Thomas Tuchel | Gone to & from Bayern (In Summer)

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Tuchel spent a load of money this summer with no semblance of a plan and they also look clueless on the pitch. As they did at the end of last season.

He just isn’t a particularly high quality manager, and the way he’s been laying into his players endlessly for the last couple of months has almost certainly lost him the dressing room. Absolutely the correct decision to sack him, the mistake was giving him carte blanche over transfers this summer when his situation was already rocky.
 

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Thank feck Ralf didnt do well enough to be given the job full time. If he did Chelsea would 100% go for Ten Hag right now.
 

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They are 5 points off top and 2 points behind united. won them the CL too.
What a rash decision.
 

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Oh no! Third best manager in the league according to some poster on Redcafe is gone. In the end, he was nothing but De Matteo version 2.
That seems extremely harsh.

I cant help but think wether the sacking of Petr Chech has something to do with this. Tuchel suddenly had much more responsibility and his focus would largely have been divided?
I know Ten Hag likes to have so much responsibility but Tuchel seems to thrive more with a well structured system, rather then having to handle a lot of the transfer business etc himself.
 

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I wish he'd stfu, this was the same prat that wanted Ole to be given more time, had we acted as quickly, we might not have allowed that clown to waste hundreds of millions which a proper manager could have done with.

Chelsea looked shite in every department, now watch Potter come in and turn it around, then we'll be asking how Chelsea seem to fix their mess so quickly.
 

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Chelsea have won both of their two CLs using interim managers, or ones come in mid-season after the previous was fired. The board have a clear strategy. :lol:

I'm fully expecting Brendan Rodgers to win Chelsea's third CL this season. :houllier:
 

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I hate his hysterical behaviour around the games. He's such an attention whore down the line, which is really annoying. For that reason it's good riddance. Apart from that however it's an insane decision unless something major happened between him and the players.

It'd be fun if Chelsea go behind at the debut of the new coach and the opposition fans start singing 'sacked in the morning'.
 

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Everyone frightened about them getting Potter but this is a different level altogether. I don’t see a Potter appointment much different to us hiring David Moyes. No guarantee of success at all.
I feel like they're quite different and not comparable. Moyes didn't particularly have a distinct style of football that you'd consider to be a blueprint for future teams to replicate. He certainly managed to overperform with us and his best attributes were likely his man management/shrewd transfer business. Something you'd say were two of SAFs biggest qualities.

Potter is a manager that has a style of football which he's taken to each team he's been to and made excellent progress with. It's a style which is the present and future of football. It's not guaranteed success but it's more likely it works than the Moyes scenario.
 

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I wish he'd stfu, this was the same prat that wanted Ole to be given more time, had we acted as quickly, h.we might not have allowed that clown to waste hundreds of millions which a proper manager could have done wit

Chelsea looked shite in every department, now watch Potter come in and turn it around, then we'll be asking how Chelsea seem to fix their mess so quickly.
If only we hadnt hired Moyes, Van Gaal or Mourinho and let them spend money as well.
 

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There's no decision at all on Brighton's side if there is a buyout clause.
yes there is, they can refuse to discuss anything with Chelsea. In this case Potter will be jeopardising his relation with the club and the fans of Brighton.
 

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Potter’s stock has surged ridiculously from this thread. He’s a good manager for Brighton but there’s a world of difference between doing it for Brighton and doing it for Chelsea. Is Todd willing to make such a huge risk? Us taking ETH is a considerable risk but this is a much bigger risk.
Potter got the "Proven in the PL" badge, though.
 

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I like Nev as a pundit, but has he got a short memory? He seems a bit hypocritical sometimes
He's clearly just doing it for bants now, as Chelsea fans have been in his mentions day and night for weeks since he said Boehly reminds him of Woodward.
 

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I feel like they're quite different and not comparable. Moyes didn't particularly have a distinct style of football that you'd consider to be a blueprint for future teams to replicate. He certainly managed to overperform with us and his best attributes were likely his man management/shrewd transfer business. Something you'd say were two of SAFs biggest qualities.

Potter is a manager that has a style of football which he's taken to each team he's been to and made excellent progress with. It's a style which is the present and future of football. It's not guaranteed success but it's more likely it works than the Moyes scenario.
Agree. Also he has been a success in every job he has had so far. His football is really good - just watched the game against Leicester and noticed how many dangerous and technical players he had in his team.
 

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I wish he'd stfu, this was the same prat that wanted Ole to be given more time, had we acted as quickly, we might not have allowed that clown to waste hundreds of millions which a proper manager could have done with.

Chelsea looked shite in every department, now watch Potter come in and turn it around, then we'll be asking how Chelsea seem to fix their mess so quickly.
He's consistent though. Always calling for managers to get more time. Unless it's his own club.
 

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Apparently last nights result had no bearing on this sacking, he was on thin ice win lose or draw. I suspect in that case the new manager is already pinpointed, and it's looking like Poch or Potter.

I think both would actually do well. People on this board were calling for Poch daily not so long back, so lets not pretend he is suddenly a poor coach, because he got sacked by PSG.
 

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Yep, his league form bar the first third of last season has been ok at best. Would have finished 5th the season before if not for a Leicester collapse v Spurs and the nothingness of your league form after Christmas this year. . Maybe when he’s gone you can reassess his run of league results from a more balanced perspective.
 
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I feel like they're quite different and not comparable. Moyes didn't particularly have a distinct style of football that you'd consider to be a blueprint for future teams to replicate. He certainly managed to overperform with us and his best attributes were likely his man management/shrewd transfer business. Something you'd say were two of SAFs biggest qualities.

Potter is a manager that has a style of football which he's taken to each team he's been to and made excellent progress with. It's a style which is the present and future of football. It's not guaranteed success but it's more likely it works than the Moyes scenario.
I think Moyes’ football was hugely underrated personally. He played good attacking stuff, especially towards the end. I don’t think every manager needs to try to invent football. This is what caused many to overlook Ancelotti’s brilliance for so long despite it literally staring them in the face.
 

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Apparently last nights result had no bearing on this sacking, he was on thin ice win lose or draw. I suspect in that case the new manager is already pinpointed, and it's looking like Poch or Potter.

I think both would actually do well. People on this board were calling for Poch daily not so long back, so lets not pretend he is suddenly a poor coach, because he got sacked by PSG.
Was a very large number that didn't want Poch, and made it clear they didn't for a long time before he was sacked from PSG. So let's not pretend folk on here are suddenly saying he's not a great manager.
 

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Have the feeling Chelsea's owners don't really know what they're doing
 

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Boehly gave the keys to Tuchel, pushed out all the other top footballing people from the club in the process, let him make the key decisions on transfers in a summer that went over 200m, then sacked him after six matches.
 

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Pochettino or Zidane (does he want a job or just chill and) would be my guess, but surprised Roberto Mancini isn't on the betting list.

Don't see Potter taking it. I think he'll wait to try to take over a more stable, less insane ownership big job like Liverpool after Klopp, City after Pep or even Spurs after Conte.

World Cup is in 3 months, which is a long time to go with an interim if they want Roberto Martinez (which would seem mad), Deschamps (played for them, but wouldn't be my choice) or another World Cup manager, which really only feels like Luis Enrique, though presumably Cisse of Senegal and however you spell the Danish manager's name will get smaller club jobs soon since they're young and seem to be doing brilliant jobs.
 

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Boehly gave the keys to Tuchel, pushed out all the other top footballing people from the club in the process, let him make the key decisions on transfers in a summer that went over 200m, then sacked him after six matches.
according to the club journos, he was being sacked win lose or draw last night. Something behind the scenes has gone on,and looking on twitter, similar happened at psg and BVB apparently.
 

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I think Moyes’ football was hugely underrated personally. He played good attacking stuff, especially towards the end. I don’t think every manager needs to try to invent football. This is what caused many to overlook Ancelotti’s brilliance for so long despite it literally staring them in the face.
This is fair but I think the modern game, especially the PL can't rely on managers that don't have tactical nous and aren't exceptional tacticians to win it anymore. There is a reason that Pep and Klopp have been at the top so long. They have excellent man managment skills but their tactics and style of play has been the best in world football during the last 5 years. I'm not saying Potter is at that level yet but I feel like he is constantly improving and making it known that he has both of those attributes too.
 

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Apparently last nights result had no bearing on this sacking, he was on thin ice win lose or draw. I suspect in that case the new manager is already pinpointed, and it's looking like Poch or Potter.

I think both would actually do well. People on this board were calling for Poch daily not so long back, so lets not pretend he is suddenly a poor coach, because he got sacked by PSG.
People on this board also thought Tuchel was one of the best managers in the world.
 

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As crazy as it sounds, the sackings Chelsea owners hand out to their managers nevercseem to derail them too much in the sense of being successful. They always manage to compete and win cup competitions irrespective of the manager and I wouldn't put it pass the new incumbent to bag a couple of trophies come end of season.

In one aspect, they don't put up with poor results and give the manager 'time to turn things around' when clearly history tells us that it happens very infrequently!
 

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Why?

Spunking loads of dosh and sacking coaches. It's like Roman all over again and his time at the club was incredibly successful.
Seems way more haphazard and seems like he wants to be center of attention. Granted we don't know the reality but feels like he wants to run the show as opposed to having people take care of the footballing side of things.

An example of being haphazard is buying Tuchel a striker he wants, in Auba and then sacking the manager.
 

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He’s an over-opinionated idiot.
Really? I mean, you might not like him which is fair enough, but the criticism of him being overopinionated seems odd. He's got the largest platform of any pundit in the country so his word likely gets around the most, but I've never thought of him (or any pundit in general, really) as being overopinionated.