Cristiano Ronaldo: Set to leave by mutual agreement
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I know right. Everyone knows they were a shit UK pop band. Pure and simple
If that means dispelling all that was said and all reason with it so that you can deal in absolutes, then that's up to you. I for one am happy he called out the Glazers despite strongly disagreeing with other aspects of the interview. That's the only point I'm talking about here.
No. That would be Musiala, with stiff competition from Bellingham, Wirtz, Mukoko. I'm sure I'm forgetting couple of others
"Averaged 1.45 g/90 in all his appearances vs Villarreal, Atalanta, Chelsea, Arsenal, and Spurs, all while his team was the worse side in almost all of these games."is one of the funniest ways to stat-pad for a striker, by counting the games he did well and ignoring the others. Why Chelsea, Arsenal, Spurs, and not Liverpool or City? Why Villareal and Atalanta and not Atletico?
"It makes even more sense when you factor in the level of criticism, and scapegoating he'd been at the end of for anything & everything."
Same as with the Sporting fan in this thread - he won POTY. What on earth are you people talking about.
Then of course the thread (following from its idol) skips pre-season, skips what happened when he started vs Brentford and what he didn't vs Liverpool. It's funny that it mentions Brentford (0-4) and Sociedad (0-1), while skipping the scoreline, and the scorelines between those two (2-1, 1-0, 1-0, 3-1)...
Thing is with calling out the Glazers, he was quite happy to take the money, he couldn't care less about what the Glazers do but slagging them off makes sure he keeps some fans on his side.
Zlatan still is number 1 in regard to attention, simply because of his personality and his antics.
He doesn't need to be the top performer to satisfy his narcisism, painting himself as the wise mentor for the young guys actually playing and occasionally appearing on the pitch to save them is enough to grab a lot of attention. I don't think that's a much better or worse level than Ronaldo shows, but the crucial difference really is that he found a new role that suits him, while Ronaldo didn't.
And I think a lot of this is caused by the fact that Ronaldo was breaking records for goals scored and titles won, while Zlatan was always far from that, he always was a player for special moments.
It's much simpler for an aging player to still have some special moments than to keep breaking stat records.
That might actually be good for Portugal. There’ll at least be one player who won’t constantly try to find Ronaldo in the attacking positions.
They were lucky to get games early in their careers and build up a reputation and gather experience. Garnacho is just getting his chance now. Only time will tell if he can keep this sort of form up.
"he's making some good points"
CR37 good points:
There’s no “no” about it, as you bolded off the most important word in my post man
That thread is jokes
it's crazy the spin the Ronaldo apologists try to put on it. Ronaldo is a member of the squad. He was treated like every other player. He didn't like that. That's all there is to it.The eyesThis image gives it away.
"He's mine now"The eyes
"Don't talk to my son ever again"
I think that's a big assumption, because throwing the club under the bus when he is so clearly underperforming himself and tried to get himself out for so long in the summer is, to me, a bad look.
This idea that if he hadn't criticised the manager it would all be fine, no. He seemingly didn't consider the impact his words would have on his teammates who still had games to play before the break, and he timed it so he could avoid the worst of the consequences including being around the club to face the people there.
All he's showing is how much he cares about himself, how he doesn't care about the people around him all that much, and that he is cowardly trying to duck out rather than face the people he slated in the press. Limiting his criticism to the Glazers wouldn't hide how weak this all is.
"he's making some good points"
CR37 good points:
Surely they’re better just playing Felix central anyway? I get Ronaldo is their captain and the group stage is normally a lower standard of opposition but he’s been woeful all season.
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is Bellingham really that good ? will he become another "sancho" should he joined united.
Is there a pole on the cafe to know how many would welcome him back after this?
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Why would a Polish person know how many would welcome him back?
I think @Sarni is from Poland. He might have an idea.
You could accuse Keane of a lot of things, being a coward wasn't one of them.
Also, a team in green hoops wanted him.
Might be. But I always had the feeling that the admiration for him surpassed his, admittedly incredible, athletic achievements and extended to him as a person. Whatever scandal there might have been, whatever criticism, there were always plenty of people jumping to his defense.
Though I should point out it’s not a United exclusive thing. But to me the admiration was always weird. Especially since he peaked elsewhere and you guys should have the ambition to be the club where he peaks.
Finally and none would have a word against that.
Does anyone know how screwed we are? We can't actually move him to another club. The options are end his contract (termination or settlement) or have him stay home till it ends. All this started because we wouldn't pay him off to go pay for someone else. CR is the entitlement of a chick that peaked in highschool, he seems to have no concept of moderate expectation.
I hope to god he doesn't go into punditry because I dread to think how bitter he's going to be if we terminate his contract. He'll make Mike Summerbee seem like a fair and balanced chap.
Ronaldo was just meant to coming back to Manchester United. So this is just meant to happen. At his age. Special when he is not on top level anymore. And it's the manager job to pick the best team. We all knows before he is coming back. That he will not like to sit or start on the bench.
It's not about the name of the manager. He felt out with Juventus manager too. Ole, Ragnick or Ten Hag. It will be a problem no matter the name of the manager.
He is might bitter and frustrated like walking early into the tunnel.
But looking at a bigger picture. It's just meant to happen. Not maybe only when the first time Ronaldo joined and played for United. A already written manuscript of Manchester United and Ronaldo show and movie. So i am not blaming on Ronaldo or any single person. Not a single person can do this whole thing alone. Everyone has plays theirs part. The collective Mancester United. From owner and everyone that is related to this club.
If not for the first hello, those things will not happen. But from the first hello. Do you want to play for United. As a 17 teenager. We are maybe on the last chapter of the movie Ronaldo and Manchester United.
And every storm don't last forever. Storms comes and goes.
And naturally and the best things for all parts. It's to terminate his contract. So he can go anywhere he want. As a free transfer. It's no way back now. I think it has hit the climax now. The drama.
So again. With all the factors, reasons and ingredients like this. And some point it will lead to this result.
Like i said above. I will not blaming or start to dislike Ronaldo or any single person.
Don't blame the players. Blame the game you are playing. It's part of the game and it will happen like this.
And like any storms. It will hit theirs climax, slow it down and disapear by themselves. Just like and Illusion. Like a dream. Welcome to the theathre of Dreams. You are at the right place
It's not about the name of the manager. He felt out with Juventus manager too. Ole, Ragnick or Ten Hag. It will be a problem no matter the name of the manager.
He is might bitter and frustrated like walking early into the tunnel.
But looking at a bigger picture. It's just meant to happen. Not maybe only when the first time Ronaldo joined and played for United. A already written manuscript of Manchester United and Ronaldo show and movie. So i am not blaming on Ronaldo or any single person. Not a single person can do this whole thing alone. Everyone has plays theirs part. The collective Mancester United. From owner and everyone that is related to this club.
If not for the first hello, those things will not happen. But from the first hello. Do you want to play for United. As a 17 teenager. We are maybe on the last chapter of the movie Ronaldo and Manchester United.
And every storm don't last forever. Storms comes and goes.
And naturally and the best things for all parts. It's to terminate his contract. So he can go anywhere he want. As a free transfer. It's no way back now. I think it has hit the climax now. The drama.
So again. With all the factors, reasons and ingredients like this. And some point it will lead to this result.
Like i said above. I will not blaming or start to dislike Ronaldo or any single person.
Don't blame the players. Blame the game you are playing. It's part of the game and it will happen like this.
And like any storms. It will hit theirs climax, slow it down and disapear by themselves. Just like and Illusion. Like a dream. Welcome to the theathre of Dreams. You are at the right place
What seems to be missing in all this uproar is what were the circumstances/promises etc. that brought Ronaldo back to OT? That might shed some light on why he's feeling 'let down'.
I have to admit I couldn't believe when it was announced, why in heaven's name would he want to come back to a struggling club? Was he just being recruited to provide a temporary back up, whilst Rashford got fit, Martial returned to form, or Greenwood was cleared of his problems?
Maybe I missed something in the reading/listening at the time, perhaps someone can clarify?
Did he offer to comeback or was he 'recruited' back into the fold, if so by who? Who were the prime movers, the club or Ronaldo? There was some suggestion SAF played a role, did he? If so, what did he say, did he promise something on behalf of the club on whose authority? What was Ole's role? Was this just another (now infamous) Glazer 'player recruitment scam', just to sell shirts... what was behind it all?
Nothing excuses Ronaldo's petulant behavior or his slagging off of people at the club, especially to a 'swamp dweller' like Morgan, but there has never been any doubt he loved this club, so what has sparked this outrageous (even for him) behavior?
Is it simply that he can no longer 'cut the mustard', and it has fell to ETH to tell him that, or is there more to it?
Suppose we will have to wait for the memoirs (from everyone involved) to get their version of 'the truth'.
I have to admit I couldn't believe when it was announced, why in heaven's name would he want to come back to a struggling club? Was he just being recruited to provide a temporary back up, whilst Rashford got fit, Martial returned to form, or Greenwood was cleared of his problems?
Maybe I missed something in the reading/listening at the time, perhaps someone can clarify?
Did he offer to comeback or was he 'recruited' back into the fold, if so by who? Who were the prime movers, the club or Ronaldo? There was some suggestion SAF played a role, did he? If so, what did he say, did he promise something on behalf of the club on whose authority? What was Ole's role? Was this just another (now infamous) Glazer 'player recruitment scam', just to sell shirts... what was behind it all?
Nothing excuses Ronaldo's petulant behavior or his slagging off of people at the club, especially to a 'swamp dweller' like Morgan, but there has never been any doubt he loved this club, so what has sparked this outrageous (even for him) behavior?
Is it simply that he can no longer 'cut the mustard', and it has fell to ETH to tell him that, or is there more to it?
Suppose we will have to wait for the memoirs (from everyone involved) to get their version of 'the truth'.
I'd put him on gardening leave until he can find a move. I wouldn't have him anywhere near the club at the end of December or the beginning of January.
Don't want to be mean here, but for a man that has spent at least a decade in England, he's not quite ready for a 'speaking' job in English.
Also he really doesn't strike me as someone that would do that, isn't enough about him.
Hope not. There are enough pricks with an axe to grind against us in the media.
Simon Jordan makes some interesting points about the legal issues with sacking a player.
According to Rio he brokered a move between the two. I think that's half of the reason he's sticking by him now, because instigated this mess.
It's a tantrum not some complex web of secrets. When he isn't involved as much as he feels entitled to he protests, same as every act of protest since he joined.
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