Has political correctness actually gone mad?

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Hard to say. A collision of toxic masculinity and toxic social media? My main question is how this is related to the issue of political correctness?
Your main question has me befuddled too.

Yer wan’s Twitter account is interesting. She’s really going after him. Tweeting at the airline and journalists who’d recently written about his business. Going all in because someone wrote something mean about her in a message to his wife. Bit mad really.

Wonder if she has a leg to stand on legally. Not slander or defamation. You’ve no legal right to not be slagged off in a private conversation. Is it illegal to photograph someone without consent in a public place? I don’t think it is.
 

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Wonder if she has a leg to stand on legally. Not slander or defamation. You’ve no legal right to not be slagged off in a private conversation. Is it illegal to photograph someone without consent in a public place? I don’t think it is.
Several of her twitter allies that I saw were saying she had to get the police involved, but they would need his phone to decrypt the whatsapp logs and cctv from the plane.

Twitter users surely aren’t real people any more, must all be parodies or bots.
 

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What is that even about, shows how out of touch with modern gaming I am but I don't recognize the character?
 

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Undoubtedly yes.

It was political correctness, or more specifically, race relations that led to thousands of non-Muslim children to get groomed, tortured and gang-raped by Muslim grooming gangs in the UK.

The utter cowardice of our police force, agencies and civil servants who let this continue for decades makes my blood boil.
 

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Undoubtedly yes.

It was political correctness, or more specifically, race relations that led to thousands of non-Muslim children to get groomed, tortured and gang-raped by Muslim grooming gangs in the UK.

The utter cowardice of our police force, agencies and civil servants who let this continue for decades makes my blood boil.
The fact that you're trying to emphasis that they are Muslim, and that the victims are non-Muslim, is part of the reason why I can understand one would be hesitant to mention the religious aspect.

Why does it matter that the grooming gangs were Muslim or even immigrant background? Good ol' white British Christians don't go around raping children? I would love to know when previous rapes were committed if it were mentioned that the person is white, British and Christian, if we want the same standards.
 

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Undoubtedly yes.

It was political correctness, or more specifically, race relations that led to thousands of non-Muslim children to get groomed, tortured and gang-raped by Muslim grooming gangs in the UK.

The utter cowardice of our police force, agencies and civil servants who let this continue for decades makes my blood boil.
Go get em, tiger.

https://www.ucl.ac.uk/news/2020/dec...-admits-grooming-gangs-are-not-muslim-problem


Analysis: A new Home Office report admits grooming gangs are not a ‘Muslim problem'
20 December 2020
The study finds no credible evidence for a far-right stereotype that has spread widely in the media, writes Dr Ella Cockbain (UCL Security & Crime Science) in a joint-authored article.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/...w-race-religion-home-office-b1774161.html?amp

Grooming gangs come from ‘diverse backgrounds’, says Home Office as review finally published

“Research has found that group-based child sexual exploitation (CSE) offenders are most commonly white," it added.
 

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Undoubtedly yes.

It was political correctness, or more specifically, race relations that led to thousands of non-Muslim children to get groomed, tortured and gang-raped by Muslim grooming gangs in the UK.

The utter cowardice of our police force, agencies and civil servants who let this continue for decades makes my blood boil.
Have you heard of the Catholic Church?
 

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I think y'all are mis-interpreting him. I don't think he specifically implied grooming was a Muslim problem, but rather that law enforcement was hesitant in tackling specific cases for reasons of racism optics. Whether that is true or not, I don't know. But I think that's what @MalcolmTucker is saying.
 
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I respect that they owned it!
Aye, obviously what he was saying is a lot of shite but it's actually kind of refreshing for someone to just out themselves like that, rather than those who are clearly racist but when called out will act offended and strenuously deny it, the type who will use dog whistles and subtle language to try and disguise what they are.
 

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Aye, obviously what he was saying is a lot of shite but it's actually kind of refreshing for someone to just out themselves like that, rather than those who are clearly racist but when called out will act offended and strenuously deny it, the type who will use dog whistles and subtle language to try and disguise what they are.
There's this infamous quote from a Soldiers of Odin Facebook group that I won't post because it's in Norwegian.

The admins called for a boycott of kebabs and all other "Muslim" food, and said that people should eat traditional Norwegian food.

A member replied that even though he's pretty racist this is going too far, people should be able to eat whatever they want.
 

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Go get em, tiger.

https://www.ucl.ac.uk/news/2020/dec...-admits-grooming-gangs-are-not-muslim-problem


Analysis: A new Home Office report admits grooming gangs are not a ‘Muslim problem'
20 December 2020
The study finds no credible evidence for a far-right stereotype that has spread widely in the media, writes Dr Ella Cockbain (UCL Security & Crime Science) in a joint-authored article.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/...w-race-religion-home-office-b1774161.html?amp

Grooming gangs come from ‘diverse backgrounds’, says Home Office as review finally published

“Research has found that group-based child sexual exploitation (CSE) offenders are most commonly white," it added.
Have you actually read the report rather than just parroting misleading headlines?



When you actually look into the report, all the studies show that White people (approximately 88% of the population) are hugely underrepresented and Asians (7% of the population) and Black people (3% of the population) are hugely overrepresented. Even if you look at study b, which claims Whites are the largest category, when we look into the report we see:



35% were White with only 11% being British (underrepresented)
28% were of Asian & Middle Eastern descent (4x over base representation)
16% were Black (5.3x overrepresentation)

The media telling us it's most commonly White is like saying a Labrador is more dangerous than an adder because more people die from dog bites in Britain every year. Unfortunately people like you fall for it.

And these statistics are just the abusers who have been arrested. As I alluded to in my original post, if you look into the Rotherham and Telford reports, it explicitly states that this has been covered up and suppressed because of the racial element.


At 10m19s of this BBC Panorama documentary, a Home Office researcher was told to never refer to grooming gang perpetrators as Asian men and was sent on a diversity course. She was told to change her findings and had her data stolen. Also in the documentary it shows how a 13 year old girl took a bloody coat she was gang-raped in to the police and they 'lost' the DNA evidence. In the documentary, it shows how many of the abusers are inexplicably still free and how the police turned a blind eye, in some cases arresting the girls. One abuser told a victim that if he got in trouble, he'd play the race card.

The recent Telford Report details how the rapists would take girls out to remote locations at night and threaten to abandon them if they did not engage in sexual behaviour; or would simply rape them. Girls would get taken to rooms in nightclubs, restaurants and takeaways to be exploited by multiple men - there was even a known 'rape house'. Disclosures were made that there were minibuses full of children being trafficked out of Telford for the purposes of gang rape. Witnesses have said the 1,000 abused children figure being touted is 'conservative' or 'tame' and this is only in the town of Telford. When the girls attempted to end the abuse, the men would remind them of what happened to Lucy Lowe, a grooming gang victim who was burned alive by her abuser, along with her family in a deliberate house fire - Lucy had a child with her abuser when she was only 14 who managed to survive and there's a documentary about her story. The report confirms that the majority of the CSE suspects in Telford were ‘of southern Asian heritage’. However, these men were protected by the police, the council, teachers and agencies because of fears of racism



This is overwhelmingly a Pakistani Muslim problem and the biggest child protection scandal in UK history. Since the 80s, hundreds of thousands of underage White and Sikh girls have gang-raped, beaten and tortured by Muslim grooming gangs. Teenage girls were targeted because they were White and called worthless and trash - it is the most egregious example of racism in modern Britain, yet the people who have responded to this thread have glibly called me racist for pointing out this tragedy and cover up. I will suspend my ire and assume most of you do this because you are simply ignorant and will read this information I've provided and revise your opinion on the subject. I urge people to read the Telford report and watch the Panorama documentary and an interview with a grooming gang survivor to get understanding of how horrific the crimes are and who has been committing them.
 

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@MalcolmTucker - do you have a response? You were in a rush to say I called you a racist yet you've been remarkably silent since my above post?
 

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When the feck did I call you a racist?
This is the order of the posts you were quoting:

"To be fair, I am bit racist."

:lol:
I respect that they owned it!
Aye, obviously what he was saying is a lot of shite but it's actually kind of refreshing for someone to just out themselves like that, rather than those who are clearly racist but when called out will act offended and strenuously deny it, the type who will use dog whistles and subtle language to try and disguise what they are.
What was I outing myself as @Cascarino?
 

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Have you actually read the report rather than just parroting misleading headlines?



When you actually look into the report, all the studies show that White people (approximately 88% of the population) are hugely underrepresented and Asians (7% of the population) and Black people (3% of the population) are hugely overrepresented. Even if you look at study b, which claims Whites are the largest category, when we look into the report we see:



35% were White with only 11% being British (underrepresented)
28% were of Asian & Middle Eastern descent (4x over base representation)
16% were Black (5.3x overrepresentation)

The media telling us it's most commonly White is like saying a Labrador is more dangerous than an adder because more people die from dog bites in Britain every year. Unfortunately people like you fall for it.

And these statistics are just the abusers who have been arrested. As I alluded to in my original post, if you look into the Rotherham and Telford reports, it explicitly states that this has been covered up and suppressed because of the racial element.


At 10m19s of this BBC Panorama documentary, a Home Office researcher was told to never refer to grooming gang perpetrators as Asian men and was sent on a diversity course. She was told to change her findings and had her data stolen. Also in the documentary it shows how a 13 year old girl took a bloody coat she was gang-raped in to the police and they 'lost' the DNA evidence. In the documentary, it shows how many of the abusers are inexplicably still free and how the police turned a blind eye, in some cases arresting the girls. One abuser told a victim that if he got in trouble, he'd play the race card.

The recent Telford Report details how the rapists would take girls out to remote locations at night and threaten to abandon them if they did not engage in sexual behaviour; or would simply rape them. Girls would get taken to rooms in nightclubs, restaurants and takeaways to be exploited by multiple men - there was even a known 'rape house'. Disclosures were made that there were minibuses full of children being trafficked out of Telford for the purposes of gang rape. Witnesses have said the 1,000 abused children figure being touted is 'conservative' or 'tame' and this is only in the town of Telford. When the girls attempted to end the abuse, the men would remind them of what happened to Lucy Lowe, a grooming gang victim who was burned alive by her abuser, along with her family in a deliberate house fire - Lucy had a child with her abuser when she was only 14 who managed to survive and there's a documentary about her story. The report confirms that the majority of the CSE suspects in Telford were ‘of southern Asian heritage’. However, these men were protected by the police, the council, teachers and agencies because of fears of racism



This is overwhelmingly a Pakistani Muslim problem and the biggest child protection scandal in UK history. Since the 80s, hundreds of thousands of underage White and Sikh girls have gang-raped, beaten and tortured by Muslim grooming gangs. Teenage girls were targeted because they were White and called worthless and trash - it is the most egregious example of racism in modern Britain, yet the people who have responded to this thread have glibly called me racist for pointing out this tragedy and cover up. I will suspend my ire and assume most of you do this because you are simply ignorant and will read this information I've provided and revise your opinion on the subject. I urge people to read the Telford report and watch the Panorama documentary and an interview with a grooming gang survivor to get understanding of how horrific the crimes are and who has been committing them.
Re your statistics about race, you’re relying on the overall Uk population being 88% white in order to support the idea that brown/black people are over-represented amongst the abusers. I’m sure that 88% figure doesn’t hold true in the predominantly very poor neighbourhoods where these girls and their predators live. Once you try and factor that in there’s a good chance the apparent ethnic bias goes away.
 

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I have no idea either, yet.
Re your statistics about race, you’re relying on the overall Uk population being 88% white in order to support the idea that brown/black people are over-represented amongst the abusers. I’m sure that 88% figure doesn’t hold true in the predominantly very poor neighbourhoods where these girls and their predators live. Once you try and factor that in there’s a good chance the apparent ethnic bias goes away.
Exactly, race is often interwoven with economic class. So if you take economic sections and then analyse by race often the stats are wholly different.
 

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Re your statistics about race, you’re relying on the overall Uk population being 88% white in order to support the idea that brown/black people are over-represented amongst the abusers. I’m sure that 88% figure doesn’t hold true in the predominantly very poor neighbourhoods where these girls and their predators live. Once you try and factor that in there’s a good chance the apparent ethnic bias goes away.
So your argument is very poor neighbourhoods have more brown and black people and that's why they are overrepresented? Are you suggesting that poverty causes people to gang-rape underage girls? Is there some phenomenon where any group of people who move into say Rotherham or Rochdale would be more inclined to participate in child sex exploitation no matter their culture? Why don't we see grooming gangs in even more deprived areas in Wales? These crimes were being committed by people who owned nightclubs, restaurants and takeaways in places like Oxford, Bristol and London. It's a very poor attempt to explain away a 4x over base representation and that's before we take into account that there's been a massive cover up as evidenced in the Telford report and Panorama documentary - the overrepresentation is much, much higher at least for the Pakistani Muslim demographic.

Also. Strange choice of thread to discuss child abuse.
This thread is about political correctness, which is often mocked by the members of the board, however as you can see from the Telford report, political correctness can have the most horrific consequences