Limp Bizkit released a new album last year. Genuinely pretty enjoyable (well apart from the skits), Dirty Rotten Bizkit and Dad Vibes in particular.
Of course that part is mostly subjective, but I highly suspect it to be the case. Even Nimic’s graphic that we know very little about shows Gen Z prefers 80s to 90s.
I’ve already detailed why it’s absolutely a very important era for music, and that’s not subjective. That there was a lot cringey shit is irrelevant to the importance of the stuff that wasn’t. Cringe is also a huge factor in the nostalgia of the 80s - see Stranger Things.I really dont think 80's is seen as a particularly strong era of music by most. There was way, way too much cringy, terrible shit amongst the good. Who the hell thinks the 80's was cool?
I highly doubt the 10s will. A very unremarkable decade. The 60s, 70s, and 80s we’re iconic for various standout reasons, with huge new movements that have come to represent each era. You don’t have that for the last two decades. You do for the 90s to an extent, to be fair.
Yeah. And all I did was say I was mildly surprised at how few people do know it
Yes definitely. People downplaying how big the 80s was for music, both in terms of how it was made and how it was consumed is baffling at best. The Sony Walkman came out in 1979 ffs. With the first portable CD player not that long after.
Gen Z don’t remember the 90s and have been bombarded by 80s nostalgia for the past entire decade.
… because the 80s is 20 years older than the 00s?
Yeah, bombarded with it for the many reasons outlined
You don’t know that, because you weren’t/aren’t either culturally embedded in them, or benefitting from the selective hagiography of future nostalgia.
You’ve thrown some theories around but they are very much just that. You said something I said was subjective but have essentially made up reasons for things happening based on nothing, as if it’s gospel.
Peak Caf.
The whole thing is peak caf. Literally has just been theories with nothing to back them up vs a theory with loads to back it up that someone decided to make a meal out of.
Peak.
Maybe? I used the Billboard Year-End number one single in the "Pop" category (because it's about as objective as any other conceivable method). Here are all 30 songs from 1980 to 2009, in order of Spotify plays:
The 80's had lots of cheesy stuff. Some entertaining, some cringeworthy and some both. But it was also a decade of lots of very very good music indeed. The 90's had its moments but on average I think things have been trending downhill since then. Subjective of course (despite me being right
)Surely the 90s has already been in that cycle for years? Both in fashion and music, at least in the UK, which is something that hasn’t been mentioned yet. Potentially, 90s nostalgia is stronger in the UK than some other areas?
Yeah sorry I was more speaking to the contention that the 2000/10s music wouldn't get the same treatment in the future. I was also unable to sleep and lazily mentioned 90s. Fashion is a different thing I feel and seems to be moving quicker but we're yet to see a return of bootcut jeans or has that already started happening?
Have you ever been to a rugby match or watched an episode of Top Gear? They never went away there.
Even better when paired with a set of brown loafers I find.
They never went away in parts of rural Ireland either but I'm not sure that counts.
Is there any other way?
Absolutely. The whole discussion is pretty odd to me, because I'd be hardly surprised if many people in their 30s did not know the song. I was born in the 80s. There were plenty of 80s songs that were still popular enough in the 90s and 00s to be played at parties, in commercials or that were for other reasons widely familiar to people of my generation ("pop culture"). This wasn't one of them. My first reaction to the song during the "Max scene" was "This sounds like this one Placebo song" and there was no way I could have named the singer. From what I have gathered lots of people my age felt the same. So it's hardly surprising that kids half my age didn't know it.
I couldn’t remember anything either and it didn’t seem to matter
Ironically, Go West is the sort of shit that dominated the airwaves in the 80s, along with hair metal, Stock Aitken and Waterman, Madonna and fecking Phil Collins.
Very west. I was supposed to have heard Kate Bush growing up in India, it appears.
In the open air?
Nailed on in about ten years we’ll be seeing the same conversations about Livin’ La Vida Loca being the pinnacle.
We won't because we ignore the crap and focus on the good stuff. Just like the 80s mainstream wasn't really all New Order and The Smiths and the Pixies and Prince (although they were part of the mix) the late 90s and early 00s revivals will be the White Stripes and the Strokes and Radiohead and Daft Punk or some such even though the radio was all Ricky Martin, Effiel 65, Britney, Louis Bega and Cher (all of which still gets played where shit music proliferates to this day).
Upside Down by the Jesus & Mary Chain.
Hey, I’m not going to take slander of Britney and Cher. Believe by Cher is a great song, as is for instance Toxic or Everytime by Britney.
To me those are just disposable manufactured pop ditties. Although I happily can't for the life of me remember everytime.
Yeah you have a point. Football and hipster fashion especially.
I bet you had a website with a countdown, you freak.
Tell me about it! )He reminds me of what Kermit would look like as a human
