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Frenkie de Jong | The last muppeting lap
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik @Rood and Imran @Annihilate Now! start with the good news by celebrating Manchester United Women's emphatic FA Cup win over Spurs at Wembley and the future of manager Marc Skinner.
Then it's the bad news and the ever worsening form of our Men with losses to Arsenal and Palace.
Finally the main debate - ETH Out now or keep him until the end of the season - if not longer. Are you Team Nik or Team Imran?
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There's potential there to make their own unique brand of 'triple threat football'.Looks like Barca are still banking their future on the ESL becoming a reality.
Juve Real and Barca are still all in for the ESL. Shame no other club is
A triangular football pitch with three goals. Special guest referee each week. Simeone, Gattuso, Mascherano at pitchside to give a few thumps to any of the players if they leave the pitch to collect the ball or for whatever reason. Title belt is suspended above the pitch and gradually lowers and swings over to the winning team's third throughout the game.
Each lever is like a 100m! Who is buying so easily with no negotiations.
Pretty sure the banks that bought the stake will have jnsurance against such a move.Looks like Barca are still banking their future on the ESL becoming a reality.
Juve Real and Barca are still all in for the ESL. Shame no other club is
Damn, so this can drag on till deadline day. I thought they'd be forced to conclude negotiations by opening day because they can't register Lewa, Raphinha etc. w/o selling of De Jong.
Is Barca Studios the equivalent of our MUTV?
I doubt the Spanish government would given the Catalan divide.
Ok, so you wait until deadline day not blinking on the back of this hypothetical?
"Don't worry ETH, they'll blink and you'll get your fulcrum. If they don't, there's always McFred and Savage Zidane".
Thats Murtough? he looks different everytime I see him in different photos.
outside of Haaland I disagree. Mbappe will join Madrid eventually. Chelsea got gazumped on a lot of their targets to Barca. And this is a Barca team going through so much internally. Outside of getting players from the Portuguese league and Haaland the pull of PL is still second to Madrid/Barcelona. Mbappe took the biggest contract in history and even then he only signed for 2 years. Man city are the only team with gobs of money that can hand out silly contracts if they wanted to like psg. Liverpool are smart but won’t be going for superstars they’d rather build them and the other teams don’t have the pull the Spanish teams have right now as Chelsea are losing out on several players by a mere phone call at the last second. United don’t have CL and teams like Tottenham and arsenal definitely don’t have the pull of the Spanish teams.
Yeah I'm sure someone has done a DCF analysis on these, but I'm amazed that 25% of Barca Studios is worth 100M. I don't even know how they make their money. I assume Barca studios owns the players' image rights and such? So revenue from commercials etc. goes there?
No they wouldn't. The Catalan nationalist government uses Barca as a vehicle for its own propaganda so no way the Spanish government will help them (they shouldn't help anyone btw).
It would be like the UK Government bailing out as a team which promoted the SNP.
Don’t think Xavi has shown anything as a manager worth backing this much over either
A stubborn idiot for not letting go of 17m?! Really?
Except he isn’t legally owed anything from what I understand and Barca clearly don’t want to pay. The smart move at this point is to cut your losses and actually continue your career elsewhere, rather than stay put at a club that obviously don’t want you.
The Murtough grin... could be infuriating if we end up not getting FdJ. Could be more interpreted as "you're having a laugh". We shall see...
OCD is terrible when I see this. All I can think is, "couldn't he match the contrast a little better between the faces and the background? smh!"
This is the right mindset. We have a brilliant youth academy but we hardly make use of it. ETH wants to and if we truly want to build a different culture they need to stop spending huge amounts of money on players we're not in love with. This window could be considered a disappointment to some but at least we got some nice deals/players the manager really wants and didn't feck up the budget on guys that will fill the bench for 4 years after a flopped first season (Mata, Fellaini, Donny, the list goes on).
It's no longer our problem. We've had a bid accepted and now it's between Barca and De Jong. Sure, we could go and pay £17m and bail them out, but why would we? Why shouldn't Barca use £17m of our bid to pay him off?
If he doesn't come, he doesn't come. But the fee agreed is about right. Paying almost 100m for a player they don't want would be silly.
Barca earning more money, still won't pay Frenkie
Say what you want, but having a midfield duo called Savage Zidane is pretty fecking awesome.
Barca TV is part of Barca Studios. The deal is primarily based on developing a digital strategy (NFTs and all that bollocks).
But if the Spanish government owned them, couldn't they force the narrative to change?
Barcelona is acting like a drug addict. Selling of their furniture and belongings for a quick fix.
BarcaLOANa
I guess so but don't see that happening tbh!
Let's hope that never happens, either in the UK or Spain.
Agree. They got themselves into this mess and if the roles were reversed (and we had some players they wanted!) they'd have no problems low-balling us and forcing the player out.
So it's down to a grin. Oh dear
Savage Zidane sounds cool. Like he’s the bare knuckle champion in the back streets of Oran, Algeria
They need transfer muppets anonymous.
Some would say.... it's almost embarrasing.
Disagree with the analogy. United’s biggest issue now is only targeting one player for positions. We either pay over the odds to appease the manager or we play this awful waiting game. Some fans say that’s a great idea but I don’t get this logic. We waited a season to get Sancho and saved ourselves some money but were left with Dan James as the only RW for a season. We then panic bought two young RW for about £35m anyway (it seems likely both won’t have a career at United). And with players coming in so late in the window they have missed pre-season training and any new tactics the manager is trying to implement. Just like Maguire and Cavani when we signed them.
The De Jong situation is exactly the same. Wasted the whole pre-season period chasing him and I still believe it’s not happening. It seems more likely we will wait rather than panic buy another option (because we don’t have a viable one). But this squad ‘transition’ process continues to be extended year after year. With the players that left in the summer we simply need 5/6 new faces in by now, and there were plenty of options available on free transfers which we missed out on.
The club sits on their hands and doesn’t take decisive action. Man City have walked away from the Cucurella deal because it’s too much money, the player even handed in a transfer request but the club walked away. I’m sure they will find a suitable option, because their scouts do a decent job. This idea that De Jong is the only player to resolve our midfield is wrong. He hasn’t even done well at Barcelona and if reports are true about salaries above £400k a week, we are repeating the same mistakes as before.
Both Fred and McTominay need replacing as starters. Half the league have a better CM pairing. There were plenty of players available if the club moved quicker. Chasing a lost cause for months has meant we have lost out.
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I can see direct streaming to the fans as the next major revenue stream in the mid-term -- same as for MUTV. This will be the thing that elevates United's value exponentially, bigger than any super league BS.
But NFTs...
He’s not going to Chelsea, it’s such wumming bringing it up at this point.
It's because Chelsea have two players they want, Alonso and Azpi. and everyone knows Boehly needs to make a statement signing after their own shitshow of a window
The Glazers would love to do that, but the EPL doesn't allow clubs to negotiate their own TV deals.I can see direct streaming to the fans as the next major revenue stream in the mid-term -- same as for MUTV. This will be the thing that elevates United's value exponentially, bigger than any super league BS.
But NFTs...
He may not go to Chelsea but they could do with him, they were playing Loftus Cheek in there last season.
They are weak in CM (injury prone / ageing starters with unproven/ proven not to be good enough backup) at the moment (just not as weak as United)vs the likes of City/ Liverpool.
They are weak in CM (injury prone / ageing starters with unproven/ proven not to be good enough backup) at the moment (just not as weak as United)vs the likes of City/ Liverpool.
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