Is this the worst it's been?

[Isotope]

Were they semi pro back then?

Safe to say, football wasn't their main interest.

 

[Mr. MUJAC]

Did you read the OP?

No? Try reading it then

Apologies...too quick on the draw!

 

[Maticmaker]

I doubt it. Don’t get me wrong, I liked the Doc’s footballing philosophy but I don’t think he was a league winning manager. We did play some exciting football under him. Loved Hill, Coppell, Pearson, Macari, Buchan etc etc.

IMO Tommy Doc's greatest contribution to the club wasn't just the new team he put together, it was the getting rid of the previous lot. He got rid of players who wanted to play where they wanted, who wouldn't train properly, who wanted to improve their golf handicap more than their on the pitch game, whose outside interests were getting their priority, etc. Tommy did what Ralf has to do now and clear out the stables, it meant the club going down to Div 2 for a season, but it cleared the decks.

 

[I'm a beautiful thing]

It was bad back in the early 70s,i was 13 when Doc came and after relegation we were exciting to watch, it was great to be winning matches again,.
No this isn't the worse it's been

 

[Foxbatt]

IMO Tommy Doc's greatest contribution to the club wasn't just the new team he put together, it was the getting rid of the previous lot. He got rid of players who wanted to play where they wanted, who wouldn't train properly, who wanted to improve their golf handicap more than their on the pitch game, whose outside interests were getting their priority, etc. Tommy did what Ralf has to do now and clear out the stables, it meant the club going down to Div 2 for a season, but it cleared the decks.

Exactly. He cleaned up the squad. RR needs to do the same.

 

[Samid]

Yes

 

[Desert Eagle]

Tune in next week for the next episode in this great series.

 

[Catt]

Jeps!

 

[C3Pique]

There's always next week

 

[soapythecat]

It’s going to get a lot worse. Players are not recovering from this. I honestly think we will be battling relegation this season

 

[dinostar77]

Its a steep learning curve for ETH. Some hubris on his part as well. We will be fine under him eventually. It will just take time.

 

[Nickosaur]

This is the worst it's been - so far

 

[AndySmith1990]

God help us if Liverpool are clinical next week

 

[rooney2009]

Rock Bottom

 

[Offside]

First time lost our first 2 games in 30 years?

 

[El-Manos]

This needed to happen because that feckin board needs to get their ass in motion. Disgraceful considering where we finished last season and the players we have brought in so far.

 

[Lecland07]

It can now be confirmed this is indeed the worst.

 

[dinostar77]

It’s going to get a lot worse. Players are not recovering from this. I honestly think we will be battling relegation this season

6 pointer against saints soon. Nail biter of a game. Hopefully liverpool play their reserve team against us next week to give us some semblance of a chance. Its like shooting a injured bambi. No sport.

 

[space]

this is worst… so far

 

[Godfather]

Can we just bin half the squad please

 

[El Jefe]

Easily. 2022 has been rotten.

 

[pascell]

The worst has to be last season, hammerings at home from both Liverpool and City, not sacking Ole after them, then only pulling the trigger after another thumping from Watford away.

 

[Offside]

Gakpro will turn things around.

 

[Jezpeza]

It’s going to get a lot worse. Players are not recovering from this. I honestly think we will be battling relegation this season

For me, the players he have arent good enough, arent buying his system and are down to dogshit levels two games in.

I dont see what we will do to change it - pre season gone, no signings will be coming in that hugely change this.

Will be interesting too see how long the points tally is less important than the ‘project’ at this rate

 

[STBJohnny]

worst I have seen as a man utd supporter for over 30 years. Im not joking I do think we are in a relegation fight this season. This team has no spirit or guts. God help us when we play Liverpool. I have no idea how to fix this mess.

 

[Godfather]

Get the pitchforks out. To throw a billion fecking pounds out just to field a team like that is fecking criminal

 

[Rolaholic]

Yes, our nightmare seasons of late didn't begin as nightmares.

We're trending towards a relegation battle right now and we've got fecking Liverpool, Citeh and Arsenal coming up over the next month and a half...

 

[RomfordRed75]

Yes because of the optimism with a new manager everyone wanted and now to start to the season after getting totally outplayed and outfought by Brighton and Brentford makes it rock bottom for me.

 

[Ayoba]

It's going to get worse

 

[SuperiorXI]

God help us if Liverpool are clinical next week

It will be like last season. After twatting the piss out of us and playing with our entrails they'll decided to take it easy and pass it about for 30 mins.

 

[Chip]

Worst so far. Even worse next weekend.

 

[HookedOnAPhelan]

Yep. It is.

 

[The Irish Connection]

I wasn’t around in the 80s. We had some very poor finishes then. Was it as bad as this then?

 

[Dr. StrangeHate]

I won't be surprised if Liverpool hit double figures next week.

 

[Rolaholic]

We watched one of our worst squads ever last season, lost 6+ senior players on frees/transfers/loans, got just 3 new players in the window and started lineups with the majority of the XI from last season who caused that shitshow and we expected miracles...

 

[R'hllor]

Can we just bin half the squad please

50% aint enough

 

[CassiusClaymore]

Absolutely. Can't stand most of them. At least in the 80's I saw players like Robson that gave a stuff.

 

[kps88]

The worst has to be last season, hammerings at home from both Liverpool and City, not sacking Ole after them, then only pulling the trigger after another thumping from Watford away.

At least last season we had the hope of a new manager coming in and magically improving us. This is worse for me as I don't see any way out and the squad has arguably gotten even weaker from last season. And the hammerings at home from Liverpool and City are yet to come.

 

[maximus419]

Given the form of 2022 I'd say it's as bad as it's ever been from PL point of view.

I don't even think we've hit rock bottom yet. We know Liverpool game is essentially a loss already. My concern is, what the table looks like after 8 or 9 games. If we are well adrift by then I think Utd will go down, it's impossible to see this being turned around with this group.

No fight, mentally and physically weak, leaderless, those are always the early signs of a team in big trouble.

 

[Caius]

Absolutely. Can't stand most of them. At least in the 80's I saw players like Robson that gave a stuff.

Yep, not a single player on this team currently I'm excited to watch play