Who, with me, believes we can win the premier league?
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I think Liverpool and Chelsea will both greatly underachieve this season, they just have this air of frailty about them. Arsenal, despite the good start, are always a loss or two away from falling apart. Spurs are kind of similar and can go on awful runs. So its not beyond the realms of possibility for us to compete with City, who I feel are a couple tweaks from figuring it out and going on one of their famous winning streaks. I don't see us in the title picture come the end of the season, or even 10 games out for that matter, but who knows.
I said right after the Brentford game we would win the league. I posted it on here, probably been deleted though in error so unfortunately I have no proof.
Shame.
Shame.
No, but we might be able to make top 4 if we keep up the hard work. I don't think a team without a striker can really challenge City.
Stranger things have happened and only a few seasons back. Leicester were 500/1 to win the league at the start of that season. If Casemiro and Anthony fit in as well as the other three have, we will be hard to beat.
Difficult to see where the goals are going to come from at this point but if ETH can make it work with Ronaldo, Sancho, Anthony and Martial who knows where it will take us.
AWB, Maguire, Lindelof, Shaw, Fred, DVB Martial, Ronaldo, Anthony and Casemiro cost a total of nearly 500m and none of them have started our last three league games. 10 outfield players right there, a full second team.
There is no other team in the league who have that.
Difficult to see where the goals are going to come from at this point but if ETH can make it work with Ronaldo, Sancho, Anthony and Martial who knows where it will take us.
AWB, Maguire, Lindelof, Shaw, Fred, DVB Martial, Ronaldo, Anthony and Casemiro cost a total of nearly 500m and none of them have started our last three league games. 10 outfield players right there, a full second team.
There is no other team in the league who have that.
We’re still a year or two away from mounting a serious challenge I think. Hopefully to coincide with Pep’s career break and Klopp’s inevitable mental breakdown.
We can't win shit. As soon as a bit of pressure is added on this team we will fold. We were outplayed by both Liester and Southampton.
Lets see what happens next year and let's not get carried away. I've seen these kind of threads almost in the past.
Save yourself from disappointment.
Lets see what happens next year and let's not get carried away. I've seen these kind of threads almost in the past.
Save yourself from disappointment.
Think there's more chance of a deppo Vs heardio main event match at Wrestlemania.
We're not even more likely than not to finish inside the top four.
No hope, Bob Hope and a pup's chance in hell
We don't have the x factor like the other challengers I feel:
Chelsea: one opposition goal per game chalked off.
Liverpool: Kloppage time and free red card tackles
Man City: Pep
Tottenham: Free s** machoism in penalty box
Arsenal: No one expects them to win
Chelsea: one opposition goal per game chalked off.
Liverpool: Kloppage time and free red card tackles
Man City: Pep
Tottenham: Free s** machoism in penalty box
Arsenal: No one expects them to win
As Naruto once said: Let's get wild.
It's certainly possible, a top defense can do wonders.
I think many will be back to earth with a big bump after tomorrow.
Now that the window's over it looks like the best we can hope for is a top four finish and even that is only because some of the teams expected to be in that group look vulnerable.
We are going to be the club nobody wants to play this year. The club with good speed and passing that the best clubs can shut down in midfield. Main goal is trying to get into CL for next year, it's gonna be tough.
We are going to be the club nobody wants to play this year. The club with good speed and passing that the best clubs can shut down in midfield. Main goal is trying to get into CL for next year, it's gonna be tough.
Spurs have Conte now, any bad season from Klopp and Pep they will be there to pick up the title I think.
we are too light up front for a title challenge but top4 is realistic
Dattebayo!
We will not drop too many points, if the other title challengers struggle ,then we have a good chance this season.80 points title winner will see us clinching it.
Yeah, no
If by W16 we are not far off (1-3 points) top spot, we can mount a serious challenge. We would need a striker in January though.
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In 92/93, We were bottom of the League after 2 games, staring disaster in the face with back to back defeats.
We went on to win the league by a staggering 10 points ending our 26 year drought.
Now, 30 years on and 10 years without a title. We've once again found ourself bottom of the league after 2 games with back to back defeats.
Is history about to repeat itself.
We went on to win the league by a staggering 10 points ending our 26 year drought.
Now, 30 years on and 10 years without a title. We've once again found ourself bottom of the league after 2 games with back to back defeats.
Is history about to repeat itself.
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I think we could get to the point where we are feeling the lack of a new striker really cost us a real close title challenge which would be an amazing leap this season. It would mean all our newbies really impressing which would be great. Kane next summer (he’ll have a year left) would be the icing on the cake.
This season? No chance.
If we get three points from the Arsenal game I'll know we aren't fecking about.
Yes. With all due respect to the poster’s optimism, it’s highly unlikely. Give it a couple years with ETH still here, then I think you’re onto something.
Let’s take it a bit at a time.
No? Yeah.
No chance of winning the league. The most I'd give us is a chance of being in top 4 race.
One game at a time as see where we are.
I do think that we're improving fairly rapidly, the transfer window went well in the end, EtH is getting performances out of some of the more coachable players like Sancho and McT.
Win the league is a big ask, but I wouldn't be surprised to finish 2nd or 3rd, ahead of Liverpool.
I do think that we're improving fairly rapidly, the transfer window went well in the end, EtH is getting performances out of some of the more coachable players like Sancho and McT.
Win the league is a big ask, but I wouldn't be surprised to finish 2nd or 3rd, ahead of Liverpool.
Here's a thing though. As absurd as it is: If we should beat Arsenal tomorrow, we'll be 3 points off the top. And will have had a better start than most of our main competitors. Better than City, Liverpool and Chelsea, about as good as Arsenal and almost as good as Spurs.
Because after 6 games, you have to take into account the quality of the opposition teams have faced. On that basis, arguably no team in the league has had a worse start (ie dropped more bad points) than Chelsea and Liverpool. City has dropped 4 points they definitely should not have been dropping. Arsenal must and should expect at least a point at Trafford, and while they have won their first 5 games, none of them have been against teams they should drop points against. We've dropped 6 bad points of course, but then again we'd have beaten Liverpool (and Arsenal, in this scenario). Of the big 6, only Spurs have gotten the points they should.
My answer to OP is obviously still no, but just saying....our strongest competitors in the big 6 have had a really bad start, worse in fact than ours. And worse than the league table alone says. There's more of an opportunity here to do well than we had any right to hope for.
Because after 6 games, you have to take into account the quality of the opposition teams have faced. On that basis, arguably no team in the league has had a worse start (ie dropped more bad points) than Chelsea and Liverpool. City has dropped 4 points they definitely should not have been dropping. Arsenal must and should expect at least a point at Trafford, and while they have won their first 5 games, none of them have been against teams they should drop points against. We've dropped 6 bad points of course, but then again we'd have beaten Liverpool (and Arsenal, in this scenario). Of the big 6, only Spurs have gotten the points they should.
My answer to OP is obviously still no, but just saying....our strongest competitors in the big 6 have had a really bad start, worse in fact than ours. And worse than the league table alone says. There's more of an opportunity here to do well than we had any right to hope for.
Nah, not this season. We're a few seasons off and a few odd results won't change my mind.
When I read the thread title I was very worried we'd turned into 2000s RAWK. Glad our posters have more sense.
Not even a consideration, we should just be focused on improving and aiming for ~80 points as a solid base to build on going forwards, and qualification for CL.
If there's a freak season where all the top teams drop a lot of points, low 80s may be enough to win it like Leicester did with 81. But that seems highly unlikely with Liverpool and City regularly racking up 90+ over the past few seasons. Chelsea, Arsenal and Spurs all been in and around the high 60s-70s as we have, and not impossible one of them could get 80-90 if it goes their way - at least as much chance as we have ourselves. So even in a freak season with City and Liverpool both imploding, we're just one of four teams who would be hoping to steal it.
If there's a freak season where all the top teams drop a lot of points, low 80s may be enough to win it like Leicester did with 81. But that seems highly unlikely with Liverpool and City regularly racking up 90+ over the past few seasons. Chelsea, Arsenal and Spurs all been in and around the high 60s-70s as we have, and not impossible one of them could get 80-90 if it goes their way - at least as much chance as we have ourselves. So even in a freak season with City and Liverpool both imploding, we're just one of four teams who would be hoping to steal it.
Agreed. Those “this is our time” Arsenal fans are about to be given a dose of reality!
Obviously we are not winning the league this year.
They weren't really odd results in that we were the better team in all three games.
But I get what you're saying, beware of false dawns and all that. We've seen our share of those over the last decade or so.
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@SilentWitness will I get busted again if I unleash the laugh emojis? Can you indulge me just this once?
Takin' it off, Boss.
Takin' it off, Boss.
Not yet, Halaand just gives city too many goals. Although I see us finishing second/third, Liverpool seems disorganized and Núñez still doesn’t convince me as a top striker.
Have some faith guys.
Antony is going to tear this place up
Antony is going to tear this place up