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Cristiano Ronaldo: Set to leave by mutual agreement

Is Ronaldo justified to say that he “feels betrayed” by Manchester United?

  • Ronaldo should be not be allowed to play for United again

    Votes: 1,536 81.7%
  • He's always been a massive bellend

    Votes: 884 47.0%
  • Messi has always been the better player

    Votes: 574 30.5%
  • He should be begged to come back with double the salary and ten Haag should bow to his greatness

    Votes: 126 6.7%

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Greck

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What sticks out more is how poor we are at take-ons with the likes of Antony, Sancho, Garnacho and Rashford in the side.
Ronaldo is so far away from the inside forwards, he's running to the far post when he should be providing short options. The front 3 are reduced to wingers. He's basically playing the football from his first stint in England.
 

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Can you read body language and the fact English is not his main language ?

He said

“They didn’t believe me”

Then piers said “they didn’t believe you?”

And he said “they did but..*then he makes a clear facial gesture” before sayijrb”I’m never going to put football over my family health”

From the way he said it and his facial expressions about it it seems they granted him the time off but didn’t think he was telling the truth due to the transfer speculation at the time which they certainly believed was the real reason.

If you just read quotes without watching the interview you can’t see his clear body language when he says “they did but didn’t “ meaning they doubted him

Which he rightfully and correctly should find disrespectful after he literally had just lost a child at the time and now the other was sick.

I get you lot want too be right and he’s the villain right now so he’s automatically wrong. My only issue SO FAR with this interview personably is the timing.
This is just interpreting something to aid your own narrative. Firstly he was referring to one person that he rang - The president whover that is. Murtough? Woodward? Either way thats not the club. Thats one person. So even if that one person didnt believe him then yes its rude but its not the whole club. Secondly that person didnt say 'Thats bullshit. Your kids arnt sick.'. Now did he? So its just Ronaldos interpretation. Maybe The president had a million things on hs mind. Maybe he had his own personal issues. Could be a million reasons that maybe he want as warm and sympathetic as Ronaldo felt he should have been. But its all interpretation and the end of the day it was one person and the club gave him time off. If he through a hissy fit because he felt someone didnt believe him (Again felt that is not actually did anything) and then bashed the club on Piers Morgan over it then it says more about him
 
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the death of his son is just part of the interview but nothing against the club.

SAF and Bobby Charlton blocking in his car at Carrington so he couldn't leave early however...
 

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You can't be serious. Any employer would be a small bit suspicious of your motives in that situation. It's not a good look from Ronaldo claiming compassionate leave while his agent hawks him around Europe. However, they still gave him the time off and backed him up in statements to the media.

The only reason we have to believe that they didn't believe him is Ronaldo saying they believed me but they didn't believe me which is just a weird thing to say and not exactly conclusive.
I agree.. it’s odd. Surely a simple convo could have concluded that ‘look my daughter is seriously unwell in hospital’ and there would be no question of any alterior motive.

I actually think most players must communicate exclusively through intermediaries in order for things to get so easily lost in translation.
 

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No but that’s what I’m saying. If Ronaldo is going scorched earth then there is nothing Ten Hag can do to stop him. It’s not about handling a live grenade, it simply isn’t possible
Sorry but I don't get your point at all. I don't think anyone at the club wants to stop him. They wanted money for him in the Summer, now they just want rid without having to pay him off. Hopefully he's breached the terms of his contract and they can just tear up the contract.
 

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the death of his son is just part of the interview but nothing against the club.

SAF and Bobby Charlton blocking in his car at Carrington so he couldn't leave early however...
I haven't seen that bit. If he has ago at SAF or Bobby that's fighting talk where I come from. There isn't any coming back from that.
 

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So when he felt that someone at the club did not really believe in his extended bereavement leave, because of all the transfer speculation in the summer, he did not think "Hey, I'll ask my agent to tell the club that I am 100% committed and not going anywhere", but kept silent and then came out 3-4 months later to tell he was hurt on that day, to feckin Piers Morgan.
 

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This is just interpreting something to aid your own narrative. Firstly he was referring to one person that he rang - The president whover that is. Murtough? Woodward? Either way thats not the club. Thats one person. So even if that one person didnt believe him then yes its rude but its not the whole club. Secondly that person didnt say 'Thats bullshit. Your kids arnt sick.'. Now did he? So its just Ronaldos interpretation. Maybe The president had a million things on hs mind. Maybe he had his own personal issues. Could be a million reasons that maybe he want as warm and sympathetic as Ronaldo felt he should have been. Buts all interpretation and the end of the day it was one person and the club gave him time off. If he through a hissy fit because he felt someone didnt believe him (Again felt that is not actually did anything) and then bashed the club on Piers Morgan over it then it says more about him

Yeah, Who the feck is this President anyway?
 

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Sorry but I don't get your point at all. I don't think anyone at the club wants to stop him. They wanted money for him in the Summer, now they just want rid without having to pay him off. Hopefully he's breached the terms of his contract and they can just tear up the contract.
I was responding to that tweet but bacially this line

Do you honestly believe he’s handled this situation. Cristiano has done what he wants.

All Ten Hag can do is manage the fallout, nothing else is possible
 

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Lots of talk about Mendes having something up his sleeve for Ronaldo.

Thing is, I think it’s the complete opposite. This is what a Ronaldo will do when he has no options.
 

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Transfer speculations or not to think that he would “lie” or use his 3 month old child as an excuse to not come into work after he just lost one is outright disrespectful not just to Ronaldo but any player. As a father has every right to feel disrespected about someone doubting his child being sick.

Maybe any other time its “ok” but after he just lost a child? Really bad taste to doubt something very close to home
As he said himself, they didn’t challenge him or tell him they didn’t believe him.

Reading between the lines they maybe asked for a bit more detail about exactly what was wrong with the kid and whether there was any possibility he could maybe attend pre-season despite the kid being ill? I’m sure there are loads of footballers who crack on with their career despite having sick kids. And we don’t even know if this kid was particularly unwell.

All of which should be fair enough for a club that has so much invested in him. Throwing a tantrum about “disrespect” because of that is silly.
 

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I was responding to that tweet but bacially this line

Do you honestly believe he’s handled this situation. Cristiano has done what he wants.

All Ten Hag can do is manage the fallout, nothing else is possible
Oh I see. Well I think she's wrong because he has handled it very well and treated Ronaldo fairly imo. The effect has been to give Ronaldo enough rope to make him look like a spoiled brat. Him coming out and claiming Ten Hag disrespected him after he gave him a run in the side and made him captain when he was playing terribly is just bizzare.
 

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Everyones being played by Piers Morgan at this point, even Ronaldo. See the way that snide twat gives loaded questions and basically puts words into his mouth.

Then we get a Twitter post earlier saying "more new stunning revelations tonight at 10pm", 10 o clock rolls around and the "stunning revelation" is that it was the hardest time of Ronaldo's life. Jesus wept Morgan is an absolute weapon cnut.
 

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Wow. Throw the sh!t then follow it up with the sympathy card. This is UK tabloid journalism/TV at its finest lowest.
 

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So when he felt that someone at the club did not really believe in his extended bereavement leave, because of all the transfer speculation in the summer, he did not think "Hey, I'll ask my agent to tell the club that I am 100% committed and not going anywhere", but kept silent and then came out 3-4 months later to tell he was hurt on that day, to feckin Piers Morgan.
No purpose with analyzing this further. Really, there is — nothing — new in this interview. Nothing.

*ETH does not see him as his No 1, so Ronaldo doesn’t respect ETH. Well we knew that already, he walked of the pitch.

*Man Utd hasn’t developed since SAF. I have litterary heard daily claims stating this for a decade.

*Man Utd didn’t 100% believe the reason for him not showing up for camp after requesting to be sold. Like is this surprising? A big primadonna request a transfer and then calls up with an excuse for not showing up for pre-season — is it surprising if people wonder if it’s legit?

He missed the game against Fulham because he was “sick”. Was he sick? I am not 100% believing that. If he passes away tomorrow from some deadly sickness, it is what it is. I was wrong. Big deal.

*What else has he said? Some bantering with ex teammates.

We know two things for certain:
1. Ronaldo cannot handle being the second fiddle to Martial.
2. Nobody wants him. So he starts crying.
 

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Of course he was given the summer off. United would be looked at all kind of ways if they didn’t in a situation like that and that’s not good for business.

As most thing what’s said in public and what the feeling is in private is very different. In public they can paint the prettiest picture ever.

Politics is no different.
So disrespected he was given the summer off.

The really bad taste is him trying to weaponise his children. Having lost a child, I find that a terrible thing to do.
What’s it with this Graeme Souness level ‘I’m just second guessing but I take my guesses as pure fact’ attitude?Am I wrong in that one here simply choses to believe Ronaldo’s denied allegations as unverified fact, and another claims to know the psychology behind him talking about his kids?

Either one of you are Ronaldo or you’re both overestimating your psychic powers.
 

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Of course he was given the summer off. United would be looked at all kind of ways if they didn’t in a situation like that and that’s not good for business.

As most thing what’s said in public and what the feeling is in private is very different. In public they can paint the prettiest picture ever.

Politics is no different.
Then stop believing that Ronaldo wasn't dealt with properly. He was given the time he needed.

Actions speak louder than words. United did the right thing, Ronaldo can get stuffed.
 

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Anything interesting happen in tonight’s episode?
 

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Lots of talk about Mendes having something up his sleeve for Ronaldo.

Thing is, I think it’s the complete opposite. This is what a Ronaldo will do when he has no options.
I thought that this summer. Him essentially going on strike was code for he had an agreement to go to a new club which I would have been perfectly fine with, since that’s how that game goes.

So I was surprised when nothing happened. His legacy would have been untarnished if he did leave then. He would have had a good encore season for us. His immediate goals don’t match up with our longer term goals so let us mutually part etc.
 

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The numbers don't lie and they spell disaster for you, Cristiano. You add Ten Hag to the mix and your chances of winning drastic go down.
See, you got a 33 1/3 chance of winning with cristiano, but United got a 66 and 2/3 chance of winning, because Ten Hag KNOWS cristiano aint shit he's not even gonna try!
I read both of these in Big Pappa Pumps voice
 

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He'd have to be an utterly spineless one to think keeping him should be an option
 

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I thought that this summer. Him essentially going on strike was code for he had an agreement to go to a new club which I would have been perfectly fine with, since that’s how that game goes.

So I was surprised when nothing happened. His legacy would have been untarnished if he did leave then. He would have had a good encore season for us. His immediate goals don’t match up with our longer term goals so let us mutually part etc.
Yeah, and like, sometimes I am a bit surprised honestly by how Ronaldo is viewed. I’ve followed him closely almost his entire career. From his first game for us.

How can anyone be surprised? For good and for bad, this is who he is. For good and for bad. Ronaldinho’s prime career was what 6 years? Ronaldo’s prime career was what, 10-12 years? Romário’s prime career was about the same. Rooney’s prime career was what 10-12 years. Maradonna’s prime lasted what, 8-10 years.

Ronaldo has played at the highest level for 19 years. Nineteen effin years. No real dip.

He will never stop fighting. Fading away after being benched in favor of Martial at a non-CL team won’t do it. He knows what he is doing, and he will accept the challenge. Nobody believes in him, nobody wants him, he will make sure everyone is aware of it — and aim to turn it around. He would play for 10 more years if he could.

But facts are, there will be an end of road for Christiano Ronaldo too. Nobody is immortal. His end could come soon, or he could pull it off and rescue his career. But this is how he works. He won’t “accept it”. He have never accepted anything. For good and for bad. Why are we surprised?

For me, he will always be a legend. But I can honestly say that I have never liked him. I’ve been astonished by him, but he has never been likable. Or perhaps his first year I liked him. But its always him against the world, him before his team. I really enjoy having experienced his career, but he is what he is and what he always have been.
 
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Poor CR7. Put yourself in the hands of the devil. Met a manager with the balls to stand up to you. Poor CR7. Benzema. Garnacho. Other people getting more attention. Poor, irrelevant baby. Piers does not respect you. He just wants your clicks.
 

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He'd have to be an utterly spineless one to think keeping him should be an option
We still need to pay him out for remainder of the season, if we kick him out. Unless the bellend actually sticks to his "I don't care if they throw me out" statement and foregoes his salary.
 
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