United need new blood in the team so I say get this done and back the Hag. I think he offers dynamism we don't have and is quite rare. 22 is a good age to move.
Antony | Here we go! €100mill, contract until June 2027, option 'til 2028.
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik @Rood and Imran @Annihilate Now! start with the good news by celebrating Manchester United Women's emphatic FA Cup win over Spurs at Wembley and the future of manager Marc Skinner.
Then it's the bad news and the ever worsening form of our Men with losses to Arsenal and Palace.
Finally the main debate - ETH Out now or keep him until the end of the season - if not longer. Are you Team Nik or Team Imran?
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Really? Forgive me for stereotyping but that doesn't seem like a common thing for Brazilian wingers.
You are right mate,he went in january! My bad
all the windows merge into one to be fair.So true
Let’s stick with our amazing youth products like Rashford and Elanga instead.
So who is the Premier League comparison (past or present) for this guy?
HE will help ETH implement his pressing style so of course im backing it mate!
And we should also sign proven players like Pogba, Maguire, Cavani, Lukaku and Sanchez
You people are insane.
Eth has worked with him and if he thinks, Antony is needed at the club, it would mean he is offering more than what Rashford and Elanga are offering.
Sancho prefers the left side which he would get if Antony comes in.
We might become a bit better on the wings. We currently play with no width, no one stretches the play and Antony might give us that bit extra. All in the air, he could also flop massively
By the way, I've been checking numbers and two seasons ago (20/21) Antony played 1700 minutes in the league, scored 9 goals, had 8 assists with 1.8 shots p/90.
The following season (21/22) he played the same minutes but scored 8 goals (1 less), had 4 assists (4 less) and he had 3.4 shots p/90, around double than the previous season.
I didn't follow his evolution closely but it looks like he started playing in a more collective way in 20/21, and last season he played in a much more individualistic way, shooting at higher rate per game than everyone at Ajax but producing less than the previous season, and assisting half of it too.
Not only his numbers are nothing extraordinary considering it's the Eredivisie, he isn't showing there a clear evolution or maturity to justify a big transfer, let alone the numbers we're talking about. If we waited one season Ajax would be more open to sell next summer and we wouldn't need to spend that much.
Antony would keep favouring meeting with ETH more than probably, and we would have another season to evaluate the player and have a final judgement. It's not like Antony guarantees anything in the immediate term, so I don't know why this urgency and getting crazy for this guy now.
The following season (21/22) he played the same minutes but scored 8 goals (1 less), had 4 assists (4 less) and he had 3.4 shots p/90, around double than the previous season.
I didn't follow his evolution closely but it looks like he started playing in a more collective way in 20/21, and last season he played in a much more individualistic way, shooting at higher rate per game than everyone at Ajax but producing less than the previous season, and assisting half of it too.
Not only his numbers are nothing extraordinary considering it's the Eredivisie, he isn't showing there a clear evolution or maturity to justify a big transfer, let alone the numbers we're talking about. If we waited one season Ajax would be more open to sell next summer and we wouldn't need to spend that much.
Antony would keep favouring meeting with ETH more than probably, and we would have another season to evaluate the player and have a final judgement. It's not like Antony guarantees anything in the immediate term, so I don't know why this urgency and getting crazy for this guy now.
After being told that the club is spending €100m for a Brazilian winger, I wouldn’t be surprised if the Glazers thought they were going for Neymar
We should have bought him. A deal could have been done, they sold him for peanuts six months later.
I wouldn’t be surprised if they didn’t know who Neymar is.
Blasphemy, what are you, a Feyenoord fan?!
They're being sarcastic
Dutch coaches are pretty arrogant aren't they? Feck off Schreuder your boy wants to leave.
First time in the Caf mate?
Replacement for Martinez.
100m is a good deal for us:
Player value: 40m
Cost of wasting cash on a shit alternative that will be instant deadwood: 35m
Cost of having Elanga as starter/first option: 60m
We are actually saving money
Player value: 40m
Cost of wasting cash on a shit alternative that will be instant deadwood: 35m
Cost of having Elanga as starter/first option: 60m
We are actually saving money
You’ve gone to a lot of trouble there and it is appreciated.
I would suggest players can evolve without their “numbers” getting higher.
If ETH wants him I think we need to get him now. He’s already around the Brazil squad and waiting until next season carries the risk that he will be more expensive and / or will have other options.
Makes sense wich is worrying.100m is a good deal for us:
Player value: 40m
Cost of wasting cash on a shit alternative that will be instant deadwood: 35m
Cost of having Elanga as starter/first option: 60m
We are actually saving money
There was a winger called Bernard I remember who was around the Brazil squad. He was pants.
Cross between Patrick Berger and Zenden
There was also this fella called Ronaldinho. He was decent
I remember, we were in a contest for him with Barcelona. Who else is in for this guy?
Try stuff instead of waiting for things to happen.
I don’t think anyone else is?
Actually Liverpool were fiddling around. The player wants to go to United though.
Surely, the board will get involved in this and ignore the coaches opinion - they can't turn down that kind of money. Logic
Best since last year right..., I here it every year, the reality is Dutch league players hardly ever succeed in the premier and you are missing the point we on course to have be fleeced 3 times this summer which will put our spending to around 200 million on just 4 players of Antony, martinez, a 30 year old casimero and malacia, that does not scream great value for the money spent and is not a sustainable strategy for any club that is not state owned
They wouldn’t be negotiating with us if they weren’t prepared to sell
Stam, Bergkamp, Overmars, Robben, RvN, RvP.. I can go on if you want?
I think the signings are good and not that expensive. You are mistaken if you think we can snap up a few world beaters for £50. Spending is essential. It may not be sustainable but then we probably won’t sustain it. Next year we will spend less. Try not to worry so much.
This, completely…
The lack of respect from some of these teams boils my pi$$! They know full well why one of their players might want to come to test themselves in the PL, play for a massive institution like United and maybe be part of our resurgence…by all means say you’re not selling but these sly digs…totally unnecessary…
So late 90's/early 2000's, there is a far bigger gap in quality these days, we constantly see the best Dutch league players come over here and struggle over the past 10 -15 years from klassan to depay, the only one that stands out in all of that time that has been a legit success is suarez.
For having such a slight frame, he really does look strong on the ball after watching a few Champions league highlights of Ajax. The Dortmund game springs to mind.
…ooh, that sounds uncomfortable…poor sod…!
You'd think people would have learned by now, but apparently not.
What?
We've paid fecking massive money for some dead certs, who've proven plenty, and they've also turned out fecking wank.
All it proves is that whatever the fee, players can turn out good, or shite.
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