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How do you know, what he knows is legit or not?This guy Simon mullock knows a lot without knowing anything.
How do you know, what he knows is legit or not?This guy Simon mullock knows a lot without knowing anything.
You’re very aggy aren’t youHow is it difficult to understand? If a large portion of the budget goes on FDJ - doesn’t leave much for anyone else. If a sizeable chunk of the budget goes on Antony, we won’t have enough for FDJ.
Not that hard to figure out
I seriously don’t understand some of the stuff that gets posted on here. Hence the sarcy responses at timesYou’re very aggy aren’t you
Someone could be asking the most innocent question and you’ll just go off on them, it kills meI seriously don’t understand some of the stuff that gets posted on here. Hence the sarcy responses at times
This. Doesn't make any sense.The squad is getting gutted regardless what difference does it make if it's us that's doing it?
Bayern have taken 2, if we have to pick Antony then Arsenal may still get Martinez, Haller is going to Dortmund
This is Manchester United..Antony brief. Hopefully we get this done quickly.
Former Liverpool-based journo until VVD called him out on Twitter, now he suddenly covers United also. He probably knows nothing about UnitedHow do you know, what he knows is legit or not?
Liverpool were being linked with Nunez back in May.This is Manchester United..
Van de Beek is the only deal in the last few years I can remember getting done within a week or two of the first serious links.
I envy that Liverpool and Chelsea for example seem to sign players within days of the first big talk of it happening, Nunez the most recent example
“First big talk of it happening”Liverpool were being linked with Nunez back in May.
Depends how you want to define it. You just seem a bit miserable really, no offence like.“First big talk of it happening”
Yeah its fecking annoying. Its like he's Ronaldinho. Get it over with or move on. No business until FDJ gets done is bizzare.This FdJ stuff is getting tiresome. Makes you wonder what's going on if we're willing to show our have so much and say we aren't signing anybody else until he's done.
Just wish we signed Bissouma and moved on to other targets.This FdJ stuff is getting tiresome. Makes you wonder what's going on if we're willing to show our have so much and say we aren't signing anybody else until he's done.
This differs..ETH's full backs underlap more than they overlap. For this it's extremely important that they are good passers of the ball. Dalot suits this. I don't personally think Elanga excels at any of the things ETH would need from his full back. I don't really see him contributing much at all tbh. Could see him going on loan.
How to Bissouma and De Jong relate though. It's not like they're similar players. In truth we need both of their types.Just wish we signed Bissouma and moved on to other targets.
With that Dutch journalist reporting that Haller & Alvarez are the two players are the two players that Ajax are happy to cash in on this summer and Mazraoui and Gravenberch already gone, it wouldn't suprise me if this ultimately ends up being the case. They have no need to sell and every reason to try and keep Martinez/Antony this summer, so they should be demanding prohibitively high prices.Tweet
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Very interestingThis differs..
I hear so much people saying Ten Hag's formation is this and that and his fullback do this and that, but Ten Hag his strenghts is that he adapts and has different nuances every year.
One year he plays with a false 9 in Tadic, the other with a target man in Haller.
One year he plays with a #10 a la Donny who is more of a goalscorer, the other with Berghuis who is more a playmaker
One year he play with a real winger at RW like Antony, the other with Ziyech who is more like a playmaker.
Blind is a whole different type of fullback than Blind
Timber is a whole different type of central defender than Matthijs de Ligt
Mazraoui is more a right full back who comes inside as an extra midfielder, but Ten Hag was also very happy with Dest who goes via the wing.
Ten Hag adapts to what kind of players he has in his team who he trusts in who have qualities he values. Then he looks for combinations of players who play well together. Mazraoui-Antony, Donny-Tadic, Schone-Frenkie, Blind-Tadic..
There is not one formula he blindly follows. He wants players who are smart, who he can trust, who have control over the ball, and who arent afraid to press forward. That can still results in many different types of players in the same positions...
I like this bit. Do you think Erisken and De Jong would be a good combination like Schone And De Jong?This differs..
I hear so much people saying Ten Hag's formation is this and that and his fullback do this and that, but Ten Hag his strenghts is that he adapts and has different nuances every year.
One year he plays with a false 9 in Tadic, the other with a target man in Haller.
One year he plays with a #10 a la Donny who is more of a goalscorer, the other with Berghuis who is more a playmaker
One year he play with a real winger at RW like Antony, the other with Ziyech who is more like a playmaker.
Blind is a whole different type of fullback than Blind
Timber is a whole different type of central defender than Matthijs de Ligt
Mazraoui is more a right full back who comes inside as an extra midfielder, but Ten Hag was also very happy with Dest who goes via the wing.
Ten Hag adapts to what kind of players he has in his team who he trusts in who have qualities he values. Then he looks for combinations of players who play well together. Mazraoui-Antony, Donny-Tadic, Schone-Frenkie, Blind-Tadic..
There is not one formula he blindly follows. He wants players who are smart, who he can trust, who have control over the ball, and who arent afraid to press forward. That can still results in many different types of players in the same positions...
My feeling is if we signed at least one midfielder we would have moved on to other targets. As it seems Frenkie is the one holding all other targets.How to Bissouma and De Jong relate though. It's not like they're similar players. In truth we need both of their types.
I think Frenkie and Fred (or Mejbri or Garner) with Eriksen more forward would work. Bruno would the compete with Amad for the right wing spotI like this bit. Do you think Erisken and De Jong would be a good combination like Schone And De Jong?
Tbf RVP was a very late bloomer in terms of goalscoring. He didn't reach 20 goals in a season for Arsenal until 2008/09 and 2011/12 was the 1st season where you would say he really became an elite goalscorer. If Antony was to follow this path you could argue it would take him 5 seasons here before he reached similar numbers to what Rashford has in 2 of his last 3 seasons. Obviously Antony and RVP are very different players so can't really draw a direct comparison, but let's not act like RVP was immediately a world beater after joining Arsenal.Not quite...
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Everyone and their mother was being linked with Nunez back in May, truth of the matter is we don't know how early any club made contact with the player.Liverpool were being linked with Nunez back in May.
I thougth about that, but Im not sure Eriksen fully fits that to be honest.. I think he is too good in the final phase of the game... Schone mainly complemented Frenkie as he was always sitting tight in the central area behind the ball when Ajax was attacking. I think Eriksen could do that but it would be a waste of his qualities...I like this bit. Do you think Erisken and De Jong would be a good combination like Schone And De Jong?
Considering all the talk is about getting Antony who you yourself said was a real winger, would that not suggest that ETH would want more of an underlapping rb since that is the role Mazraoui played with Antony ahead of him. If Antony plays primarily wide and our rb also overlaps they'll just be getting in each other's way and we won't have anyone covering the half space.This differs..
I hear so much people saying Ten Hag's formation is this and that and his fullback do this and that, but Ten Hag his strenghts is that he adapts and has different nuances every year.
One year he plays with a false 9 in Tadic, the other with a target man in Haller.
One year he plays with a #10 a la Donny who is more of a goalscorer, the other with Berghuis who is more a playmaker
One year he play with a real winger at RW like Antony, the other with Ziyech who is more like a playmaker.
Blind is a whole different type of fullback than Tagliafico
Timber is a whole different type of central defender than Matthijs de Ligt
Mazraoui is more a right full back who comes inside as an extra midfielder, but Ten Hag was also very happy with Dest who goes via the wing.
Ten Hag adapts to what kind of players he has in his team who he trusts in who have qualities he values. Then he looks for combinations of players who play well together. Mazraoui-Antony, Donny-Tadic, Schone-Frenkie, Blind-Tadic..
There is not one formula he blindly follows. He wants players who are smart, who he can trust, who have control over the ball, and who arent afraid to press forward. That can still results in many different types of players in the same positions...
And Koundé.This is Manchester United..
Van de Beek is the only deal in the last few years I can remember getting done within a week or two of the first serious links.
I envy that Liverpool and Chelsea for example seem to sign players within days of the first big talk of it happening, Nunez the most recent example
Could definitely be, but it can also work on other ways.. Antony is indeed a real (inverted) RW who works well with an underlapping Mazraoui this year.. But Ajax - in the Dutch league - very often plays against opponents who park the bus meaning the RW often stays very wide. He on the other hand is - if you look at some of the highlight video's for example - also very good at coming inside.. Perhaps at United and in the PL - where more games will have lesser difference in quality between the two teams - there will be more space for him in the opponents half and he will have a slighty different role coming inside than at Ajax, which could argue for an overlapping fullback...Considering all the talk is about getting Antony who you yourself said was a real winger, would that not suggest that ETH would want more of an underlapping rb since that is the role Mazraoui played with Antony ahead of him. If Antony plays primarily wide and our rb also overlaps they'll just be getting in each other's way and we won't have anyone covering the half space.
I think United inability to get deals done quickly is a genuine concern amongst fans and within the clubDepends how you want to define it. You just seem a bit miserable really, no offence like.
Ronaldo took a while to be fair. Cavani too.This is Manchester United..
Van de Beek is the only deal in the last few years I can remember getting done within a week or two of the first serious links.
I envy that Liverpool and Chelsea for example seem to sign players within days of the first big talk of it happening, Nunez the most recent example
I think Frenkie and Fred (or Mejbri or Garner) with Eriksen more forward would work. Bruno would the compete with Amad for the right wing spot
To be fair, Bruno is clearly no right winger.What
The Bruno disrespect is absolutely insane. Defo the weirdest development I've seen in a long while
To be fair, Bruno is clearly no right winger.
The Bruno bashing comes almost exclusively from the same few Pogba fanboys (yeah, I don't understand either).What
The Bruno disrespect is absolutely insane. Defo the weirdest development I've seen in a long while
Amad is more a right winger than Bruno is. At any level. That said, I agree that there is no comparison in their status.Defo not, but to be fair Nor is Amad at the moment a serious right winger ready for first team football.
No where close to being ready to step in.
Daft he in competition with Bruno as Bruno can't get a look in anywhere else in the pitch apparently, he is our best player
Amad is more a right winger than Bruno is. At any level. That said, I agree that there is no comparison in their status.
Assume you mean Konate. Oddly Chelsea have been talking about Kounde for over 12 months so it’s not just at United these things can happen.And Koundé.