Benjamin Sesko | Despite Raees best efforts he’s joining Liepzig. Damn you Raees

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The reason we have looked better up top pre season is the interaction and movement of Sancho, Martial and Rashford. None of the others can interchange with this 3 and do what they do. Throw Elanga in that equation too. Means needing to fit square pegs in round holes again….means we can’t play our system if we need to use Bruno as a false 9 or Ronny.

We need at least one striker and a deputy for Sancho on the right.
We need one or two players who will be better at converting chances into goals. We’re not too bad for numbers and we have flexible players but they don’t score enough goals.
 

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Yesterday Bruno played at LW when Eriksen came on I think? Eriksen has played a lot more at RW than Bruno has at LW.

So I do think we have Bruno, Eriksen, Donny, Sancho, Rashford, Martial and Ronaldo, seven players, competing for four positions.
You forget Elanga.
 

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City, Liverpool, and Spurs, have top goal scorers and unless we bring in a top goalscoring CF we will fall further behind these 3, and have a huge fight for top 4 again.
 

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City, Liverpool, and Spurs, have top goal scorers and unless we bring in a top goalscoring CF we will fall further behind these 3, and have a huge fight for top 4 again.
I agree. Ronaldo can obviously do a great job, but it’s not clear what will happen there. Martial have been very good and positive this preseason, but he can fall of the happy wagon imo. That leaves us very short and I think we need to add a forward. Sesko could be a very smart signing. Will not demand to play every match either.
 

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I agree. Ronaldo can obviously do a great job, but it’s not clear what will happen there. Martial have been very good and positive this preseason, but he can fall of the happy wagon imo. That leaves us very short and I think we need to add a forward. Sesko could be a very smart signing. Will not demand to play every match either.
Agree. a Top forward has to be on the list now.
 

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That's a bit of a leap. What other strikers do you see us linked with?
Well we haven't decided to sell Ronaldo yet have we? Which is why we have been looking at young strikers who could develop (which was stated as what we were looking for at the start of the window)

If Ronaldo leaves that will have to change
 

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Is Sesko better than, say, Broja? Not saying that United should go for Broja, but there’s not a lot to say Sesko is worth 50 million. Paying more for Osimhen would probably be a better bet. Napoli look like they’re selling what they can (not sure why?)
Napoli bought Osimhen for €80m and would presumably want a bit more on top. I can't see that we'll have the money for that if we're still looking at De Jong and/or Antony.
 

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City, Liverpool, and Spurs, have top goal scorers and unless we bring in a top goalscoring CF we will fall further behind these 3, and have a huge fight for top 4 again.
Yeah can't neglect this position when Ronaldo leaves that is for certain
 

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Sick of short sighted signings like Ibra, Cavani, Ighalo, and Ronaldo. It'd be nice to have an exciting young forward in the team who we can develop into the next big thing.
 

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I wonder who else could we buy who is ready to score goals immediately.
No one of his level, Hence we are not willing to sell Ronaldo.

However there is Jonathan David who has been mentioned.
 

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Sick of short sighted signings like Ibra, Cavani, Ighalo, and Ronaldo. It'd be nice to have an exciting young forward in the team who we can develop into the next big thing.
We’ve had Greenwood, Martial and Rashford for the last what? 6 years?!
 

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Well we haven't decided to sell Ronaldo yet have we? Which is why we have been looking at young strikers who could develop (which was stated as what we were looking for at the start of the window)

If Ronaldo leaves that will have to change
Everything suggests these provisions are being put in place on the proviso Ronaldo leaves. Mendes has been whoring Ronaldo out for most of the summer and reports in Spain suggest Atleti will be in for him if they can shift a couple of players.

It would be Martial and Sesko as the striker options if he signs. I'm confident of that.
 

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Sick of short sighted signings like Ibra, Cavani, Ighalo, and Ronaldo. It'd be nice to have an exciting young forward in the team who we can develop into the next big thing.
I understand the signings like the ones you mention because you know what you get(hopefully). That said, I love an exciting young forward myself. Sesko fit the bill imo.
MG was that for me, but it seems that train crashed and burned.
 

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I think we have to move for talent this window. I can’t see anyone proven that is available now. I might be wrong though.
I agree. I think best we could get is unproven talent like Sesko, but then coming up with a fair fee for him would be tricky, as no way he is worth what he is reportedly priced at (50m).

And if Ronaldo does leave, I think we should try to get Icardi for loan or something too, as he is at least proven, but past 2 season he has been in poor form at PSG.
 

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Everything suggests these provisions are being put in place on the proviso Ronaldo leaves. Mendes has been whoring Ronaldo out for most of the summer and reports in Spain suggest Atleti will be in for him if they can shift a couple of players.

It would be Martial and Sesko as the striker options if he signs. I'm confident of that.
I’d wager Sesko is an alternative to the overpriced Antony and not Ronaldos replacement. But if Ronaldo leaves we may need to rethink. We’re supposedly after 2 forwards. And Sesko links started around the time the Antony deal seemed to die.
 

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We aren't signing a 6'4 centre forward to stick him on the wing :lol: Come on
I never said we would stick him on the wing. Neither did I say Antony would have stayed out wide.
We’re looking for versatile forwards, he might play wide in a few games to get minutes or cover
 

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Napoli bought Osimhen for €80m and would presumably want a bit more on top. I can't see that we'll have the money for that if we're still looking at De Jong and/or Antony.
Yes, I know how much they paid, but I’d say a bit over 80 million for Osimhen is better value than 55 for Sesko. I think if you sign a right winger and FDJ then the CF might be at the lower end of the market (like Kaladzic or maybe Jovic). I get the sense FDJ / Antony won’t happen.
 

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What do you base that on? Half a game in a pre season friendly game and a few youtube highlights? If anyone think's he's going to replace Ronaldo, they're a tad :houllier:
If Ronaldo stays he'll be fine as long as he's playing. Looks like he's now our only fit striker so it won't be an issue for a while.
The post you quoted literally said we should sign him regardless of whether Ronaldo stays or not, not that he would replace Ronaldo.
 

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Why should it matter if Ronaldo stays or goes.

Buy him anyway and loan him out for the year if we have to. Ronaldo is gone next year no matter what
 

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Sick of short sighted signings like Ibra, Cavani, Ighalo, and Ronaldo. It'd be nice to have an exciting young forward in the team who we can develop into the next big thing.
Agreed. I want us to find the next big thing before he is the next big thing. I want us to sign a player for a tiny fee and he turns into a world class player.
 

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Can we afford to loan him out
Well if he's gonna be 3rd choice i'm not sure he'd be down for that but yes why not otherwise.

We need to sign players, not let them go elsewhere then worry about it later.
 

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Agreed. I want us to find the next big thing before he is the next big thing. I want us to sign a player for a tiny fee and he turns into a world class player.
Can feel a meme of Brock Lesnar coming as that was his nickname twenty years ago
 

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I think the reason Ronaldo matters is prioritisation.

If he leaves you absolutely need a striker. End of story. It also frees up his extortionate wages and whatever fee we can wrangle.

If he doesn't leave then you could argue that we can get away without a striker for one more season. Which means positions like right wing, and even right back enter into the equation.

It's all about finances. We don't have enough money to do everything in one window so they're scratching around trying to get the best they can, knowing full well FDJ is priority number one and theoretically hitting the budget.
 

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I think the reason Ronaldo matters is prioritisation.

If he leaves you absolutely need a striker. End of story. It also frees up his extortionate wages and whatever fee we can wrangle.

If he doesn't leave then you could argue that we can get away without a striker for one more season. Which means positions like right wing, and even right back enter into the equation.

It's all about finances. We don't have enough money to do everything in one window so they're scratching around trying to get the best they can, knowing full well FDJ is priority number one and theoretically hitting the budget.
Who should be that striker when he leaves
 

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Sick of short sighted signings like Ibra, Cavani, Ighalo, and Ronaldo. It'd be nice to have an exciting young forward in the team who we can develop into the next big thing.
In fairness, the club had one of the most exciting forwards in world football. Short term signings while he developed were fine. No one could envision how that would end up.
 

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No he doesn’t.
It says we haven’t bid yet because we want to know what will happen. If Ronaldo leaves we need a starter not Sesko
I mean unless we are operating without a budget it wouldn't make much sense to sign a striker with Ronaldo and Martial still in the club and other positions needing more urgent reinforcement.

The only way signing him while Ronaldo and Martial are still here makes sense is if the club really likes him and he's about to be snapped up by another club similar to the Malacia deal. I don't think that's the case though. So maybe he's the alternative to Antony, meaning we wouldn't sign a right winger if we get him.
 
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