Bailly is an odd one, in that I still think there's some hope if was given a proper chance again, yes it's all gone a bit wrong, but it's not like a Jones situation, where all hope is lost.Tweet
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It was well reported that Ole misled players on gametime to convince them to stay.Ole didn't give out the contracts, Woodward did
That's not the same as him giving out the contractsIt was well reported that Ole misled players on gametime to convince them to stay.
He helped decide who should be renewed.That's not the same as him giving out the contracts
Said a couple of weeks ago I feel we'll see more departures once everyone is back and the tour is done. Most players will take the opportunity to try and impress the new manager rather than head off before then, but expect that will change once ETH tells them himself that they're not in his plans.Tweet
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Because we stopped caring about how our players were as people in the last 8-9 years. There wasn't an interest in if their personality was a good fit.How do we keep signing so many unprofessional players? Go somewhere you'll actually play games and earn your salary packet, you lazy bum.
If he's saying it for the right reasons and is able to stay professional if he still doesn't play much then no. It's not like it's impossible for him to be an option again given the players ahead of him right now either.As much as I would like the club to sell Bailly, why is it a bad thing that he wants to fight for a first team space?
Surely as a club we want players to be wanting to fight to be involved? And if he has stated that he wants to stay and fight for a place then surely that's not a bad thing?!
Because that attitude won’t persist it he isn’t playing and just contributes to the toxic atmosphere we’ve seen recently.As much as I would like the club to sell Bailly, why is it a bad thing that he wants to fight for a first team space?
Surely as a club we want players to be wanting to fight to be involved? And if he has stated that he wants to stay and fight for a place then surely that's not a bad thing?!
As much as I would like the club to sell Bailly, why is it a bad thing that he wants to fight for a first team space?
Surely as a club we want players to be wanting to fight to be involved? And if he has stated that he wants to stay and fight for a place then surely that's not a bad thing?!
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:P it’s not close anymore!
People were saying that 2/3 years ago. It's time to move on.Bailly is an odd one, in that I still think there's some hope if was given a proper chance again, yes it's all gone a bit wrong, but it's not like a Jones situation, where all hope is lost.
Yep - I'd love to be pleasantly surprised but there's absolutely nothing that makes me think Bailly is worth keeping around. Hopefully he gets told as much soon.Bailly has been here what 6 years? It's so weird that people still want to give him a chance to prove himself and come good. Clubs like City or Chelsea would have binned him off ages ago.
Pretty much. None of the "clean slate" stuff. Some players need to be told they won't even make the bench if they refuse to leave. About time the club starts getting harsh with certain players, even though I do have a soft spot for Bailly.It needs to be made very clear to him that he has no future here.
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If he can stay fit........he can still leave.It needs to be made very clear to him that he has no future here.
Came in to post exactly this.Of course you would. That big salary without needing to bother doing much. Cheers Ole
Sure,sure, he was like "No Eddie, stop it, dont extend them, dont want them here, need those wages to fund something else, stop it" and they did it anyway, which makes him look even worse.Ole didn't give out the contracts, Woodward did
Clubs like Chelsea and City haven't had the sort of management we've had over the last few years.Bailly has been here what 6 years? It's so weird that people still want to give him a chance to prove himself and come good. Clubs like City or Chelsea would have binned him off ages ago.
That's exactly why clubs only want loans, no one is in a position to sign them on permanent deals due to mental wagesSo many of our fringe players are content to sit on their massive wages and not play any football, it really calls their character into question and stresses the need for us to analyse the mentality of players before we sign them in the future.
Says who?Because that attitude won’t persist it he isn’t playing and just contributes to the toxic atmosphere we’ve seen recently.
I agree. Bailly should be moved on if possible.Haven't we heard this shite a million times before? He's made of biscuit anyway, what's it worth having a player wanting to fight for a spot he's never healthy enough to claim.
Exactly, These players aren't stupid. Most of them know this is as good as they're ever going to get. Also, look at the ones who went out on loan, how many can the staying players see that it's worked out for?can't force a player to leave I guess. Some of those players will just sit out the ridiculous contracts they were able to get from our shambolic management and there's nothing we can really do about it at this point. From a football standpoint, it should be abundantly clear to both Bailly and Jones that they don't have a future here, especially if we add Martinez ... but that won't stop them fromsitting out their fat contract, ahem, fight for their place.