Rashford considering his future...

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Please Barcelona, take him....You were stupid enough to pay 140m for Coutiniho and 100+ for Dembele, please 50m will do...I will book his first class flight myself
 

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His socials, hmm. It's called social media, what an awful way of putting something, his scoials. What are ya, his fecking mate?
 

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I don’t have much to say about the so called abuse or his reaction to it. However, the links to other clubs including Liverpool are laughably desperate :lol:

All of this seems like playground tactics
 

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Rashy in Spain or PSG would be brutal, the fans would have him in tears on a weekly basis. What the fan said in this instance is not ‘abuse’ ffs. If Rashy is that sensitive then maybe being a pro athlete at one of the most famous sports teams in the world isn’t for him. We’ve got a long break now so a few weeks off and completely shut off from social media might do him good.
 

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I looks like Rashford was the abuser in this instance. Justification without apology doesn't look good. I think he is a wee bit too far up his own arse. I hope he returns to planet earth soon. Dissapointed with Wrighty.
 

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Ridiculous. Of course the fans have right to criticise player’s performance. It’s like customer has right to criticise food to cooks not just the owner and the restaurant manager are allowed to do it. On top of that, there were kids there waiting outside and he showed a middle finger. It shows his immaturity.
would you yell your criticism across the restaurant then to use your comparison?

The kids are waiting outside to see their heroes which is great. There are obviously a strange group who stay behind after a game to shout criticism at players who havent performed. You think this is fine? what is the purpose of doing that? thats not support.... thats just intentionally venting at a player who is a bad place in terms of performance. what is the purpose of that? its not like Rashford hasnt been trying

I said Rashford over reacted and his poor performances coupled with the 'criticism' and abuse he receives is obviously affecting him mentally. Rashford has been a good pro and an example to others in the past. To see him react like that shows to me he is frustrated and under pressure rather than immature. When have we seen this before? The yelled criticism from fans isnt going to help that. These are exactly the kind of people who would have been yelling at Fergie in 1989 or 1990.

We'll agree to disagree but for me the fans play a role in encouraging players and supporting them when they are in bad places. You carry on though eh.
 

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I hope rashford joins liverpool so that even the most deluded utd fan (@Nou_Camp99) is forced to give him dogs abuse.
 
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would you yell your criticism across the restaurant then to use your comparison?

The kids are waiting outside to see their heroes which is great. There are obviously a strange group who stay behind after a game to shout criticism at players who havent performed. You think this is fine? what is the purpose of doing that? thats not support.... thats just intentionally venting at a player who is a bad place in terms of performance. what is the purpose of that? its not like Rashford hasnt been trying

I said Rashford over reacted and his poor performances coupled with the 'criticism' and abuse he receives is obviously affecting him mentally. Rashford has been a good pro and an example to others in the past. To see him react like that shows to me he is frustrated and under pressure rather than immature. When have we seen this before? The yelled criticism from fans isnt going to help that. These are exactly the kind of people who would have been yelling at Fergie in 1989 or 1990.

We'll agree to disagree but for me the fans play a role in encouraging players and supporting them when they are in bad places. You carry on though eh.
When a player has been playing shit like Rashford, he should take the criticism like a man and be aware that the fans especially the ones who paid the money to attend the game are unhappy with his performance.

Criticism shouldn't be viewed the same way as abuse or hate because they are not the same thing. A mature employee would take criticism from customer like a man and use it to motivate yourself to improve your performance. The same with footballers, cooks, and everyone.
 

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When a player has been playing shit like Rashford, he should take the criticism like a man and be aware that the fans especially the ones who paid the money to attend the game are unhappy with his performance.

Criticism shouldn't be viewed the same way as abuse or hate because they are not the same thing. A mature employee would take criticism from customer like a man and use it to motivate yourself to improve your performance. The same with footballers, cooks, and everyone.
Nobody who sticks around at a football stadium for ages to shout abuse at a player is offering any kind of constructive criticism. They’re likely just taking out frustrations at their own unhappy life on somebody else in a really unhealthy way.

They should probably take their issues like a man and go to therapy.
 

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Or you know, using him as a squad player? Sancho can be used on either wing. Rashford can play up top or on the right occasionally but is best as a LW. Do City sell Bernardo Silva, Sterling, Grealish, Gabriel Jesus, Mahrez because they don't necessarily start every game? No they have a group of attackers to rotate with and push each other on. We have Sancho, Rashford..... martial..... Elanga.... Amad...??? You're saying we sell Rashford, leading us to need to sign a starting striker, a backup striker, a starting winger, and a depth winger now. Its literally horrible squad management to sell a player like Rashford after a bad year when he can provide so much.
Not sure MR wants that.
 

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Nobody who sticks around at a football stadium for ages to shout abuse at a player is offering any kind of constructive criticism. They’re likely just taking out frustrations at their own unhappy life on somebody else in a really unhealthy way.

They should probably take their issues like a man and go to therapy.
''Come on guys, after that performance''

Is that an abuse?
 

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Nobody who sticks around at a football stadium for ages to shout abuse at a player is offering any kind of constructive criticism. They’re likely just taking out frustrations at their own unhappy life on somebody else in a really unhealthy way.

They should probably take their issues like a man and go to therapy.
No they stick around with their kids who want autographs.

Anyone who thinks what that fan said counts as abusive is the one in need of therapy.
 

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Do you know what happened before that conveniently cut video?

Aside from that there’s also the old adage of straws and camels backs
Rashford reached to a boiling point and lost his cool right after someone said ''Come on guys, after that performance''.
 

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When a player has been playing shit like Rashford, he should take the criticism like a man and be aware that the fans especially the ones who paid the money to attend the game are unhappy with his performance.

Criticism shouldn't be viewed the same way as abuse or hate because they are not the same thing. A mature employee would take criticism from customer like a man and use it to motivate yourself to improve your performance. The same with footballers, cooks, and everyone.
worst post ive read in a while

people should man up to abuse and criticism then.....

You should read up a bit on mental health
 

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You just gonna keep ignoring the part about a conveniently cut video then

Real mature
The video that starts with someone saying ‘look there’s rashford’.

Nah I guess it’s easier for some to believe he was wandering around outside for ages getting pelters.
 

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You just gonna keep ignoring the part about a conveniently cut video then

Real mature
If someone abused him, why didn't he lose his cool right after he got abused? Why did he lose his cool right after someone said ''Come on guys, after that performance''? Do you get it now, it's called immaturity!!
 

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Still find it weird that grown men hang around on a regular basis to get a 24 yr olds signature.

I get it the one time if you want it for your kid or something. But by his own admission the guy's there on the regular shouting for Rashford. Time to grow up me thinks.
 

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worst post ive read in a while

people should man up to abuse and criticism then.....

You should read up a bit on mental health
I think you should be the one who read up bit on mental health if you still think abuse and criticism are the same thing despite of me already telling you they are different.
 
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You just gonna keep ignoring the part about a conveniently cut video then

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Do you know the video was cut or are you guessing?

I'm all for someone having a go back at loudmouth twatish fans but offering the guy out was going too far. I bet he feels a little silly today.
 

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I think you are totally over looking the fact it is he unhappy with reduced playing time due to his serious dip in form. Its seriously doubtful he'd ever be happy with a back up role. Making it a challenge to keep him
He has reduced playing time due to the form though. We need some good man management here to make him understand and feel valued that there is absolutely an important role for him once his levels improve again. Its not an unreasonable thing. Little talk of him being unhappy with reduced playing time, of course he's unhappy but you don't sell a player because they are unhappy with reduced playing time after a bad spell. Up to them to get past the bad spell and force their way back in. Not like we are spoiled for choice, 2 good back to back games and he'll be a starter again, simply as the competition for places is virtually non existent.

And long term even if we sign a winger. Manage them like City or Liverpool do. Who is the backup or starter out of Diaz/Jota/Mane/Firmino for Liverpool? What about between Mahrez, Sterling, Grealish, Foden, Jesus, Bernardo Silva? None are backups, all are rotated and have a fair shot at starting any game. That's what we need to develop and Rashford can easily be part of a group like that.
 

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would you yell your criticism across the restaurant then to use your comparison?

The kids are waiting outside to see their heroes which is great. There are obviously a strange group who stay behind after a game to shout criticism at players who havent performed. You think this is fine? what is the purpose of doing that? thats not support.... thats just intentionally venting at a player who is a bad place in terms of performance. what is the purpose of that? its not like Rashford hasnt been trying

I said Rashford over reacted and his poor performances coupled with the 'criticism' and abuse he receives is obviously affecting him mentally. Rashford has been a good pro and an example to others in the past. To see him react like that shows to me he is frustrated and under pressure rather than immature. When have we seen this before? The yelled criticism from fans isnt going to help that. These are exactly the kind of people who would have been yelling at Fergie in 1989 or 1990.

We'll agree to disagree but for me the fans play a role in encouraging players and supporting them when they are in bad places. You carry on though eh.

You seem to use a couple of labels; criticism and abuse. I'm not sure how you or others differentiate those negative sentiments.

Your analogy that someone wouldn't shout across a restaurant is flawed, if only because of proximity to the potential individual underperforming and the feedback mechanism and listening that exists. Why you blame fans for club failures is interesting. It is failings, only by, what seems, your expectation that the proximity of players to customers and historical use for feedback from such proximity shouldnt occur.
 
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Not sure what the abuse is in that video. They yelled at him about his performance and then in much lower tones spoke to themselves about him being shit. Hardly abuse.

However, I see his reaction as showing his frustration and it seems to me like he does care (hopefully about performing for united and not just about himself). A player who didn't care wouldn't even be bothered to respond to any of that, I think.

I believe he should be given 1 more season to try to get back to form. However, if he is unhappy with his reduced playing time which is obviously due to form and completely justified, then he can move on.
 

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I hope rashford joins liverpool so that even the most deluded utd fan (@Nou_Camp99) is forced to give him dogs abuse.
How am I delusional? Up until this season Rashford has been a very good player for us.

I think you're all bring incredibly pathetic and trying to take out your frustration on him. He was only a substitute the other night. What did the rest of them do? Sweet feck all.
 

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He was only a substitute the other night. What did the rest of them do? Sweet feck all.
The rest of them played quite well in the first half. High effort levels at least.

Then Rashford comes on and somehow manages to work a fraction of the amount his team mates around him do despite them having burst a gut for 70 minutes.
 

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I wonder what is an acceptable form of criticism by fans. As per several posters here, shouting about performance is unacceptable. Shouting when player walks down the road is bad. Boos are for bad suppoters. Handkerchiefs are for pussies. Whistling is yuck.

Looks like being a supporter means accepting shit effort from players. And clapping like a robot.
 

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When a player has been playing shit like Rashford, he should take the criticism like a man and be aware that the fans especially the ones who paid the money to attend the game are unhappy with his performance.

Criticism shouldn't be viewed the same way as abuse or hate because they are not the same thing. A mature employee would take criticism from customer like a man and use it to motivate yourself to improve your performance. The same with footballers, cooks, and everyone.
Which begs a larger question about society in general: how much are young adults and teenagers being taught about taking criticism and building stronger resilience nowadays? It's almost crazy to believe that younger adults and teenagers look so fragile compared to those who came just before them (let's say anyone closer to 30 years and older).
 

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Which begs a larger question about society in general: how much are young adults and teenagers being taught about taking criticism and building stronger resilience nowadays? It's almost crazy to believe that younger adults and teenagers look so fragile compared to those who came just before them (let's say anyone closer to 30 years and older).
You can see just from this little microcosm with Rashford and the fan that there are so many people happy to label any sort of negative interaction as abuse.

It's fast becoming a meaningless buzzword and it's a crutch for people to hide behind.
 

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If he at least showed the bare minimum - effort, I'd have more sympathy. It's not only bad form, he actively avoids working for the team. Almost looks like some random bloke pulled from the OT crowd and made to walk around the pitch in an United shirt.

Unless he has some serious injury we don't know about - it's inexcusable. If he has an injury and can't walk - just come out and say it.
 

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Just an absolute circus isn't it? You ever see this kind of fiasco coming from City and Pool at the moment? No they're too busy building good teams and winning stuff. Meanwhile us... The camp around Rashford are taking the absolute piss. Any sensible club would have him gone yesterday, it's not like he's even good at the moment it's beyond a joke. The Barca rumours... Hmmm I remember a lot of those with Rashford when was it?? Oh yes, around about the time of his last contract negotiation! "thinks" could there be a link...? Could there?

I like Wrighty a lot but he's completely wrong about that video. How much evidence is now needed to see Rashford's attitude is really, really bad. It's on the club to stop being a circus and to let this madness end. I'm sure Ralf will give them good advice on it, let's hope they take it.
 

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I feel like one too many pr people /agent have got into his head since he started to be seen as a brand's dream to sponsor.

I don't think mentally he yet has the strength to handle the weight that has been put upon him on and off the pitch