasons of songs around the campfire.
I liked the interview, he's pushing some buttons at management and board level and, for once, someone has the balls to come out and say some of the players are weak as feck, as already proven in the last 5-6 years.
If people are upset after that interview, please give your head a check.
If people are upset after that interview, please give your head a check.
Would I say this in an official interview and not mention my own performances with a single word? No. Doesn't matter if he has a point or not.
"I know the way" "I don't want to be at the club to fight for 6th or 7th"
He talks like he is too good for this club, when he hasn't done more than showing a couple of glimpses of former greatness so far this season.
If he had been leading the way by performing at the top level week in and week out, elevating the players around him (this is what leaders do), instead of finding himself at the solo bottom of the defensive statistics and being one of the most wastefull forwards in the premier league this season, then he could talk all he want. He hasn't. So he should do his talking on the pitch.
When you are the on top of the wage list, on top of career trophy lists, on top of career goalscoring lists and so on, it comes with enormous expectations and responsibility. You are expected to lead by example and then demand teammates to follow your example. It shouldn't surprise you when fingers are pointed at you when the team doesn't perform to the expected standard. Especially when all stats support the idea that the team performs worse with you than without you.
He can want us to be better all he wants, but he must start with himself (which he didn't mention with a single word in that interview).
Great words.
he tries on the pitch too at least
Not all can say the same
he tries on the pitch too at least
Not all can say the same
Luke Shaw has been at United since 2014, and has had 6 good months, the rest of the time he's spent sulking.
Maguire throwing the captains armband down and then going out after getting sent off vs Watford is a lot flakier than anything Martial or Pogba have done.
The first team have been abysmal, but you're still going after players who don't even play. Maybe focus on the players on the pitch who are embarrassing the club at every turn?
he said “all of us” must do better
Bollocks. He talks like he KNOWS the club.
"Manchester United should win the league or be second or third,” he told Sky Sports. “I don't see other positions for Manchester United to be honest, I don't see. In my eyes, I don't accept that our mentality be less than to be in the top three in the Premier League.
It's all good when Ronaldo wants to leave but when Pogba leaves its self centred bullshit
Don’t assume why I am saying what I am saying. We have played like shit before Ronaldo came except for the Leeds game which has been our easiest fixtures in past season due to the way they approach the game. We have played alright with him and terrible with him. Same goes for without him leaning more towards the terrible.
Bruno is suddenly shit and found out? Rashford is a pub player? Cavani is this bad? Greenwood’s decision making is shit? Martial is a non-entity? Of course not and the same is true for Ronaldo, no more or less than anyone else. If you think these are all bad players there’s nothing to discuss.
Well we lost against the mighty Wolves with Ronaldo just last week.
My point was people are acting like Ronaldo is saving us and we'd be even lower without Ronaldo, that's not true at all.
This club is 7th in the League at this exact moment. That is the reality and he is part of it whether he accepts it or not. I'm pretty sure that not a single player or employee at the club is happy with the state we are in right now. Do you really think this is unique for him?
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What reason is that?
True for the champions league, we'd be out of that without him. So it's true that we'd be worse off without Ronaldo.Well we lost against the mighty Wolves with Ronaldo just last week.
My point was people are acting like Ronaldo is saving us and we'd be even lower without Ronaldo, that's not true at all.
But contrary to your point, there are also people in here that are making it out like he's the cause of all our problems, which he isn't.
I think most could agree though that we aren't any better with him, but the majority of problems existed before his arrival.
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