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Frosty

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So taxpayer funding?
It works in England and Wales. I appreciate other European countries have different systems, but as long as it is accessible and there is no financial barrier that is the most important thing. Time is very much of the essence here so even delays of a week or two can be very serious.
 

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It really depends on what metric(s) you use to measure quality of life. I don't think the US is top (or even close to top) on any of them, though.

As a country, it also appears to be going backwards.
Economically, opportunities, military, medical advancements, inventions, entertainment, College/Higher Education, Free speech, Porn, Diversity, Cultural impact,

I would say they are fairly high in these. Also how is it going backwards and to where?
 

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I would say they are fairly high in these. Also how is it going backwards and to where?
:lol: Touché
 

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I agree with what the podcaster says there though that it’s “barbaric, but consistent”. I had the convo with a conservative colleague recently.
Agree. I vehemently disagree with the position, but I respect it more than other “pro-lifers” who carve out cases when they will agree abortion is ok. Either life begins at conception or you’re full of shit.
 

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Agree. I vehemently disagree with the position, but I respect it more than other “pro-lifers” who carve out cases when they will agree abortion is ok. Either life begins at conception or you’re full of shit.
Poll? ;)
 

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Respects to the guy as he actually waded into the cesspool that is Twitter comments to frame this clip. His point was that the amendment would allow any man to demand a pre-birth paternity test and he is against it. The point on paternity was poorly made but he claims his point was that the father could pressure the mother to get an abortion to avoid child support.

I agree with him that no man should be able to force a woman to get a paternity test.
 

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Respects to the guy as he actually waded into the cesspool that is Twitter comments to frame this clip. His point was that the amendment would allow any man to demand a pre-birth paternity test and he is against it. The point on paternity was poorly made but he claims his point was that the father could pressure the mother to get an abortion to avoid child support.

I agree with him that no man should be able to force a woman to get a paternity test.
I was completely confused apparently, thought it was regarding the gun amendment! :lol:

Could see it both ways re: paternity tests.
 

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I was completely confused apparently, thought it was regarding the gun amendment! :lol:

Could see it both ways re: paternity tests.
As long as child support doesn’t begin till the child is born it doesn’t matter who the dad is. Plus, an amniocenteses is dangerous for both the mom and baby, so no one but the mother and her doctors should have a single say in one being done.
 

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As long as child support doesn’t begin till the child is born it doesn’t matter who the dad is. Plus, an amniocenteses is dangerous for both the mom and baby, so no one but the mother and her doctors should have a single say in one being done.
Gotcha, I get what you are saying. I’m having a bit of a ‘mare here!
 

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Pregnant woman shocked after GP ‘gave her anti-abortion leaflet’

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2...aflet-society-protection-unborn-children-spuc

A pregnant woman who told her GP she was considering having an abortion says she was left “shocked and traumatised” after being given a leaflet for an anti-abortion group.

The woman, 38, says she was seeking treatment for a bladder problem on 19 July when a doctor at All Saints Medical Centre in Plumstead, south-east London, asked whether she was pregnant.

When she said that she was, she claims the male GP asked whether it was “happy news”, before giving her a leaflet for the Society for the Protection of Unborn Children (SPUC) when she said she “wasn’t sure” and was considering a termination.

The leaflet, entitled Abortion – Your Right to Know, had phone numbers for services run by anti-abortion groups that claim to offer pregnancy support. It also listed potential risks of abortion, which it falsely said included depression, anxiety, eating disorders, PTSD, infertility and breast cancer.

The woman, who asked not to be named because her family do not know about the pregnancy, also claims the doctor provided inaccurate advice about fertility, and told her having an abortion was likely to affect her ability to conceive in future.
 

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Some of the videos posted here... Their obsession with rape and trying to downplay it is not normal, they are clearly fecked in the head. I would bet all my money some of these folks have some fecked up and illegal porn on their computers.