Apparently Mark Ogden from ESPN said this the about Barcelona recently “Manchester United found it difficult to deal with FC Barcelona because the club told them one thing & said another thing to the press/fans; they were then wondering which was the real story.
Frenkie de Jong | The last muppeting lap
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Yeah because we wouldn't do the same.
Do people not remember the whole Ronaldo to Real Madrid saga? We wouldn't sell them a virus, we've no intention of selling, he's happy here, he's committed, dedicated etc. He won't be leaving us.... shortly after "Manchester United accept £80m bid for Ronaldo"
You don't go admitting you want to flog your best players. That truly does make you look weak!
He will be the first player ever to take a wage cut to stay at a club who are looking to sell him and not showing him any love.....................absolute fannies about us these days.
A 100% paycut would mean he'd be playing for free. He probably doesn't love Barca that much.
If this goes badly. . .
Where is Wes Sneijder playing ?
It can’t. But they cannot afford his contract increase which I believe happened on the 1st July and I don’t see how this new economic claw saves them for next summer continuing to be ran like this.
Perhaps a better idea of what happens with Ronaldo, a couple of new signings over the line, Eriksen and Malacia…
A swap with PSG for Neymar… who knows but launching a new kit and this news coming out the next day makes sense to me to delay…
I didn’t think it was to parade new signings at the time but know it seems that unfortunately wasn’t the case
I actually think he will, but opposed to Barca we don't go bust if we don't sell him
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It's over. Just forget it. It's done, move on.
To the next target because Frenkie is in the bag.
To the next target because Frenkie is in the bag.
Probably announce the deal is agreed Monday or Tuesday then?
The point is both clubs have come out and said "We have no intention to sell"
That kind of statement doesn't guarantee anything
We're signing FDJ, but that's a solid last minute panic replacement buy shoutWjinaldum
It doesn't, I know. I'm absolutely sure FDJ will be a United player, in all likelihood by next weekend
None of us are sure but there’s obviously some kind of way they can. I’m not saying this is a good thing for them, Barca are ran like a shambles and I can’t see why Barca continuing to be incompetent can be so easily ruled out
Oh dear.
De Jong is not happening, and now Ronaldo wants out.
This is going to be one long season ahead.
De Jong is not happening, and now Ronaldo wants out.
This is going to be one long season ahead.
Anyone that thinks this move is off
Literally all credible sources that we value have all said the fee is agreed and the deal will be done soon.
What exactly has changed?
Literally all credible sources that we value have all said the fee is agreed and the deal will be done soon.
What exactly has changed?
Has there ever been a case of a club openly admitting to wanting to sell their best players?
Even when a player comes out and says they want to leave, the club will mostly always say "We have no intention of selling"
It's just common sense really if you ask me.
In my opinion, nothing at all
Just Barca saving face and saying they're doing all they can to keep FDJ, but in the end, they'll say their hands were tied and they'll blame La Liga or whatnot for them HAVING to sell
Agreed. But they are a shambles. I don’t think they could last with Frenkie on his new wages.
You don’t make a statement like that when you are in the final stages of a negotiation. Either we are miles away from an agreement or Barcelona have changed their mind and just don’t want to sell
Well that was a great feckin day. Ronaldo wants out and the de Jong deal looks like it could be off.
Both are false.
We make a signing or 2, Ronaldo does a huge "U turn", and we romp into the season with the huge bonus that he's properly on board, and we have a magical season.
I can sees it now.
As far as I'm aware they already signed them but couldn't register them due to the wage cap. The TV deal didn't allow them to register them either. irrc they needed Frenkie's increased wages for next season off the books to do that.
You do when the supporters will be mad he got sold to Manchester United , so you plant the seed of the salary being the issue.
I hope you are right bud
Guys, stop quoting Laporta on Messi. When he said that, he actually believed Messi would stay because Tebas assured him Barca signing LaLigas cvc deal allows them to keep Messi. But then Florentino Perez called Laporta and reminded him cvc deal will be for 50 years and it prevents their superleague. So Laporta had to chose between 2-3 years Messi and a bad cvc deal, which also prevents the superleague for 50 years or release Messi. He chose the latter.
Right now it's a different story. Frenkie has his Bartomeu contract which guarantees him an absurd amount starting this season. Way above the new wage limit Laporta's board set. Barca doesn't want to sell Frenkie, but they also want to reduce their wage bill. So there is a possibility to sell Frenkie if he doesn't agree to the new wage limit. But if Frenkie loves it so much in barcelona and he agrees to do without Bartomeus promised money there will be no selling. In terms of liquidity, barca needs no money. They will activate the 2nd lever and sell the 15% tv money for round about €400m which will take the pressure of LaLiga's ffp.
In the end, it will depend only on Frenkie. The negotiations between those clubs take place in case Frenkie decides to leave. No one can force him.
Right now it's a different story. Frenkie has his Bartomeu contract which guarantees him an absurd amount starting this season. Way above the new wage limit Laporta's board set. Barca doesn't want to sell Frenkie, but they also want to reduce their wage bill. So there is a possibility to sell Frenkie if he doesn't agree to the new wage limit. But if Frenkie loves it so much in barcelona and he agrees to do without Bartomeus promised money there will be no selling. In terms of liquidity, barca needs no money. They will activate the 2nd lever and sell the 15% tv money for round about €400m which will take the pressure of LaLiga's ffp.
In the end, it will depend only on Frenkie. The negotiations between those clubs take place in case Frenkie decides to leave. No one can force him.
Im not saying it wont happen. Im saying they dont need the money from his sale if he took a wage cut since are selling tv rights for alot more than they would get for him
Just read up on what United were saying during the whole Ronaldo to Madrid saga.
We said numerous times he wasn't for sale and he wouldn't be leaving, and look what happened. What a club says, and what a club does are two totally different things
I simply don't buy it because if their intention was to keep him why have they allowed negotiations for 2 months then including AFTER having the economic levers approved? That would have been the perfect time to tell us to feck off if they knew they had actual financial security to keep him
It's not like Sancho at all because Dortmund outrightly refused to negotiate with us after the deadline. Barcelona have been negotiating with us for months. Simply makes zero sense to keep things going then make a complete 180 at an unusual time
This is the standard Spanish playbook.
Pep or money.
Player parties too hard and not focused on football.
Player refused a pay adjustment.
They’ll say everything before admitting they are broke.
Pep or money.
Player parties too hard and not focused on football.
Player refused a pay adjustment.
They’ll say everything before admitting they are broke.
Look at it logically.I hope you are right bud
Multiple T1 sources on both sides are saying this deal is either done, will happen or is close to completion.
Barca hasn't changed their mind because their situation hasn't changed, it has arguably gotten worse as his wages have increased massively.
Everything points to him leaving.
Just positioning themselves to blame it on big bad Javier Tebas and La Liga that they had to sell.
Let us all become Liverpool fans. It seems like they do everything right.
This seems to be the consensus as to why he made these statements. The Barca fans have known he was probably going to leave for fecking ages now and Barca's stance has always been they'd keep him if they could but understood they had to sell.
Why the sudden change so deep into an agreement? Just makes them look weak if they really had come to the understanding he was leaving
Anyway, hopefully you guys are right, but the stalling and lack of movement for a while is synonymous with our targets in the past who end up falling through
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