Tallis
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Let’s go after Fabian Ruiz. Will cost less in transfer fee and less in wages.
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Well tbf we might’ve signed a number of players other clubs have already snapped up had we not been totally focused on a transfer for a player who doesn’t want to be here which was never going to happen.Caf: We should walk away, he doesn’t want to come, it’s off, why haven’t we got other targets? We should leak other midfield players etc….
United link to other midfielders
Caf: oh god not him, he’s shite. No thanks
Never fecking happy.
It's not the cafs darling it's a question of opinion.Ah yes, the golden child. The cafs darling. A player some are as fixated with as bloody bissouma of that lad that ended up at Villa on a free.
Sorry but, ironically, if neves moves he ends up at Barcelona.
Absolutely. He would get that or even more at every top 6 club in the premier league. Even at Bayern, who aren't known for being big spenders, he probably would earn more.And make no mistake here, De Jong’s new contract guarantees him 260k euros /week for the duration of the 6 year contract. It’s look bad on the salary sheet now though, due to saving so much on his past two seasons.
No one in the club is looking at him as a mercenary when his salary is something we would expect for any top player at any top club. 260k /week just isn’t very high with today’s wages.
They absolutely are when it comes to wagesAbsolutely. He would get that or even more at every top 6 club in the premier league. Even at Bayern, who aren't known for being big spenders, he probably would earn more.
Still Barcelona was known to have the biggest wage bill for some time now.
And Barcelona wants a further pay cut? He will be at 10 million are less then. Even players like Süle, Reus or Hummels earn more at the "feeder" club Dortmund.
If the salary cap is really 10m Euro gross, I doubt any to top player like Silva or Lewandowski will come. The latter earns 23m Euro gross at Munich. Now he is throwing the kitchen sink to get out of his current contract to join a club that will pay him less than half at max?
Again I have no inside knowledge but a lot of numbers going around here just don't add up or make sense.
Those 8 will be net, though, while Uniteds offer surely was grossJust a note that Pogba wanted 20 million and United gave him 14 but now he settled for 8 million at Juve.
Mad!
Agreed. Barca are according to reports paying Kesse and Christensen more than the 10m € cap and as you say, no way is Lewa going there on less.Again I have no inside knowledge but a lot of numbers going around here just don't add up or make sense.
It was gross to offer him a contract yesThose 8 will be net, though, while Uniteds offer surely was gross
And it still didn't net himIt was gross to offer him a contract yes
O-ho!And it still didn't net him
I think it was gross but it shows that a number of players want to leave and others don't want to come here and it's not a good situation.Those 8 will be net, though, while Uniteds offer surely was gross
Combined with Ronnie wanting out, it really isn't the best look at the moment. But then we had a decade of next to no success, so I suppose it was to be expected at some pointI think it was gross but it shows that a number of players want to leave and others don't want to come here and it's not a good situation.
Tool of the highest order.Just a note that Pogba wanted 20 million and United gave him 14 but now he settled for 8 million at Juve.
Mad!
Pogba was basically hated by half the fanbase in fairness, and he was well aware that he suited Italian footballer much better than the PL, where he ultimately failed.I think it was gross but it shows that a number of players want to leave and others don't want to come here and it's not a good situation.
And managers were not backed properly with incoming transfers either.Combined with Ronnie wanting out, it really isn't the best look at the moment. But then we had a decade of next to no success, so I suppose it was to be expected at some point
Kin ell christinaa, we gave managers a smörgåsbord of their favourite players, and they in turn fecked 95% of those players up.And managers were not backed properly with incoming transfers either.
Yep, money spent was never the issue, just who it was spent onKin ell christinaa, we gave managers a smörgåsbord of their favourite players, and they in turn fecked 95% up.
Who? We’ve signed players every summer since 2013. We’ve regularly broken transfer records. This simply isn’t true.And managers were not backed properly with incoming transfers either.
Woodward, managers, coaches and scouts have been utterly rubbish at their jobs. We have spent skips full of cash.And managers were not backed properly with incoming transfers either.
What really makes me skeptical about this whole deal is that there are not even news of him having agreed personal terms with us.At this point I'd be astonished if we signed him. It would be a huge, huge relief.
Come back in August. This one is going to drag on for quite a while.Is it happy FDJ day yet?
You can simply try your best. Not all targets are met in business.This is such a typical United transfer saga. Spend entire summer chasing one player, prepare multiple bids, keep discussing it until the very end of a transfer window and then don’t get your player and be stuck with your existing team. It literally happens every other year.
Maybe he wants to sort his deal with Barca first - it weakens his hand if he is seen to want out.What really makes me skeptical about this whole deal is that there are not even news of him having agreed personal terms with us.
Yup.Woodward, managers, coaches and scouts have been utterly rubbish at their jobs. We have spent skips full of cash.
I’d happily take that if it meant a successful transferCome back in August. This one is going to drag on for quite a while.
But were they the players that the managers actually wanted?Who? We’ve signed players every summer since 2013. We’ve regularly broken transfer records. This simply isn’t true.
That is a myth. It may hold some truth for Ronaldo and Pogba, but you certainly can't explain Maguire and AWB with marketing and shirt salesBut were they the players that the managers actually wanted?
Or did Woodward decide who to get according to advertising power etc?
Moyes wanted Fabregas and Bale. LVG wanted Muller and Neymar. Mourinho wanted us to spend 70m on Maguire after spending 60m on 2 CBs already. Managers not getting very tough targets does not equal not being backed. It happens at every club.But were they the players that the managers actually wanted?
Or did Woodward decide who to get according to advertising power etc?
You're right in part as some were what the managers wanted but others weren't.That is a myth. It may hold some truth for Ronaldo and Pogba, but you certainly can't explain Maguire and AWB with marketing and shirt sales
So I didnt take your advice afterall, and yep, this thread is soul destroying. Would put you into depressionStay away from this thread if your mental health means anything to you.
They ALL signed their favourite players, many they’d managed before.But were they the players that the managers actually wanted?