Now, we just witness a new level of how low Barca can be. They are disgusting.
Frenkie de Jong | The last muppeting lap
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik @Rood and Imran @Annihilate Now! start with the good news by celebrating Manchester United Women's emphatic FA Cup win over Spurs at Wembley and the future of manager Marc Skinner.
Then it's the bad news and the ever worsening form of our Men with losses to Arsenal and Palace.
Finally the main debate - ETH Out now or keep him until the end of the season - if not longer. Are you Team Nik or Team Imran?
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If they don’t sell de Jong now, then apparently they will have a demotivated de Jong and also a bunch of purchased but not registered players.
Not an ideal scenario for Barca, to be frank.
Not an ideal scenario for Barca, to be frank.
I think what I said achieves that, whilst also not souring things with the club he's supposedly about to sign for.
I mean, United obviously aren't happy with it if they're briefing against FDJ to say he had told them he's interested. Completely defeats to objective and actually makes you wonder just how much United and FDJs team are talking.
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“Di Maria vibes”
Frenkie's agent is stealing this
Not sure how any of you mugs thing United would come out of this looking poorly. The hold point is that Barca won’t/can’t pay his deferred salary
Then Barcelona would brief to their friendly press that they gave him extra vacation days because he's newly engaged. Throwing shade at his fiancée...
Me projecting.
Apparently if he requests a transfer or agrees to leave the club then he loses his deferred payments. Hence, I believe his and his agents stance in Spain to all the media is “We ain’t going anywhere, so you’re going to have to pay us what we are owed”. Once they receive the money, I’m certain FDJ will be on the first plane out of there.
Do people honestly think he would stay there now after Xavi and the board have made it clear he’s not wanted and not part of their plans. It’s different if it was a case of they are happy to keep him, but they are blatantly treating him like shit and forcing him out. I don’t think he’s that stupid to have the desire to still stick around.
Jaysus, are there any other cases of a club so badly wanting to feck a player off?
I cant imagine he actually wants to stay there after all this, surely he's just maximising the position to screw every last penny out of them before he goes.
I cant imagine he actually wants to stay there after all this, surely he's just maximising the position to screw every last penny out of them before he goes.
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Something similar to what Beckham said when he signed for Madrid would work:That MUTV interview is going to be awkward as hell
It was a difficult decision to leave Barca, but an easy decision to join United, who are one of the biggest club, yada yada..."
Yeah, that’s what it looks like.
Without being too negative: Being “open to a move” leaves plenty of scope for backing out.
I can understand top players being reluctant to come to us when we have no CL this year. They might have every respect for Utd but this year is not a good time for a transfer; unless you’re forced out of where you are and you have scant options, of course.
If he is extremely petty, he could decide to stay at Barcelona and see them have to pay him and a bunch of unregistered players.
Obvious to anyone with a brain.
Barca has isolated FDJ. He is not in their first preseason friendly. Now Barca publicly shame him not to leave. They are really disgusting.
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If we didn't need a midfielder badly, I'd love to see how that plays out.
I believe and others would confirm, it’s the second. He has no legal ground to demand the extra money as it seems that his contract was renegotiated and salary was adjusted.
He isn’t technically owed anything. But from an ethical (perhaps) point of view, he did try to help the club, he agreed a salary adjustment and a reprofiled sum of monies so now it seems like they’re pulling one on him.
Horrible position for him to be in. And even worse it seems like they’re now telling him move or you shall rot in the reserves. He can sit on his contract and Bale it out, move and loose some money or Barcelona can pay some of the ‘deferred but not deferred’ money so he gets something at least. I believe our offer now has an increased up front payment to facilitate this.
say what u want but we are really invested in getting him in.
They told him to leave.90% of players leave. Except for sorting out his severance I don’t see why they are disgusting?
Has been a little bit from Tier 2 today (Fernando Polo, Gérard Romero & Ramon Salmurri) saying similar things
Scroll back a few pages, there’s a link to a marca article that explained in perfectly. Basically I think his contract was renegotiated so rather than an I.o.u, it’s a new contract extension with the deferred wage added on top of his std wage. Obviously he breaks that contract by asking to leave or transferring away from Barca and wouldn’t be entitled to his back pay. This explains his stance in public
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This was originally reported 4 hours ago. utdreport just took their time in reporting this.
Are you new to what has happened I guess? Search deferred salary, you will understand why they are disgusting.
Yes of course the ball is in his court.
But if he decides to stay put, he will do exactly what Bale did where he’ll collect his money and be completely isolated from the team and the first team. I’m not sure he’ll want to do that at the age he’s currently at. He could potentially end up wasting 2 of his best years.
Beyond the deferred wages though, are we taking on the sort of silly astronomical wages that Barca is being castigated for dishing out willy nilly, or is FDJ taking a (perhaps less dramatic) pay cut coming here anyway?
Nah he can spin the ETH and VDB link. He’s joining friends and it’s a pleasure to be here etc….That MUTV interview is going to be awkward as hell
I don’t see why he would take a pay cut? He was getting 400k there. Mostly likely he will get his salary matched by us.
As much as I want a new midfielder, I'd love to also see him stay and screw up Barcelona's finances.
We’ll match his Barca wage. About 250k a week.
See that Tier 1 (Achraf Ben Ayad) hasn't adopted that line yet. Keep telling myself surely he's not on that plane to US if we have agreement with Barcelona, however while personal terms and deferred wages aren't sorted see him being on it.
A little more detail from the Simon Jones article. And once again it's being reported here about the money owed to the player being the problem.
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Where is 400k from? Does that include the deferred part too?
He's also probably the journalist who's closest to the team out of the lot. He's often in pictures with their players and staff as they travel, so I wouldn't be surprised if he maintains a pro-Barcelona tone throughout this saga.
I know what’s happened. But that’s not what you said. You didn’t reference deferred wages in your comment. You mentioned their public treatment and trying to force him out.
Publicly saying he wants to stay is why publicly they are telling him to leave. It’s both a game and the club normally wins.
It’s euros and I think it’s gross obviously not net.
Big men can feint too...
But I feel for the lad. What a scummy club is Barcelona. I'd be pretty cheesed off too If I were owed millions in deferred payments.
We need a thread title change to reflect the shithousing from Barca and Laporta.
I wouldn't see it as over if he's on that plane on Saturday, however it's rare a player leaves one team's pre season tour and joins another.
Barcelona are a different level of scummy. It might work to our advantage but they're really showing why any player should think twice about joining them.
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