Oh dear. That's a shame.
German Football 21/22 | Gladbach sign Farke
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Not gonna lie, his haircut looks proper shite, but then again he isn't the first football player with awful hair.
Oh damn there's an ambulance on the field, was wondering why it was taking a while for the trophy presentation.
I wondered until it was pointed out there was a medical emergency. Such a shame.
Apparently he's in stable condition....it's a photographer.
Said on comms Forsberg is already assistant coach or something at Leipzig....in my head he's still only 25. 
Just noticed that this is the first time since the German reunification that a team located in former East Germany has won a title.
And yes, they're not an old-school GDR club but it's still nice that the region is finally on the map after 30 years.
Union Berlin is probably the only "Traditionsclub" to have a shot at this anytime soon. It's pretty disappointing to see the state of the other former giants. Rostock, Magdeburg and maybe Dresden as low-level 2. Bundesliga teams, Aue, Zwicke, Halle in the 3. Liga, that's it.
And yes, they're not an old-school GDR club but it's still nice that the region is finally on the map after 30 years.
Union Berlin is probably the only "Traditionsclub" to have a shot at this anytime soon. It's pretty disappointing to see the state of the other former giants. Rostock, Magdeburg and maybe Dresden as low-level 2. Bundesliga teams, Aue, Zwicke, Halle in the 3. Liga, that's it.
I'd be surprised if people in the East actually feel like that. Leipzig has nothing to do with their football culture and it's not even like the company deliberately picked Leipzig for their marketing project to rejuvenate the East. They tried to buy St. Pauli (fat chance
) and some of the Ruhr Area clubs first.Well yeah, nobody's claiming them to be homegrown.I'd be surprised if people in the East actually feel like that. Leipzig has nothing to do with their football culture and it's not even like the company deliberately picked Leipzig for their marketing project to rejuvenate the East. They tried to buy St. Pauli (fat chance
But just looking at their latest home games:
37.000 fans
45.000 fans
47.000 fans
35.000 fans
I doubt that they're flying all those people in from Austria.
So even if they're not a conventional football club they're steadily building a fan base just by existing. Ten years from now they'll have fans who literally grew up watching their games.
Or to put it another way, do you think they'd just disappear if RB stopped their engagement? I somehow think they'd have a better chance at survival than Hoffenheim without SAP and probably even Wolfsburg without VW. And of course those odds will increase with each passing year that sees them in the top 4 in Germany.
Then be surprised. The hostility by the Traditions-Snobs from the West might actually be beneficial for RB to create a bond with the local (East German and Leipzig in particular) crowd, at least those who are not diehard ultras. Regular people who are sick of the hooliganism following Chemie/Lok etc. like a bad stench and wouldn't want their kids around that just to watch lower league dross. Those kids will grow up supporting RB 'proper', of that you can be sure.I'd be surprised if people in the East actually feel like that. Leipzig has nothing to do with their football culture and it's not even like the company deliberately picked Leipzig for their marketing project to rejuvenate the East. They tried to buy St. Pauli (fat chance
I'd take these numbers with a grain of salt. These marketing projects know they need full(ish) stadiums for appearances sake. Leverkusen for example cut season ticket prices by 30% before the season. Who knows what they do out of the spotlight to fill their stadium and create appearances.Well yeah, nobody's claiming them to be homegrown.
But just looking at their latest home games:
37.000 fans
45.000 fans
47.000 fans
35.000 fans
I doubt that they're flying all those people in from Austria.
So even if they're not a conventional football club they're steadily building a fan base just by existing. Ten years from now they'll have fans who literally grew up watching their games.
Or to put it another way, do you think they'd just disappear if RB stopped their engagement? I somehow think they'd have a better chance at survival than Hoffenheim without SAP and probably even Wolfsburg without VW. And of course those odds will increase with each passing year that sees them in the top 4 in Germany.
And in comparison we have this:
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Before they went out against Rangers, while they were still in the middle of fighting for top 4, not to mention only buying 1k/2.5k tickets for their EL semi final.
Corona has made its dent of course, but their attendance numbers actually seem to be trending downwards:
Being based in an actual city is of course a big bonus compared to their brethren and it may lead to an actual fan base eventually. But I wouldn't take that for granted. Leverkusen for example is in the middle between Cologne and Düsseldorf. Bonn and Wuppertal are two reasonably big cities nearby, that never really had their own big football club. Yet Bayer couldn't grow their fan base at all, despite playing attractive and reasonably successful football for four decades now.
"All of those, who joined in the past six years, only know higher, faster, further and get exemplified by the club to be consumers. That way a deep, emotional fan bond doesn't develop".
Spokesperson of the umbrella organization of Leipzig fan clubs.
https://www.zeit.de/sport/2022-05/rb-leipzig-dfb-pokalfinale-fans
So who knows what would happen and who would remain if RB pulled out.
"All of those, who joined in the past six years, only know higher, faster, further and get exemplified by the club to be consumers. That way a deep, emotional fan bond doesn't develop".
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No different than any other top level club which had no slumps in the past six years?
Well for starters other clubs are actually football clubs. They have the fan culture and history to actually create an emotional bond. It's harder to form a bond with an Austrian energy drink producer.
Isn't Leipzig also Germany's city with the fastest growth rate, as in people moving there? I reckon that'll help eventually in developing a larger local support of sorts. I think a generation from now kids from Leipzig will probably become adult fans. I remember hearing or reading that the club specifically targets schools to make that happen.
The best that could happen to Leipzig as a club would be Dresden getting promoted. That would be an instant rivalry that could legitimise local support.
The best that could happen to Leipzig as a club would be Dresden getting promoted. That would be an instant rivalry that could legitimise local support.
I think our Hertha fans could tell you a thing or two about your first assumption and while a strong Dresden side would probably help them within Leipzig, I have a feeling people, who don't live there would rather support Dresden.
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Now it's official, Özcan moves from Köln to Dortmund, where he will replace Witsel. It's going to be interesting to see whether he can keep the level of his last 20 games, or if he reverts to his rather disapoointing level he had the years before.
That's my worry. He was touted as a talented player before but wasn't getting a lot of minutes for Koln until this season. Could be that it's just a purple patch.
Still no love in the league for my boy Dennis Geiger.
There are some who do, especially those who are not into football all that much.I'd be surprised if people in the East actually feel like that. Leipzig has nothing to do with their football culture and it's not even like the company deliberately picked Leipzig for their marketing project to rejuvenate the East. They tried to buy St. Pauli (fat chance
He costs €5m and gets a 4 year contract. Unless they go totally ham on the signing fee and wages this should be a low to moderate risk with a pretty big potential upside. At least for now Dahoud and Can are still there, too.
Also look at these tears of happiness, how could he ever fail.
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Kehl probably told him he already lined up Baumgart for next winter.
I guess it won't happen in the winter, but I wouldn't be surprised if they do indeed follow Baumgart closely, especially how he deals with the European schedule next season.
Jokes aside, would you consider Baumgart a good appointment by Dortmund?
I think appointing Terzic is almost inevitable, since him looming in the background creates quite a bit of pressure for whoever else is currently headcoach. But beyond that Baumgart's team is playing some of the best football in Bundesliga and probably closest to what Dortmund want to see from their team - Tedesco, Seoane and a couple of others are way too negative for my liking. Baumgart's populist and "impulsive" nature would also be an asset at a club like Dortmund. So if I was Kehl I'd tell him not to sign anything he couldn't get out of and watch very closely how he does in the future.
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#TheChosenOne, #EdinAtTheWheel, etc.
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Strange decision. They rehire a coach that won the DFB Pokal last year but accumulated less points in the league than Rose.
I don't see a significant progress resulting from this change of coaches.
I don't see a significant progress resulting from this change of coaches.
Are you referring to Rostock's 2. Bundesliga title or what am I missing?Technically not true
Anyway, welcome to the final episode of the Hertha Horror Show...here are the lineups:
HSV: Heuer Fernandes - Heyer, Vuskovic, Schonlau, Muheim - Meffert, Reis, Rohr - Jatta, Glatzel, Kittel
Hertha: Christensen - Pekarik, Boyata, Kempf, Plattenhardt - Tousart, Ascacibar - S. Serdar, K.-P. Boateng, Jovetic - Belfodil
Good to see Magath not trying to be clever again..it's pretty much the best lineup possible.
Well let's see what happens...my odds would be 75% HSV, 25% Hertha.
The last DDR league championship was played 90/91, started before and finished after the reunification happened, and Hansa won the title.Are you referring to Rostock's 2. Bundesliga title or what am I missing?
Yeah, that's very debatable as some people consider it to be the first season of the Oberliga Nordost.
I suppose it comes down to whether this was a DFV or a DFB competition. The DFV disbanded in November 1990 so I'd argue it's not an actual national title.
Good luck @uamini, see you on the other side
Get iiiiiiin! 1-0 Hertha
Great start for Hertha
That was fast.
Missed it writing ANOTHER post about Ralf fecking Rangnick. What is wrong with me.
So far, so good, although Hamburg is visibly growing into the game
My main worry is that Boateng and Jovetic are gonna get tired soon and we'll have to rely on the likes of Mittelstädt, Maolida and Richter to score a second goal.
But he took over late in the season, won the cup and won the last seven league games (only Klopp was ever able to win seven in a row at Dortmund before).
2-0!
fecking Hertha. They have to ruin even this for us.
Dortmund didn't actively replace Rose with Terzic. They intended to keep Rose for at least another season, but then some cracks in their relationship came to light in their end of season analysis, which made both sides rethink their committment.
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Walter needs to bring on Marcelo Diaz!
feck right off