Would anyone entertain the idea of a swap with atletico, griezman for Ronaldo? If Ronaldo leaves we defo need someone who can play through the middle but also someone who can rotate within the front 3… think ten Hag will want a dynamic front 3 who can interchange with each other to make it difficult for opposition defenders.
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Surely Joao Felix if we'd want a swap? Never gonna happen though.
Ye or him. Completely forgot about him. Not sure what type of forward player we’d want but gonna be hard to find one to replace ronaldos goals.
Dunno if they’d do that though as ones 37 and the other is 22.
If only United had someone like Cavani.
It called blame the scapeGOAT, which happens alot when things are not going well at the club, and especially when the player is not going to commit himself here at the club too.People have been blaming the poor performance of others on Ronaldo.
It's one thing to blame Rashford and forward's lack of form on him, but it's hard to put Maguire's inability to pass or knack of letting players bomb past him down to Ronaldo 50 yards up the pitch.
(Although someone a few posts above did try and do just that)
But this time, the scapegoat just happened to be our player of the season and top scorer of the club, and our only player who got into PL team of the season.
I think we were the only club dumb enough to pay his astronomical wages for a player who is likely to be done at the top level any minute. Don't get me wrong, he's worth good money, but not crazy money.
Either way, his lack of tracking just won't work at most top clubs, who have embraced pressing as the future of the game.
Either way, his lack of tracking just won't work at most top clubs, who have embraced pressing as the future of the game.
Possibly.
If you ask a non-football fan about footballing greats like Scholes, van Basten or Platini, the chances are they won't have the foggiest. The only footballers that remain in the public conscience are either the ones who become infamous (Maradona, Best and Gascoigne to an extent) as well as the ones who have press appeal and profile (Beckham being the biggest)
...but I do think the very best players, the GOAT contenders, also have a spot in people's memories. Lots of people who don't care about football still know who Pele is. In the same vein, outside of football, Messi and Ronaldo will likely be remembered for some time.
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No he won't. Isn't he the most followed sports person in the world on social media? He's a household name.
Its going to be easy isn't it, especially when he is currently holding most of the biggest all time records out there, and the new generations of elite footballers (ie Mbappe, Haaland) all idolised/fanboy him too.
And imagine his 700m followers totally disappear with him in 5 years time, that would be a scene.
I wouldn't take Griezmann now as he seems to be a shell of the player he was
Plus he seems like an idiot
Actually, I'll be interested to see how fondly Ronaldo is remembered as a footballer in his retirement.
Yeap. Legend my arse.
No, he likely is right. Outside of the game Ronaldo is irrelevant, as is Messi. While we, Football followers, obsess about them, people that don't care about Football kind of know that they exist but will forget about them very quickly when neither are in Football news. In 5 to 10 years only Football followers will care or think about Ronaldo, unless his slips sell particularly well.
Football is one of the sports where that dynamic exist, the other one being Boxing. The turnover of players is kind of violent.
No chance. Another superstar player on massive wages who'd only perform when he feels like it. Plus, he's a shell of his former self, and I really don't like his personality. Would be a disaster.
Hopefully we can find a team to take him, if he's here by the start of the season I think some bollock excuse will be made to justify his absence but if the window closes and he's still here it's going to be a massive problem.
He's going to disrupt the whole squad. At this point I'll just let him walk for free to anyone who's willing to take him.
He's going to disrupt the whole squad. At this point I'll just let him walk for free to anyone who's willing to take him.
But we still got Maguire for 80m and AWB for close to 50m some years back.
The relevance is?
Expensive flops.
I work with an office full of women. Ronaldo and Beckham are the only ones they'd all know.
I think Ronaldo will stay beyond. He's the ego for it as well. He isn't one to just slip of queitly
So there’s no relevance then? We should have signed Griezmann to be crap because Aaron Wan Bissaka hasn’t kicked on?
Is that what you’re trying to say? Because it sounds downright moronic
Ronaldo R9 or Cristiano Ronaldo? But anyway the fact that you only have these two as guarantees kind of show why @phelans shorts has a point, you have two generation of players between these two and hundreds of players that Football fans will definitely remember while non-Football fans will forget almost all of them including the better ones. The odds are against all of them.
He wasn’t factually good enough to be in that team though. I’m sorry but he’s wasn’t some unbelievable footballer last season.
He was good but the team played for him so obviously he scored goals.
Ibra was better than him here both at scoring goals and holdup play didn’t even get a sniff of team of the year did he?
Relax. Just a casual comment on a post regarding getting away from an expensive flop, no need to overthink that much.
He was our player of the season, and got into PL best 11. Thats a fact, and everything else are just opinions. You are free to blame everything on him though, including Maguire tripping over and conceding us goals, or Rashford running into opponents legs for 1000 times. After all this is basically a Ronaldo bashing thread, it doesn't really have to be rational at all.
The team of the season which did not have Son in it? A joke isn't it???
I dont know, I would've been quite happy with the Griezmann signing a few seasons back. His combination with Pogba during the WC was great.
So you just wanted to attack players for literally no reason when they had zero relevance to the topic at hand? Sounds about right.
Sure, PL itself is a joke for recognising Ronaldo last season as PL best 11. The club is a joke for recognising him as our player of the season too. You are the only one who isn't a joke.
Yeah but how many POTM awards did Son get?
What topic? Its just a response to a comment made on Griezman regarding us getting away from expensive flops. Take it easy man.
Is this whole "Athletico must sell players to afford Ronaldo" story really legit or is it the club clearing out other strikers to meet his demands on playing time?
I can't believe any club would be so short sighted as to sell off younger players to accommodate him, but then again we got rid of James, but at least we profited from the deal.
I can't believe any club would be so short sighted as to sell off younger players to accommodate him, but then again we got rid of James, but at least we profited from the deal.
It is part of the Spanish salary cap in La Liga that forms part of their compliance with FFP rules. Same situation that is behind Barca trying to push Frenkie out of the door, their wage bill is too high to keep him and add the wages for all their new signings. Atletico are supposedly over their expected limit as it is and then would have to shoehorn in Ronaldo and even with a discount he will still command a hefty wage, Griezman is on a huge salary and so would make sense to offload as that move probably frees up the required room whereas if they start looking at other players they might need to shift 3 or 4 just to get Ronaldo in.
Griezmann is the most complicated to move, he is currently on loan from Barcelona with allegedly an obligation to buy in 2023.
So what's happened in the past few pages is that someone stated that Ronaldo was a contributing factor to some attacking players poor season.
A poster said
"Ronaldo is the first and only player I’ll ever see being held accountable for other grown players’ performances. I’ve never seen it before and will probably never see it again"
Which is obvious bollox and was countered with examples of Maguire and DeGea who frequently get blamed for the defensive issues.
This turns into people claiming that Ronaldo is being made a scapegoat for Maguires defensive frailties (which didn't happen) to deflect away from legitimate criticisms of Ronaldo's effect on the attacking dynamic
It's like a (much less serious and frankly hilarious) QANON cult.
A poster said
"Ronaldo is the first and only player I’ll ever see being held accountable for other grown players’ performances. I’ve never seen it before and will probably never see it again"
Which is obvious bollox and was countered with examples of Maguire and DeGea who frequently get blamed for the defensive issues.
This turns into people claiming that Ronaldo is being made a scapegoat for Maguires defensive frailties (which didn't happen) to deflect away from legitimate criticisms of Ronaldo's effect on the attacking dynamic
It's like a (much less serious and frankly hilarious) QANON cult.
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Sounds tailor made for us.
Honestly a deal that involved us taking on Griezman to allow Ronaldo to join Atletico would make a lot of sense but sounds wildly complicated to actually pull off with Barca also involved. I am sure Ronaldo would take the move to play CL football and frankly Griezman is a better fit in the ETH system but we have no idea if Griezman would even entertain coming here.
Err... I don't know how long have you been here, but this is actually the biggest argument made against Ronaldo last season, on his lack of pressing.So what's happened in the past few pages is that someone stated that Ronaldo was a contributing factor to some attacking players poor season.
A poster said
"Ronaldo is the first and only player I’ll ever see being held accountable for other grown players’ performances. I’ve never seen it before and will probably never see it again"
Which is obvious bollox and was countered with examples of Maguire and DeGea who frequently get blamed for the defensive issues.
This turns into people claiming that Ronaldo is being made a scapegoat for defensive frailties (which didn't happen) to deflect away from legitimate criticisms of Ronaldo's effect on the attacking dynamic
It's like a (much less serious and frankly hilarious) QANON cult.
It is argued that his lack of pressing would get us being more exposed in midfield, which as the result would get us more exposed in defence, and eventually would set up our defenders into the realm of making unforced errors, which lead us to concede more goals. While his mere presence on the pitch, would also create a level of stress in the mind of our other attackers, which would force Rashford running unnecessarily into opponents legs every 10-15 mins or so.
Whether this is true or not no one really knows, as this is like a butterfly effect or something, where one small change could lead to complete different outcome, and where this would appears unrelated at first glance, even when we conceded a goal after Maguire tripping over. It has been argued that everything wrong with us has to be due to Ronaldo lack of pressing, which triggers everything, even though its very hard to trace it all back.
So in this sense he is indeed probably the only the forward/pure attacker in history who got blame for the team overall defence and everything. Its all part of butterfly effect theory after all, where his lack of pressing is being argued as the initial condition which triggers it all.
Barcelona will find a way to demand to get paid by both teams for a Griezmann transfer
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