Ralf Rangnick | ex-interim manager | does anyone rate him?

[OleksUsykUD]

He is also the first ever united manager not to sign a single player. He inherited a complete and utter shit show, bad and all as last night was it's still better than our last game against pool which was actually at home.

Also Klopp finished 8th in his first season having taken over two months earlier than Ralph did.

He hasn't been great but I wish he took over in 2015 instead of Jose, we would be in a much better place now.

Agree with you on ETH though, he has it all to prove, that's for sure.

He knows what he is getting into it. He also most probably knew that he wouldn't be able to sign a single player.


Comparison with Klopp is an absolutely joke, and anyone with a sense of mind, should have not do this.


Did you even understand that in the last 8 years or so, we have spend around 1,2 billion on players? How exactly you can compare us to Liverpool in terms of spending ? Now the picture is quite different, aren't it.


We have quite a big squad for the manager to work out. He is constantly crying, but he is constantly keep playing Maguire, and it's not like he didn't have option to replace him.


It doesn't matter what year he would have take the wheel, or how much money he would have been given, that guy is a fraud, and there is a reason he never ever get a top manager job before.


P.P. And for people saying that no one could improve a fitness of the players mid-season, this is completely untrue. Before Conte took on Tottenham team, they were dead last in pretty much every department, but importantly in the running department. They were the laziest team in the whole league.


Also people were saying that he can't make them work, cause they have terrible, terrible squad. While i agree they have terrible squad, he still somehow manage to work it out, and are in great position to land them in top 4.


And lastly, no one would want to give anything for a manager that pretty much is calling them ***** and wash his hands with them. Not in football, not in any company. Obviously the morale is all time low, and the fault is on Rangnick. We may not have the best squad in the league, but we 100% have a squad that is way better than the result we are given, and we have by quite a large margin the best 4th team in the league. Our squad is miles better than Tottenham and Arsenal's.


This is my last remaining post, so don't expect an answer.

 

[flappyjay]

I mean, we can afford to lose 10+ players and still have a normal sized squad, considering how bloated it is right now.

It would also be good as it allow us to give 2 or 3 of Hannibal, Garner, Amad, Pellestri and Laird a proper chance.

 

[pocco]

The problem is that Rangnick cannot give you an "impartial view of the squad". He cannot give you an impartial view of the squad because he is the manager of the football club, he has responsibilities and benchmarks he should achieve. He is failing at his responsibilities and at achieving those benchmarks. He has motivation to pass the responsibilities along to someone else (the players), and the method to do so (his future role as consultant).

He is about as partial as they come. If this 'future consultant' job didn't exist you'd identify this behavior for what it clearly is.

I disagree completely. Rangnick has no ties to the club previously and if he's been asked to try to steer us to top 4 but, ultimately, really assess the squad, then he can provide an impartial view. I think he's shown this too. I don't detect any real favouritism to any players (some complain about Maguire but I think he's a bit stuck there for the time being). He's dropped players that were untouchable under Ole, he rewards good (or better than usual) performances with another chance to play etc. I suspect he will probably be able to provide an honest assessment of every player in the squad now. If you asked Ole that, he'd protect the likes of Maguire, Rashford etc. Same for other managers in the past that had favourites or signings that they protected.

 

[nmm85]

I'm not overly disappointed about losing last night, it was expected. I'd just about be "fine" with getting thrashed by Liverpool and City, if we werent so poor in other games. They are a far better sides than we are at the moment. What has really let us down this season is losing so many leads to poorer sides and games like Everton/Wolves/Watford. A team with better leadership wouldn't drop so many points there. We should and could be comfortably in 4th but here we are.

Last night wasn't really a true barometer on where we are. We are no-where near Liverpool and we knew that before KO, not many teams are and they can beat many average teams like they did yesterday. Its the other games where we should be ashamed of.

 

[Iker Quesadillas]

I disagree completely. Rangnick has no ties to the club previously.

He has ties to the club now. His future job is consulting for the club, a job that is, according to some reports, somewhat undefined.

It's supposed to be a two-year role and he just said, publicly, that United could only need 2-3 transfer windows to compete. His consultancy role is supposedly until 2024, so 2-3 transfer windows. What a lucky coincidence!

 

[R'hllor]

Dunno whats all discussion about RR, he fecked up simple as that, he couldnt do his way and he gave up from it, tried to adapt to feckers he inherited and failed. Just for deciding to adapt to them, he cant have a pass. Abandoning your own ways, just so you could try to fit in mold of a good manager that adapts to players at his disposal and brings best out of them, his rewards for it, them fecking him over, zero fecks given and crying about training regimes, got everything he deserves.

 

[KetilOwren88]

There is absolutely no doubt that Ragnick has failed as an interim since the results has been so bad. The reason however is very difficult to tell, but it’s probably a bit of everything. When that’s said, hopefully something good will turn out of it and we will see a much better culture in the future, but that’s hard to belive with the Glazers still around. If Ragnick is held as high as it seemed, when he got the job, his experience and advice towards the squad should be important, but the whole situation is so confusing and I don’t even know what his future role will be like

 

[GueRed]

with hindsight shouldn't have went 3-5-2 last night. still would've lost mind

 

[1988]

Rangnick and then potential of ten Hag is without a doubt the only persons that leaves me excited for our future. I SO hope Rangnick will continue in the talked about consultancy role with ten Hag taking the reins. I wouldn't even mind Rangnick getting a more prominent role like director of football. His vision and execution is what will get us back as a relevant club.

 

[RiqCantona]

And managers have been sacked every time they have failed to qualify.

So was Ole.

 

[pocco]

He has ties to the club now. His future job is consulting for the club, a job that is, according to some reports, somewhat undefined.

It's supposed to be a two-year role and he just said, publicly, that United could only need 2-3 transfer windows to compete. His consultancy role is supposedly until 2024, so 2-3 transfer windows. What a lucky coincidence!

By your logic, anybody will have ties/become impartial once they start consulting anyway. You're being pedantic to make a nonsense point. What I'm saying is pretty straightforward and quite obviously how he is approaching the situation if you listen to what he says on a weekly basis. Do you genuinely believe the club have told him to manage the club only for 6 months, pretend he isn't consulting on the squad in the future, then step away from managing to consult? Ridiculous.

Even simple logic would dictate that he has been asked to manage the club with a long view in mind. He talks regularly about changes required at the club/with the squad...he is clearly looking at this with a long term, holistic approach.

 

[Keefy18]

He has explained what exactly? That it is not a "pre season friendly" that's not an explanation to me. And don't say it's a toxic time or environment, it's toxic to sit on that bench and watch someone like Pogba and Lingard get minutes while being absolute shit, and how they don't give a damn.

I'll gladly have Ralf out of the managers job as soon as possible... BUT... He is in an awkward spot in this regard

If he plays the Kids... 1) they are not ready and 2) yes it is a horrible and toxic atmosphere!

Do you stop and wonder why Greenwood went off the rails? Do you stop and wonder why we haven't produced a single talent from our youth teams in over a decade... from Januzj through all LVG's debuts to Greenwood, Williams, Garner etc etc... none of them have stepped up and helped bring the club back to glory.

We don't have the structure in place along with also having a toxic dressing room. The kids are essentially set up to fail!

But yes, Pogba & Lingard playing last night was wrong... Personally as a happy medium and avoiding both situations I probably would of played McTominay instead of Pogba and Sancho out wide instead of 3 centrebacks (Jones).

 

[Elcabron]

He knows what he is getting into it. He also most probably knew that he wouldn't be able to sign a single player.


Comparison with Klopp is an absolutely joke, and anyone with a sense of mind, should have not do this.


Did you even understand that in the last 8 years or so, we have spend around 1,2 billion on players? How exactly you can compare us to Liverpool in terms of spending ? Now the picture is quite different, aren't it.


We have quite a big squad for the manager to work out. He is constantly crying, but he is constantly keep playing Maguire, and it's not like he didn't have option to replace him.


It doesn't matter what year he would have take the wheel, or how much money he would have been given, that guy is a fraud, and there is a reason he never ever get a top manager job before.


P.P. And for people saying that no one could improve a fitness of the players mid-season, this is completely untrue. Before Conte took on Tottenham team, they were dead last in pretty much every department, but importantly in the running department. They were the laziest team in the whole league.


Also people were saying that he can't make them work, cause they have terrible, terrible squad. While i agree they have terrible squad, he still somehow manage to work it out, and are in great position to land them in top 4.


And lastly, no one would want to give anything for a manager that pretty much is calling them ***** and wash his hands with them. Not in football, not in any company. Obviously the morale is all time low, and the fault is on Rangnick. We may not have the best squad in the league, but we 100% have a squad that is way better than the result we are given, and we have by quite a large margin the best 4th team in the league. Our squad is miles better than Tottenham and Arsenal's.


This is my last remaining post, so don't expect an answer.

You are right, we were brilliant before he took over.....oh no wait, we were getting hammered 4-1 by Watford, my mistake.

I see you are still in the "our squad is much better than this" phase of grief. Good luck riding that pony.

 

[stevoc]

4th has never been good enough for us. And we've failed to qualify for the CL in the past as well (in fact 4 times in 8 years). We'll probably finish 6th this season as well. Failing to qualify is hardly a catastrophe now is it?

3 times post SAF. With two of those times coming in the first 3 years and one of those by goal difference.

And 4th should be the bare minimum acceptable for this club given the resources available to the manager, any decent manager would have had this team in the top 4 by now given how poor and inconsistent the other teams fighting for 4th have been.

 

[stevoc]

Ole performed better, there's no argument there. I think if Rangnick was permanent and had the remit he needs to exercise control from day 1, we'd see a different scenario. But that's for a parallel universe because it's (Rightly) falling to Ten Hag.

Neither were good enough for interim and neither are good enough for permanent. Ole somehow got both despite being a really, really bad manager.

Yeah, with hindsight even a fan of Rangnick such as myself can't deny this. We should have got a manager who is good for a bounce and let Rangnick rip up the squad after that.

That said, he may have gained very valuable insight form the manager role to make better decisions in the summer. Perhaps this short term pain will lead to a bigger and much needed overhaul than what would have otherwise happened.

Surely you mean suggestions?

 

[Escobar]

He is not a great manager but so good to have an external expert who says how it is. No more internal sugercoating

 

[Keefy18]

You are right, we were brilliant before he took over.....oh no wait, we were getting hammered 4-1 by Watford, my mistake.

I see you are still in the "our squad is much better than this" phase of grief. Good luck riding that pony.

I can see both sides tbf.

Our squad is definitely better than it has shown this season, but it is still miles off of City & Pool.

Should Ralf be getting better from them? Absolutely.

He's had 5 months basically and you'd imagine it should be enough to see some kind of improvement but if anything its getting worse by the game. Not that any of it really matters cause the season was pretty much a write off in November with Ole's sacking.

 

[BarstoolProphet]

I feel it's hard to really judge Ragnick's qualities as a manager. Mostly due to him being just interim and that he pretty much from the get go has alienated himself with the current squad which is a recipe for disaster short-term. I mean we got to see his trademark gegenpressing for only the first 30 mins of the first match against CP but it has been nowhere to be seen since. I think him being interim and calling everyone out is hurting his reputation outside badly, but will help us significantly in the long-term. Still hold the belief that he is doing this with a firm plan, despite us being absolutely dreadful on the pitch while he is a manager.

 

[VinzentFTW]

He is 100% right on the need for 10 new players. Problem is that we need to hit on all those transfers. That could take forever with this club and our poor succesrate.

 

[Strootman's Finger]

He knows what he is getting into it. He also most probably knew that he wouldn't be able to sign a single player.


Comparison with Klopp is an absolutely joke, and anyone with a sense of mind, should have not do this.


Did you even understand that in the last 8 years or so, we have spend around 1,2 billion on players? How exactly you can compare us to Liverpool in terms of spending ? Now the picture is quite different, aren't it.


We have quite a big squad for the manager to work out. He is constantly crying, but he is constantly keep playing Maguire, and it's not like he didn't have option to replace him.


It doesn't matter what year he would have take the wheel, or how much money he would have been given, that guy is a fraud, and there is a reason he never ever get a top manager job before.


P.P. And for people saying that no one could improve a fitness of the players mid-season, this is completely untrue. Before Conte took on Tottenham team, they were dead last in pretty much every department, but importantly in the running department. They were the laziest team in the whole league.


Also people were saying that he can't make them work, cause they have terrible, terrible squad. While i agree they have terrible squad, he still somehow manage to work it out, and are in great position to land them in top 4.


And lastly, no one would want to give anything for a manager that pretty much is calling them ***** and wash his hands with them. Not in football, not in any company. Obviously the morale is all time low, and the fault is on Rangnick. We may not have the best squad in the league, but we 100% have a squad that is way better than the result we are given, and we have by quite a large margin the best 4th team in the league. Our squad is miles better than Tottenham and Arsenal's.


This is my last remaining post, so don't expect an answer.

Is Ralf picking Maguire? Or is Fletcher picking Maguire? I don't think there is any chance Ralf picks Maguire if he had any freedom. He did manage to drop him a couple times at the beginning of the year and then unexplicably back in the team and never missed a beat since. No part of me thinks that was Ralf's decision, he's smart enough to figure out Maguire before he got here.

I don't even consider myself an expert on football, just a big fan, but if people are blaming the last 6 months on Ralf, or anyone but the players, you know even less than I do.

 

[acnumber9]

So was Ole.

Deservedly so. Glad to see you’re up to speed.

 

[DSG]

It’s unbelievable that there are still some in the Caf that are defending this guy as a manager.

It seems like the Ole outers are hell bent on proving that Ralf is better than Ole… Who cares? They are both bad. Why do you feel compelled to defend this guy? He’s literally won one major trophy in 20 years of managing clubs. He has the worst managerial record since Dave Sexton, and it’s not close, 41.67% win rate.

The players may be shit, the owners/board may be shit, Ole may have been shit. But that doesn’t mean that Ralf can’t be shit too. And he is. That performance was the worst I’ve ever seen from a Man United side. We were completely unprepared tactically, mentally and physically. How Ralf doesn’t deserve at least a tiny slice of the blame is beyond me.

 

[youmeletsfly]

It’s unbelievable that there are still some in the Caf that are defending this guy as a manager.

It seems like the Ole outers are hell bent on proving that Ralf is better than Ole… Who cares? They are both bad. Why do you feel compelled to defend this guy? He’s literally won one major trophy in 20 years of managing clubs. He has the worst managerial record since Dave Sexton, and it’s not close, 41.67% win rate.

The players may be shit, the owners/board may be shit, Ole may have been shit. But that doesn’t mean that Ralf can’t be shit too. And he is. That performance was the worst I’ve ever seen from a Man United side. We were completely unprepared tactically, mentally and physically. How Ralf doesn’t deserve at least a tiny slice of the blame is beyond me.

And how does that help, that he's a bad manager?

People defending him see the whole context. He was brought in to implement some methods for the next man in line and to asses what is happening at the club. Did they have better options than him until the summer? Yes, probably yes, but, most likely, either the club didn't want to spend the money, or Ralf advised against getting another manager in just for the sake of it.
There are far bigger issues at the club than him not being a good manager and the beloved Man United not making top4 and UCL this season.

The answer is simple, players are average, manager is average, club structure is poor, club culture is non existent, transfers were a mess, wage structure is a mess. What the feck do you think it happens when you badly manage a business?

Everybody deserves a slice of the blame, but that's not the point. During Ralf's short tenure, we and the club found out what the issues were/are and who's onboard or not. That's the best thing that happened to this club since 2013.

 

[Foxbatt]

And how does that help, that he's a bad manager?

People defending him see the whole context. He was brought in to implement some methods for the next man in line and to asses what is happening at the club. Did they have better options than him until the summer? Yes, probably yes, but, most likely, either the club didn't want to spend the money, or Ralf advised against getting another manager in just for the sake of it.
There are far bigger issues at the club than him not being a good manager and the beloved Man United not making top4 and UCL this season.

The answer is simple, players are average, manager is average, club structure is poor, club culture is non existent, transfers were a mess, wage structure is a mess. What the feck do you think it happens when you badly manage a business?

Everybody deserves a slice of the blame, but that's not the point. During Ralf's short tenure, we and the club found out what the issues were/are and who's onboard or not. That's the best thing that happened to this club since 2013.

Exactly and he has shown how and where we have gone wrong all these years. It is brutal the way he is calling it. I have always felt that Murtough is behind this calling out by Ralf. He has been around too long not to know the consequences of saying such things. He has not stopped it and is continuing to do so. It means that he has got the go ahead from someone in the club to do so.

If he had covered the cracks it is going to be much worse in the future. Now everyone knows how bad it has been and to change direction and two guys have left today. Maybe they did listen to the scouts but surely they should have reports on everyone promising young player in the World.

 

[Ted Lasso]

It’s unbelievable that there are still some in the Caf that are defending this guy as a manager.

It seems like the Ole outers are hell bent on proving that Ralf is better than Ole… Who cares? They are both bad.

It's delusional to think an inexperienced and unsuccessful manager at this level could come in and transform a team in a short period of time.

This was the case with Ole - his feel good new manager bump was used to justify giving him a full time job despite being worse than the majority of coaches across the top leagues of Europe.

From what I'm seeing with a lot of the "Ralf is a bad manager" posts is fans that haven't learned their lesson. If Ralf came in and had the same type of reaction as Ole as interim, it would be the ultimate display of stupidity from the board to hire him and the fans to be behind him.

Ralf Ragnik has never been at the level to manage Manchester United.

His greatest achievements have been from a footballing director level, helping to transform a club wholistically - style, recruitment, training etc.

His hiring was with the intention of being a behind the scenes consultant after the fact.

He was not given a single transfer.

He is helping advise the club about who to hire as manager, who to bin from the squad.

He is caretaker manager on the field with mixed results.

Frankly, he's doing a fine job for the expectations that SHOULD have been had of him. And from a lot of this thread, fans need this wake up call as much as anyone if you ever thought Ragnik was fit for the job. Much the same way Ole never was.

 

[90 + 5min]

It’s unbelievable that there are still some in the Caf that are defending this guy as a manager.

It seems like the Ole outers are hell bent on proving that Ralf is better than Ole… Who cares? They are both bad. Why do you feel compelled to defend this guy? He’s literally won one major trophy in 20 years of managing clubs. He has the worst managerial record since Dave Sexton, and it’s not close, 41.67% win rate.

The players may be shit, the owners/board may be shit, Ole may have been shit. But that doesn’t mean that Ralf can’t be shit too. And he is. That performance was the worst I’ve ever seen from a Man United side. We were completely unprepared tactically, mentally and physically. How Ralf doesn’t deserve at least a tiny slice of the blame is beyond me.

Managers are not the blame and I have stated that billion times.

Players need to show something. They need to have passion. They need to have pride. Have honour in playing. Fight for themselfs, for teammates, for supporters, for everything. Now, there is nothing. It is just nothing there. There are no characters. Some don't care. Fans and club have made players bigger than the club. Bigger than manager and they are thanking by throwing managers under the bus.

It doesn't matter who manager is. As long as you have pretenders at the club and team problems will still be there. Hopefully there will be lot of them gone this summer and we can start buildning something else.

 

[Foxbatt]

It's delusional to think an inexperienced and unsuccessful manager at this level could come in and transform a team in a short period of time.

This was the case with Ole - his feel good new manager bump was used to justify giving him a full time job despite being worse than the majority of coaches across the top leagues of Europe.

From what I'm seeing with a lot of the "Ralf is a bad manager" posts is fans that haven't learned their lesson. If Ralf came in and had the same type of reaction as Ole as interim, it would be the ultimate display of stupidity from the board to hire him and the fans to be behind him.

Ralf Ragnik has never been at the level to manage Manchester United.

His greatest achievements have been from a footballing director level, helping to transform a club wholistically - style, recruitment, training etc.

His hiring was with the intention of being a behind the scenes consultant after the fact.

He was not given a single transfer.

He is helping advise the club about who to hire as manager, who to bin from the squad.

He is caretaker manager on the field with mixed results.

Frankly, he's doing a fine job for the expectations that SHOULD have been had of him. And from a lot of this thread, fans need this wake up call as much as anyone if you ever thought Ragnik was fit for the job. Much the same way Ole never was.

This is where you may have been wrong. Most fans accept him as to what he is. It is the Ole In crowd that has got their knickers in a twist because their favorite has been sacked and Ralf has taken over and is calling out the past. It does not matter if it is Ralf Rangnick. It could have been Hanis Flick or even Jurgen Klopp. They would still call them out because they have not been an instant success and their idol has been replaced. It has got nothing to do with Ralf.

 

[Irwin99]

Spoiler: Rangnick teaching the United squad to gengenpress

 

[DSG]

And how does that help, that he's a bad manager?

People defending him see the whole context. He was brought in to implement some methods for the next man in line and to asses what is happening at the club. Did they have better options than him until the summer? Yes, probably yes, but, most likely, either the club didn't want to spend the money, or Ralf advised against getting another manager in just for the sake of it.
There are far bigger issues at the club than him not being a good manager and the beloved Man United not making top4 and UCL this season.

The answer is simple, players are average, manager is average, club structure is poor, club culture is non existent, transfers were a mess, wage structure is a mess. What the feck do you think it happens when you badly manage a business?

Everybody deserves a slice of the blame, but that's not the point. During Ralf's short tenure, we and the club found out what the issues were/are and who's onboard or not. That's the best thing that happened to this club since 2013.

Managers are not the blame and I have stated that billion times.

Players need to show something. They need to have passion. They need to have pride. Have honour in playing. Fight for themselfs, for teammates, for supporters, for everything. Now, there is nothing. It is just nothing there. There are no characters. Some don't care. Fans and club have made players bigger than the club. Bigger than manager and they are thanking by throwing managers under the bus.

It doesn't matter who manager is. As long as you have pretenders at the club and team problems will still be there. Hopefully there will be lot of them gone this summer and we can start buildning something else.

It's delusional to think an inexperienced and unsuccessful manager at this level could come in and transform a team in a short period of time.

This was the case with Ole - his feel good new manager bump was used to justify giving him a full time job despite being worse than the majority of coaches across the top leagues of Europe.

From what I'm seeing with a lot of the "Ralf is a bad manager" posts is fans that haven't learned their lesson. If Ralf came in and had the same type of reaction as Ole as interim, it would be the ultimate display of stupidity from the board to hire him and the fans to be behind him.

Ralf Ragnik has never been at the level to manage Manchester United.

His greatest achievements have been from a footballing director level, helping to transform a club wholistically - style, recruitment, training etc.

His hiring was with the intention of being a behind the scenes consultant after the fact.

He was not given a single transfer.

He is helping advise the club about who to hire as manager, who to bin from the squad.

He is caretaker manager on the field with mixed results.

Frankly, he's doing a fine job for the expectations that SHOULD have been had of him. And from a lot of this thread, fans need this wake up call as much as anyone if you ever thought Ragnik was fit for the job. Much the same way Ole never was.

Happy to let history see how this plays out. My prediction is that Ten Hag will be significantly better than Ralf with say, 2-3 strategic buys. He’s going to organize the squad, simplify tactics, improve morale and we’ll be a much better team with essentially the same starting 11 and subs. Fingers crossed.

In the meantime, Ralf will slowly fade from view, both in the club and in the world of football, and end up working for some Bundesliga 2 club or in Poland.

Fortunately, we have preserved all of your comments for posterity, and we’ll be able to pull them up whenever we need a good laugh!

 

[Irwin99]

It’s unbelievable that there are still some in the Caf that are defending this guy as a manager.

It seems like the Ole outers are hell bent on proving that Ralf is better than Ole… Who cares? They are both bad. Why do you feel compelled to defend this guy? He’s literally won one major trophy in 20 years of managing clubs. He has the worst managerial record since Dave Sexton, and it’s not close, 41.67% win rate.

The players may be shit, the owners/board may be shit, Ole may have been shit. But that doesn’t mean that Ralf can’t be shit too. And he is. That performance was the worst I’ve ever seen from a Man United side. We were completely unprepared tactically, mentally and physically. How Ralf doesn’t deserve at least a tiny slice of the blame is beyond me.

I don't think they're defending his results they're defending what he has to work with and his other role as a consultant.

I think it was literally about 4 or 5 games in when Ralf abandoned his pressing system, seemingly feeling as if it was completely unworkable. People blamed Ronaldo when in actual fact he did pretty well at it at times but the team just couldn't sustain it in any coordinated sense. You bring in a manager who is famous for this style and he can't implement it; it's kinda farcical in a way. Just look at the team's mild 'pressing' last night -it's abysmal.

Ralf's role as interim manager has been bad, no one is defending that. But geez, he's inherited a low block, counter attacking team who's luck ran out; players with no confidence and half the squad looking to leave. That's quite a task he had. Not defending him, just illustrating the wider context.

 

[Keefy18]

Happy to let history see how this plays out. My prediction is that Ten Hag will be significantly better than Ralf with say, 2-3 strategic buys. He’s going to organize the squad, simplify tactics, improve morale and we’ll be a much better team with essentially the same starting 11 and subs. Fingers crossed.

In the meantime, Ralf will slowly fade from view, both in the club and in the world of football, and end up working for some Bundesliga 2 club or in Poland.

Fortunately, we have preserved all of your comments for posterity, and we’ll be able to pull them up whenever we need a good laugh!

I don't rate him much myself but what exactly did you expect from RR?

To turn our season around and catch up with City & Liverpool and challenge?

4th was always going to be a struggle even back in November.

I think he should be doing a bit better than he has sure, but your comparison with Ten Haag is ridiculous.

The club will be rid of many toxic players this summer like Jesse, Martial & Pogba with Mata and Matic also leaving. That already gives ETH a big head start. We could also be rid of one or two other players and we've Donny to come back and RR work with some of the younger players and Sancho slowly finding form will also help ETH.

So whilst ETH will still have a huge job on his hands, he'll of been given a head start sort of speak due to RR work done since November.

 

[90 + 5min]

Happy to let history see how this plays out. My prediction is that Ten Hag will be significantly better than Ralf with say, 2-3 strategic buys. He’s going to organize the squad, simplify tactics, improve morale and we’ll be a much better team with essentially the same starting 11 and subs. Fingers crossed.

In the meantime, Ralf will slowly fade from view, both in the club and in the world of football, and end up working for some Bundesliga 2 club or in Poland.

Fortunately, we have preserved all of your comments for posterity, and we’ll be able to pull them up whenever we need a good laugh!

I like you positivity but I don't see this happen unless we change lot more then 2-3 players.

Rangnick can fade and be manager for div 5 team in Island for all I care. It doesn't make him bad manager.

 

[stevoc]

Is Ralf picking Maguire? Or is Fletcher picking Maguire? I don't think there is any chance Ralf picks Maguire if he had any freedom. He did manage to drop him a couple times at the beginning of the year and then unexplicably back in the team and never missed a beat since. No part of me thinks that was Ralf's decision, he's smart enough to figure out Maguire before he got here.

I don't even consider myself an expert on football, just a big fan, but if people are blaming the last 6 months on Ralf, or anyone but the players, you know even less than I do.

You seem to be under the impression that Rangnick isn't actually the current manager?

 

[Sky1981]

I think Ralf has a different agenda.

He ruthlessly played maguire and the rest to show the fans beyond reasonable doubt that they're shit. And they took the bait, downtooling and crying in the media.

Of any Ralph has made it very easy to move these players and give ETH a clean slate.

If he even try and god forbid some of our dross actually play ok we'd be fecked in the long run.

Short term pain amd all that. His job is not a manager he'll become DoF and this is a good opportunity to play his piece correctly

 

[romufc]

Is Ralf picking Maguire? Or is Fletcher picking Maguire? I don't think there is any chance Ralf picks Maguire if he had any freedom. He did manage to drop him a couple times at the beginning of the year and then unexplicably back in the team and never missed a beat since. No part of me thinks that was Ralf's decision, he's smart enough to figure out Maguire before he got here.

I don't even consider myself an expert on football, just a big fan, but if people are blaming the last 6 months on Ralf, or anyone but the players, you know even less than I do.

You must be Absolutely clueless about football if you think Fletcher picks the team.

Clearly you don't know what the manager's role is if you think a technical director picks the team.

 

[Van Piorsing]

I think Ralf has a different agenda.

He ruthlessly played maguire and the rest to show the fans beyond reasonable doubt that they're shit. And they took the bait, downtooling and crying in the media.

Of any Ralph has made it very easy to move these players and give ETH a clean slate.

If he even try and god forbid some of our dross actually play ok we'd be fecked in the long run.

Short term pain amd all that. His job is not a manager he'll become DoF and this is a good opportunity to play his piece correctly

He's truly a sadist, but I do hope he's doing that to expose their incompetence to the core and leave no doubts about ETH's clearout.

His interviews lately sound like he wants to tell the straight truth about dressing room without saying 'they're shit'.

 

[MadDogg]

Is Ralf picking Maguire? Or is Fletcher picking Maguire? I don't think there is any chance Ralf picks Maguire if he had any freedom. He did manage to drop him a couple times at the beginning of the year and then unexplicably back in the team and never missed a beat since. No part of me thinks that was Ralf's decision, he's smart enough to figure out Maguire before he got here.

I don't even consider myself an expert on football, just a big fan, but if people are blaming the last 6 months on Ralf, or anyone but the players, you know even less than I do.

A big reason Maguire keeps being picked is because he's fit. Something that both Varane in particular but also Lindelof to a lesser extent have struggled with. Over the last couple of months Lindelof's form has also dropped away, while Maguire's form has picked up a bit so it's no longer a clear winner there (Lindelof was clearly better for the first half of the season). So it's not like Maguire is being picked ahead of others who are clearly out-performing him.

 

[Thelongsleevesofblomqvist]

It feels that Rangnick doesnt do much to give the players faith then just expecting they give it all? I mean it´s their job, but it´s a quite common strategy among managers to try to trigger your players. It seems like he and everyone has given up, it´s so strange.

 

[Strootman's Finger]

I feel it's hard to really judge Ragnick's qualities as a manager. Mostly due to him being just interim and that he pretty much from the get go has alienated himself with the current squad which is a recipe for disaster short-term. I mean we got to see his trademark gegenpressing for only the first 30 mins of the first match against CP but it has been nowhere to be seen since. I think him being interim and calling everyone out is hurting his reputation outside badly, but will help us significantly in the long-term. Still hold the belief that he is doing this with a firm plan, despite us being absolutely dreadful on the pitch while he is a manager.

You seem to be under the impression that Rangnick isn't actually the current manager?

You must be Absolutely clueless about football if you think Fletcher picks the team.

Clearly you don't know what the manager's role is if you think a technical director picks the team.

I fully understand how a properly run football club operates. I am not sure what you guys think that has to do with how Manchester United operates. Ralf came in with a plan, immediately tried to implement it, and within a month was back to Ole ball with the exact players Ole used, with no one understanding how Maguire, Rashford, McTominey, Shaw, and Wan-Bissaka are still playing regularly. Again, I know what these roles are in other clubs, I know how things are supposed to work, but I reitterate, with complete confidence in what I am saying, there is no way Ralf is managing this team without outside influence, whether it's fletcher, Murtough, Arnold, Joel Glazer, I don't know, but I know one of the most respected men in the world of football is smart enough to see that Maguire should be nowhere near this team.

 

[Rightnr]

You must be Absolutely clueless about football if you think Fletcher picks the team.

Clearly you don't know what the manager's role is if you think a technical director picks the team.

Well, given the masterclass you provided in your post, I am sure he is very educated now.

Alternatively, you are talking bollocks.