My bad, I did forget Billy but, I was thinking of a character that is one of the 'good guys', someone that we mourn.
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Billy was absolutely awesome, despite being a villain, that was a massively tragic death as far as show goes for me.
Started a rewatch the other day, surprised at how good the first season is. None of the cheesiness of later seasons and such brilliant pacing and plotting, the whole deep state thing is really great and Eleven is a fantastic character that season, as are all the kids (except for Lucas who's pretty annoying that season). Season 4 still second-best.
The Demogorgon is also a great antagonist. When it comes out of the wall after Joyce talked with Will via the lights is a great scene
A great villain played very well but I wanted him to die because he was a cnut
Fantastic season thus far and I'm having a massive crush on Robin.
Alternately, Max not dying is a plot point that allows them to realise people can be saved by music… killing her wouldve served less point in the story, other than to have been a bit dark and edgy. I also don’t think it would’ve raised the stakes that much, as I reckon most people would have reasonably thought “Well they’ve done that now… they won’t kill another one” as if anything it would only dilute the poignancy of her death
I get the value of a good shocking death, and the cast is indeed very baggy atm so they could stand to lose a few (though conversely as others have said, Max isn’t one id lose) but I don’t really think it would serve the story very well. Other than doing it for the sake of it.
Anyway, this is easily the second best season. I’d gotten pretty bored with this in seasons 2&3, and this nice turn into horror and a baddie that isn’t just the same basic thing that can only be defeated by Eleven waving her arms about (though it’ll still probably be that) has been a decent uptick.
It’s also been less cloyingly nostalgic. The silly Terminator shit from last season being the nadir.
I don't really get the argument that they need to kill off major characters anyway. Stranger Things is meant to be fun entertainment for (sort of) anyone in their teens or above. It's not the sort of show that needs to kill big characters for shock value. It's not a gritty/adult show like The Wire or Game of Thrones!
Yeah, i dont get it either. Game of Thrones doing it was shocking because of how uncommon it was (with each death having less impact). If every show does it, it stops being surprising and loses most of its value. Your just killing off good characters.
I'd understand if no one was dieing in a horror, slasher series but they've thrown plenty of horrible, gruesome deaths throughout the season. They killed off Russian prisoner #4 damnit, he was a great character.
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Think people need to realise Stranger Things was never a show that would rely on killing off characters and has never paraded as that type of show. Game of thrones and walking dead from the very first season set the tone for main characters dying, stranger things was never that and even when they did it they showed the character still alive at the end of the episode. I think episode 4 was all the more impactful because of the decision to keep the character alive. Its a credit to the show that it doesn't need to rely on characters dying or change the tone of the show to one where every character is at risk of dying. I for one enjoy it for what it is.
Exactly. A friend of mine thinks it's gonna be a bloodbath towards the end of the series, but there's just no way. This show has never been about that, nor has it needed it. Apparently they were gonna kill Steve off in season one but he was too popular, I don't buy that though as the season was complete before it dropped on Netflix.
Basically I would stop watching if they killed off Steve Harrington.
One continuity error I did notice, Susie's dad's pc immediately booted up when they turned the electricity back on. I mean....
I can see Steve dying to save Nancy though...
Also would be funny if Will is actually evil haging come back and will get activated or something (and kills Mike to weaken Eleven)
Also would be funny if Will is actually evil haging come back and will get activated or something (and kills Mike to weaken Eleven)
Steve is everyone’s favourite character along with Dustin, can’t see them killing him off.
Just caught up with it all, loved every second of it.
The main antagonist was so easy to work out because they look exactly like it.
The main antagonist was so easy to work out because they look exactly like it.
Great (half) Season so far... Except everything to with Eleven, which is incredibly dull compared to the Russia/Hawkins stuff.
Exactly that. The Walking Dead especially had this problem of killing off all the important main characters just to have a shock effect and have higher tv views. Most deaths were really unnecessary. What's left are a bunch of uninteresting characters nobody gives a toss about. That's one of the reasons why the tv ratings are so low.
Me personally I think killing off good characters is just lazy writing. Stranger Things doesn't need that.
And eventually (for me anyway) GoT relied too much on it, so it became just for the shock value of 'OMGZ Look what Main Character we killed!' without actually having a decent story/reason for them to be killed
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Its not for shock value. Theres too many characters, so now they break them into multiple teams of 3s and 4s where each character barely does anything or has any individual progression and they keep adding new characters and then deciding to keep them as main characters. Like the scientist guy who can speak Russian.
So for example in 7 episodes of season 4 Will has just had a scene where he's jealous. Thats like all he's done the whole season. Dustin has had 1 good idea figuring something out and had some banter with Steve. Thats from 7 episodes. Thats what you get when there are like 13 main characters + Eddie. And they're obviously going to add more characters the next season too. So getting rid of 3 or 4 and getting more character development from the characters that people actually like and were waiting to see what happens next with is going to be better than seeing their entire season summed up in 1 sentence.
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Also the oars/flashlight in the upside down when they had to swim through the portal didnt make sense. Also I'm 99% sure the code on he PC was C# which wasn't invented until like 2000.
Minor issues in a fantastic series/season though.
Minor issues in a fantastic series/season though.
The 2nd part of the series only has 2 episodes though. That kind of sucks !
100% and it was the same in The Walking Dead...although that had multiple other reasons it turned to shite too. A few of the characters they killed off though just completely destroyed my interest in the show.
It's nearly become an overused trope at this stage, dont thing ST needs it.
There is one more season yet to come though!
The new characters and some of the old ones as well are unbearably corny and overacted. Struggling to watch this new season.
Also, feels a bit like everybody in the production team has checked out and just repeat the good stuff from previous seasons in a cheap way.
Also, feels a bit like everybody in the production team has checked out and just repeat the good stuff from previous seasons in a cheap way.
• how come El the cool bitchy trendsetter is now turned into a clumsy hillbilly? In California?
• "hey let's create a monster that gets bigger off the population? Yeah, instead of pulpy rats let's make him hover humans? Yeah maaan, let'ssss gooooo"
• everybody's clothes are crispy new, every fecking scene
• "hey let's create a monster that gets bigger off the population? Yeah, instead of pulpy rats let's make him hover humans? Yeah maaan, let'ssss gooooo"
• everybody's clothes are crispy new, every fecking scene
Just finished the eps so far for S4, I thought it was fantastic. Really creepy and great storyline. Probably right up there with season 1 when it comes to enjoyment, for me. I'm honestly surprised with some of the negative comments in this thread... Yes it's a bit "samey-samey" but that's just what the story and world is all about.
Season 4 has two great moments, which are among the best moments of the whole series. I also like the more creepy and horror vibe. A lot of the show, though, feels increasingly formulaic and forced, the characters are getting stale and less likeable, there are too may different plots that are not all strong enough to fill the season and drag on a bit. It's still a okayish to decent show with some really good highlights, but the charm is waning for me and has done so for quite some time now.
I'm really loving this season - in fact, I think it's pulled me in and with more enthusiasm than any of the previous seasons. There's no very clearly definable reason, it just comes together as a whole really.
Looked like standard HTML to me.
Which was published 1992
There was both, and the html is from like wikihow or some shite
Yeah, this is more like goonies than game of thrones.
This season has leant more on the horror vibe, but I would still be surprised to see any of the main cast die, not that we could do with it. The group with Mike and Will really doesn't need much focus.
Watched the third episode and it just gets worse and worse.
My favourite so far this season has to be the Crash Bandicoot bats flying around the upside down. And luckily they're shown every third scene because
My favourite so far this season has to be the Crash Bandicoot bats flying around the upside down. And luckily they're shown every third scene because
Brilliant season. It's up as there as one of the most watchable shows ever.
Anyone complaining of cheesiness - it's been present the whole time. It's part of the charm. Admittedly the karate and Ryder being very hammy took it up a notch, but all part of the fun. This isn't The Wire.
I did however find the mix incredible loud, with constant loud/bassy jarring fx for every little thing like closing a door, putting a bag down, turning a torch on. It was a bit much at times.
Anyone complaining of cheesiness - it's been present the whole time. It's part of the charm. Admittedly the karate and Ryder being very hammy took it up a notch, but all part of the fun. This isn't The Wire.
I did however find the mix incredible loud, with constant loud/bassy jarring fx for every little thing like closing a door, putting a bag down, turning a torch on. It was a bit much at times.
Max’s scene was great, but I’m a bit confused about why it’s sparked such interest in the song. It’s always been a banger. Did so many people really not know about it?
You're wondering why a song released 37 years ago wasn't popular with younger people? It's a great song, for sure, but most generations prefer "their own" music. Hell, this one is older than most millennials, let alone the zoomers.
It was a decent season. I know it’s always had it’s oddballs, but I don’t remember it being quite as ridiculous as it is now. Seems like every other character is a lunatic now. The main group fighting Vecna was the only real interest for me. The Russia stuff was a bit stupid, as was the California arc. Stranger Things is at its best when it retains that creepiness and mystery.
Feature length episodes though. Ep8 is 1hour 25 and ep 9 finale is 2 hours 30.
Seems not! Hopefully it's put people on to her other work too.
Yeah, the whole sideshow of Mike and that is nonsense and needless extra filler. Russia was decent enough, only as a break from the main storyline, the only filler we really needed.
Also I found it very obvious that
The guy in her memories was going to be 001 from the first time we see him, and it quickly became obvious he'd be the bad guy
All in all though, it's the best since season 1.
Well yeah, it’s not my generation’s music and all my mates love that tune and have done since we’ve been in our early 20s. Many people love 80s music.
It’s hardly a requirement to be from said generation to know one of the biggest songs from that time.
How old are you?
I'm pretty sure I heard the Placebo cover before I heard the Kate Bush original.