RkkMan
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You're massively undervaluing Ten Hag.Ancelottiis in the elite and is retiring
Conte, Tuchel, Simeone, Mancini, Enrique, Flick, Emery all agree.
Galtier, ETH.
Galtier - how? Is this purely based off winning Ligue 1 once? He won a cup back in the day with Saint Etienne but this seems very revisionist i.e. he won the league the year Poch joined mid season and therefore he is better. PSG look much better this season but let's see how they do in the CL later stages.
ETH - as much as I hope this is true, we can't become RAWK and avoid any kind of logic when assessing our own manager. We don't really know how good or bad ETH will be but his CL run is always lauded as proof of how good he was and Poch knocked him out to reach the final. Managing Ajax doesn't give us a huge amount of insight into his abilities, yes he got them back to winning the league regularly but they are the powerhouse team and De Boer won 4 titles in a row a few years before before completely flopping outside of Holland. We hope he's going to be incredible but I struggle to put him above Poch right this second if football ended today in terms of achievements, maybe I'm undervaluing the Eredivisie but I don't see it.
You still have 3 to name in my mind.
Ajax aside what he did at Ultrecht was majorly majorly impressive if you've read it up. Far more impressive than what Pochettino did at Southampton. He got a relegation threatened Eredevisie Team to successive top 5 finishes and European Places something they hadn't achieved for years while playing beautiful football and losing key players in the process something Pochettino never experienced at Southampton or Spurs. The one time Pochettino had a good squad to work with at PSG he failed badly which has shown he's poor at managing egos and would have likely failed if he was managing a selling club due to poor adaptation to new personnel
Now looking at Ajax Ten over the last 3yrs Liverpool at Anfield is the ONLY away CL game he's lost and he's lost two games away from home in Europe in like 27 games. Pochettino's away record on the other hand in Europe is abysmal last season's capitation at Madrid an example. Ten Hag's Ajax team played better football than Pochettino's and while Spurs did beat them in the semis there's a reason Ajax are remembered more fondly from that CL Campaign than Spurs having knocked out Madrid and Juventus and giving Bayern run arounds in the group stages
Despite losing many key players over a 3yr span Ajax were still regulars in Europe and winning titles. You generically mentioned De Boer as a comparison but you can ask ANY Ajax fan and they'll tell you Ten Hag's football was a hell lot more enjoyable than De Boer's who never got past a CL Group stage mind you. I can't find that article now but metric were compared of Ten Hag and De Boer's Ajax careers of points per game, goals scored, goals conceded per game etc Ten Hag completely obliterates De Boer in every metric statistically
Ten Hag is also the fastest Ajax manager to hit 100 league wins
Long post but just needed to add important information on Ten Hag to give you the correct picture of him