Or Barca are just fortunate that they have very good young talent in that particular position.
The rest of your post may come true and I understand why you and others are scarred by Pogba.
Frenkie de Jong | The last muppeting lap
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik @Rood and Imran @Annihilate Now! start with the good news by celebrating Manchester United Women's emphatic FA Cup win over Spurs at Wembley and the future of manager Marc Skinner.
Then it's the bad news and the ever worsening form of our Men with losses to Arsenal and Palace.
Finally the main debate - ETH Out now or keep him until the end of the season - if not longer. Are you Team Nik or Team Imran?
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The rest of your post may come true and I understand why you and others are scarred by Pogba.
Yeah, this is abit of a issue.
Just such a strange way to go about your business, being known as the click baitiest media around and then coming up with this stuff.
Wonder what the thinking behind this business model is.
You signed up to a Manchester United forum to say this?
I’ve never actually noticed this, but this is pretty interesting. Will keep my eye out on this going forwards.
Were they all worth what he's going to cost and the no doubt high wages since it cant be much less (maybe more?) than at Barcelona?
I havent suggested he wont be a very good player for us. But I'm not sure he's going to have much more of an effect than Pogba where the finances were similar. Hopefully more consistently performing than Pogba, and maybe we find a position for him which we didnt with Pogba... But then again the excuse right now is "Barcelona didnt play him in the right position" - We just had that with Pogba, and several other players, so theres no guarantee we wont hear the same excuse here that hes not in the right position
Essentially what I'm suggesting is, I'm going to be very skeptical if we announce a similar deal to the one he got at Barcelona. And given how much we like to overspend I can see that happening...
Instead given all the circumstances, Barcelona not wanting him, his transfer there clearly not being the succcess they anticipated with the huge build, etc then we should be getting the player at a cut priceand him taking his wages down a reasonable level. If that happens I'll be happy because he clearly has quality on the ball.
Seems to be the way.
Don’t think I saw one post questioning De Jong until it now looks as if he’s coming!
Barca will be sellling off the assets and replacing them with youth products and frees, I just hope we are in front of the queue next season for their next forced sale as well.
There are no parallels with Pogba at all, who was not pushed out of Juventus and whom they would have happily kept. Only similarity is that they are both midfielders who are valued above a few million pounds. So unless the argument is that we should stop buying good players (which seems to have been an indirect argument on here for quite a while tbh), I don't get the comparison.
It won’t cost a huge amount to replace because they have Pedri and Gavi. They already have his replacements. And that’s not a red flag because they’re both amazing talents.
Now even I am getting sucked into this.... He's honestly a brilliant player.
Stop saying 'brief', not all sources are 'briefs' from the club. The idea the football club needs to send out 'briefs' to placate jittery lunatics on the Internet who couldn't point to Old Trafford on a map is a joke. Your second week of June meltdown is of no consequence.
To save yourself the grief
best bet would be to watch out for the "Talksport Sources" tweets. I can never recommend to anyone to actually consume Talksport content I think you are being greedy there. It's hard to do all that list in 1 window (5 quality players in total).
The two assets that Barca were thinking of selling was Gavi or De Jong. They couldn’t sell Gavi since he has one year left and would get more for De Jong so here we are. It’s nothing to do with who they rate.
Nah there were alot of posts comparing him to Di Maria. Now they are comparing him to Pogba. Not long before they start comparing him to Bebe and Djemba-Djemba.
Ten Hag has proved that a midfield of frenkie de jong and VDB can work against top level opposition but we’re just missing the schone type of player that he had at Ajax… I’ve got a feeling he’s gonna play FDJ as the furthest midfielder back with either VDB/Fred/mctominay playing as box to box and Bruno. I’d be happy if we get him and then get a cb and full back and then go in for another midfielder next summer.
That’ll be an absolute extraordinary window if we managed all that
Surely we would have to get rid off a couple to manage all that?
good post to be fairOf course they were? They all became legends at future clubs and were the key players in CL wins/runs and title wins (barring Ozil and Sanchez, since Arsenal). But even those 2 were obviously world class. The fact that Barcelona is ok to sell him doesn't have anything to do with it really. They just want to build towards a different type of midfielder. Pedri is their star to build around, so Frenkie will always be 2nd there and him and Pedri together isn't really a natural pairing given the roles each like to have. Pedri is much more of your traditional Barcelona midfielder like Xavi/Iniesta, rather than Frenkie being more of a Modrić type who likes to operate in the positions late career Scholes liked to operate. That's not your typical Barca midfielder.
And like I said, it's very different to Pogba. Pogba was an advanced player who likes operating in the opposition's half and hates playing in our half, yet we shoe horned him as a deep playmaker. Frenkie is naturally that. And we have Ten Hag in who used him perfectly and had the system where De Jong first stood out. So I wouldn't be concerned with that at all. Personally, he's one where I don't give a feck about the finances. Tchouameni would have been another. They are players who I'm convinced are the right options and the best possible options we could dream of for those roles, so getting them in is the most important. He's a very unique player with a skill set that only a handful of players in Europe have, so if you can get that in with a system that works for him, then you do it. Just look at the difference he makes for Netherlands. He comes in, and he's instantly one of the top 3 midfielders in the league with Thiago and De Bruyne.
No they aren't. They said we were interested in Ox just yesterday.
Also, it was Howson / Rio that first leaked Ronaldos switch if I am not mistaken. Talksport just ride off whatever they see on twitter.
Is he better than VDB?
We be Fecking De jONg 
United under Woodward were absolutely briefing lunatics, but that's because he was an unqualified idiot when it came to running a football club. Whether anything has changed in that respect...who knows
Talksport didn’t break the Ronaldo move. Ole had a press conference essentially confirming with a wink wink we would go for him and pep said Ronaldo will decide where he goes. Plus Rio was hinting stuff even before this. There was shed tons of smoke well before that tweet.
Seeing those updates today, I have been pulled in and am now hopeful
Would be a dream signing if we can pull it off, finally replacing Scholes properly. Would definitely be a statement signing and hugely accelerate our progression with Ten Hag.
Would be a dream signing if we can pull it off, finally replacing Scholes properly. Would definitely be a statement signing and hugely accelerate our progression with Ten Hag.
Talksport is not "Talksport Sources'
Yes and how we account for the spend is a different matter to the actual structure of the deal. If the numbers of are true, and Barca is requesting for us to pay most of the fee upfront, I can see why United only offered 45M. My point was that we can easily go up to 60M over 5 years and in actuality spend less due to time value of money.
Haha fair enough, so Talksport Sources is just a rip off
Barce are desperate for money and the rise of Gavi and Pedri allows them to sell a midfielder to raise funds.
FdJ is class and we won’t find a better midfielder this window.
FdJ is class and we won’t find a better midfielder this window.
Good to know we have him in our back pocketWe are this close.
Is deJong likely to come here still? Alternatively I see Liverpool have released Origi, different type of player but still very good.
Should be a great signing! Need some more midfielders though because there’s no chance we keep everyone fit and the drop off is still far too big.
What?
Always believed in people doing what they want and not be so judgey. I can't imagine myself playing video games heading into my 40's. But if thats peoples thing then thats absolutely fine and are doing no harm. I mean for god sake they could be doing much worse things than playing video gamesI love the fact the Nou_camp99 hasn't replied or posted at all since @Mr Pigeon epic takedown reply earlier on
The poster should have said the actually don't need to replace him because they've already got replacements in Gavi and Pedri, both younger and on lower wages. The one they will need to replace/get a back up for is Busquets and they're bringing in Kessie in the DM position.
Haha honestly I usually wouldn’t have either but its 7:30 am here and I have to go into work today for a meeting so here we are..I’m with you, but I didn’t have the heart to reply to that
The question is if you play them now why would you stop. You don't actually change that much over the years. You don't wake up one morning and suddenly find yourself wearing tweed and tending to your rose bushes.Always believed in people doing what they want and not be so judgey. I can't imagine myself playing video games heading into my 40's. But if thats peoples thing then thats absolutely fine and are doing no harm. I mean for god sake they could be doing much worse things than playing video games
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