Frenkie de Jong | The last muppeting lap

[Castia]

Can you offer any proof of that, some that isn't from Sport or some random Spanish guy

Romano has said loads of times the player is yet to be convinced and the Athletic have been reporting the same this week. In fact there must be 10 to 1 in favour of journalists/news outlets reporting that FdJ has no interest in United.

I'll throw the question back who is actually reporting that he wants to join??

 

[mu4c_20le]

I don’t see why taking a pay cut to stay there is even an option. He knows they want him out, there’s no way he’s going to take a pay cut to stay there when he can get paid his full wages without doing a thing.

To be fair, they mostly want him out because of his high wages. I'm sure they can find a use for him if he stays, they know he's quality and he has a nice humble personality. You can never have too much quality depth. And Xavi only gave him the two options.

 

[phelans shorts]

Romano has said loads of times the player is yet to be convinced and the Athletic have been reporting the same this week. In fact there must be 10 to 1 in favour of journalists/news outlets reporting that FdJ has no interest in United.

I'll throw the question back who is actually reporting that he wants to join??

I’d just like to point out that “yet to be convinced” and “no interest” are absolutely miles apart. Like literally opposites.

 

[Castia]

I’d just like to point out that “yet to be convinced” and “no interest” are absolutely miles apart. Like literally opposites.

Well if after 3 months of this transfer dragging on he's still not convinced...

 

[STYLOISRED]

Romano has said loads of times the player is yet to be convinced and the Athletic have been reporting the same this week. In fact there must be 10 to 1 in favour of journalists/news outlets reporting that FdJ has no interest in United.

I'll throw the question back who is actually reporting that he wants to join??

No one because admitting that he is even considering leaving weakens his position considerably.

 

[Plant0x84]

BLM? I can't read that as anything but Black Lives Matter these days, it's been drummed into me. What does BLM stand for in Barcelona terms?

Barcas levers manipulate? Bankrupt loan masters? Blame Laporta mostly?

 

[Gandalf]

Well if after 3 months of this transfer dragging on he's still not convinced...

I agree, he is still not convinced............................. to walk away from the 17M in deferred wages. If he gets his cash I don't think moving to United would be an issue for him at all.

 

[Drifter]

Walk away. Fred/ Mctominay will hold us over till January

 

[Rob Bowman]

BLM? I can't read that as anything but Black Lives Matter these days, it's been drummed into me. What does BLM stand for in Barcelona terms?

Barça Licensing & Merchandising is the official name.

 

[MF1138]

To be fair, they mostly want him out because of his high wages. I'm sure they can find a use for him if he stays, they know he's quality and he has a nice humble personality. You can never have too much quality depth.

I'm not even convinced about that... He's a big buy from the previous regime. I think they'd be happy to get rid of him for that alone.

 

[AlexUTD]

Walk away. Fred/ Mctominay will hold us over till January

Yes it worked so well last season.

 

[mu4c_20le]

No one because admitting that he is even considering leaving weakens his position considerably.

According to one of the journos, he literally cannot express any intent of leaving or he could potentially give up those deferred wages. Whatever he signed up for, it's put tape over his mouth, it's 10x worse than 2008 Ronaldo.

 

[TsuWave]

You’re right. We’re shite, all hope is lost. We should just forfeit the season. Why would we even bother

That’s not what the exchange I was having was about. I was saying that from the outside looking in, it’s understandable to see why a player would go “Chelsea > United” currently.

You said Chelsea are more likely to win the league when, spoiler alert, they aren’t. The likelihood of either happening are very similar, as I said. These are the harsh realities whether you can read them or not.

Yeah, they are more likely when compared to United. Not that they are winning the league. Saying Arsenal are more credible contenders than Forest doesn’t mean you’re saying Arsenal will win the league. That distinction, however, can help a player rationalize a move to one team over the other.

You don’t finish 16 points off of them and try to manoeuvre around a simple statement such as “Chelsea are more credible contenders than United” with “similar likelihood”. Have you no shame? Or is your reading comprehension really that poor? I’m going with shamelessness, for your own benefit. Otherwise your reality is even harsher than I first assumed.

 

[Lennon7]

Walk away. Fred/ Mctominay will hold us over till January

Who becomes magically available in Jan?

 

[Plant0x84]

Omg Frenkie must be getting some serious death stares in his direction

 

[FerociousCorgis]

im amazed at how many people think we can wait until next window to address our ginormous, gaping, incredible pathetic hole(s) at CM to fill.

 

[phelans shorts]

That’s not what the exchange I was having was about. I was saying that from the outside looking in, it’s understandable to see why a player would go “Chelsea > United” currently.



Yeah, they are more likely when compared to United. Not that they are winning the league. Saying Arsenal are more credible contenders than Forest doesn’t mean you’re saying Arsenal will win the league. That distinction, however, can help a player rationalize a move to one team over the other.

You don’t finish 16 points off of them and try to manoeuvre around a simple statement such as “Chelsea are more credible contenders than United” with “similar likelihood”. Have you no shame? Or is your reading comprehension really that poor? I’m going with shamelessness, for your own benefit. Otherwise your reality is even harsher than I first assumed.

So you’re ignoring the chaos at Chelsea? All the players who walked after last season and the ones that remained and are being disruptive because they don’t want to be there by the managers own words?

You’re talking bullshit and you’re well aware of it, but any reason to get in a dig at the side you “support” hey

 

[izak]

Anyone seeing this for what it is, the club using this as an opportunity not to strengthen the Midfield this summer, we've lost Pogba, Matic and Mata even if they were still here we still needed two more midfielders anyways, yes we've signed Christen on a free, which I feel he's a strong enough replacement for Mata.

We are about to go into yet another season with Mcfred, I don't care who the coach is they won't win us any trophies, I still don't understand why we have to leave it all on this basket when we can tell Barca, De Jong to feck off with their bag of drama and simply go out there and sign Fabian Ruiz for half the price quoted, less drama and more so he's also capable.

 

[Plant0x84]

So you’re ignoring the chaos at Chelsea? All the players who walked after last season and the ones that remained and are being disruptive because they don’t want to be there by the managers own words?

You’re talking bullshit and you’re well aware of it, but any reason to get in a dig at the side you “support” hey

@TsuWave I’d pretty much second this. Don’t know why you’re talking us down based on a freak season, before we’ve even kicked a ball in anger under a new manager and coaching set up.

 

[Cypriot]

One of my favourite scenes

 

[pocco]

No one because admitting that he is even considering leaving weakens his position considerably.

So why are United briefing the media to say that he has given assurances? Surely this doesn't help FDJ's case?

 

[Redcy]

To be fair, they mostly want him out because of his high wages. I'm sure they can find a use for him if he stays, they know he's quality and he has a nice humble personality. You can never have too much quality depth. And Xavi only gave him the two options.

Xavi can give him whatever fecking options he wants, FdJ can quite feasibly stay there on his full wage. All the Barca journos and fans are creaming themselves that they don't owe him any money as per the contract and that he should take the pay cut, completely ignoring the fact that contracts are a two way street . Yet as everyone has said here he has the third option, which is why Barca are constantly whining about him to random pressers, PR, etc. They can do nothing if he decides to stay and not take the pay cut, at which point they either cannot register people, or they have to sell more of their valuable rights off for lower and lower pots of money

 

[Plant0x84]

One of my favourite scenes

‘I just thought of flat boobies and it made me angry…’

 

[Redcy]

Well if after 3 months of this transfer dragging on he's still not convinced...

Literally nothing has been said by him or his agent, all the other shit can be considered just press bs, on both sides. FdJ and his agent have said jack shit all this time.

 

[Silverman]

Now Kounde is on the way.
Whether he comes to us or not, surely he is leaving.

 

[Cassidy]

Literally nothing has been said by him or his agent, all the other shit can be considered just press bs, on both sides. FdJ and his agent have said jack shit all this time.

Actually he said very early on, during a press conference with the national team, that he wanted to stay at his dream club Barca

 

[Superunknown]

Yes it worked so well last season.

Actually, we're in a worse position than last year as we also don't have the option of Matic. Oh, also Pogba.

 

[Cassidy]

Now Kounde is on the way.
Whether he comes to us or not, surely he is leaving.

Barca will have to pay up soon

 

[House Mkhitaryan]

Even if Barca can’t register the players until de Jong leaves. That still doesn’t change the fact he doesn’t want to join us. He may leave for Chelsea or someone els.

This is absolute nonsense.

 

[Redcy]

Anyone seeing this for what it is, the club using this as an opportunity not to strengthen the Midfield this summer, we've lost Pogba, Matic and Mata even if they were still here we still needed two more midfielders anyways, yes we've signed Christen on a free, which I feel he's a strong enough replacement for Mata.

We are about to go into yet another season with Mcfred, I don't care who the coach is they won't win us any trophies, I still don't understand why we have to leave it all on this basket when we can tell Barca, De Jong to feck off with their bag of drama and simply go out there and sign Fabian Ruiz for half the price quoted, less drama and more so he's also capable.

and who are you playing alongside Ruiz? None of the options we have now can play alongside him, whilst they could have played alongside FdJ, Ruiz has shortcomings meaning more purchases of a similar calibre. Add in to the fact that Ruiz is not on the market, and you are buying from Napoli, and yeah you are going to find them just as much a bunch of twunts as Barca.

 

[red thru&thru]

Anyone seeing this for what it is, the club using this as an opportunity not to strengthen the Midfield this summer, we've lost Pogba, Matic and Mata even if they were still here we still needed two more midfielders anyways, yes we've signed Christen on a free, which I feel he's a strong enough replacement for Mata.

We are about to go into yet another season with Mcfred, I don't care who the coach is they won't win us any trophies, I still don't understand why we have to leave it all on this basket when we can tell Barca, De Jong to feck off with their bag of drama and simply go out there and sign Fabian Ruiz for half the price quoted, less drama and more so he's also capable.

I'm seeing this as a manager wanting a player that will aid his teams play. If he just wants anybody in there, use the youth team.

 

[pocco]

According to one of the journos, he literally cannot express any intent of leaving or he could potentially give up those deferred wages. Whatever he signed up for, it's put tape over his mouth, it's 10x worse than 2008 Ronaldo.

I'm calling bollocks on that. Think about it, we're talking about wages he has earnt, in the very loosest of terms (contractually he is owed nothing by the looks of it). But say they're right, is FDJ expecting Barca to hand him 17m euros before he even utters the words that he will leave or agrees anything with us? If he wants a lump sum then he has to agree a move, otherwise he will get his money contractually over the next 3 or 4 years. These journalists are talking out of their backside as it's impossible to get a lump sum of money owed in the next 3 or 4 years without agreeing to a move. By which point, if these journalists were correct, he would then forfeit the money.

 

[DJ_21]

That is not a fact, simply a narrative pushed by sections of the Spanish media. Frenkie has never at any point said anything about United one way or another.

Or he has never said he wants to either…

 

[Loony BoB]

Barcelona Levers Matter

Barcas levers manipulate? Bankrupt loan masters? Blame Laporta mostly?

Amazing, love every one of them.

For anyone who is as curious as I am, it's Barça Licensing & Merchandising. Imagine selling off your income to create money. Jesus, Lewa isn't young, how can this be justified as a long term investment?

 

[pocco]

Actually he said very early on, during a press conference with the national team, that he wanted to stay at his dream club Barca

Doesn't count. He has to say it every week otherwise we don't know if he's changed his mind

 

[Gavinb33]

Romano has said loads of times the player is yet to be convinced and the Athletic have been reporting the same this week. In fact there must be 10 to 1 in favour of journalists/news outlets reporting that FdJ has no interest in United.

I'll throw the question back who is actually reporting that he wants to join??

If you are talking about the Corrigan piece from yesterday it says "likely wants a CL club" that doesnt say anything that could be classed as anything other than speculation amongst all the other speculation

 

[DJ_21]

Can you offer any proof of that, some that isn't from Sport or some random Spanish guy

The fact we still haven’t signed him yet… I get he’s waiting for his pay of but if he was so desperate to join us he’d of come by now. He might get his pay of and still not want to come…

 

[UnofficialDevil]

According to one of the journos, he literally cannot express any intent of leaving or he could potentially give up those deferred wages. Whatever he signed up for, it's put tape over his mouth, it's 10x worse than 2008 Ronaldo.

Come on... its getting out of hand now. A bit silly.

 

[AlexUTD]

Actually, we're in a worse position than last year as we also don't have the option of Matic. Oh, also Pogba.

Also good point.

 

[DJ_21]

He's definitely playing CB again.


This is absolute nonsense.

On what basis?